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landiematt
9th July 2014, 07:23 PM
Well spent the arvo playing with new 110 landie. Pulled starter and cleaned up internals and refitted. Started well after I pumped up fuel primer. Bled the clutch after stripping the master and slave cylinders and rebuilt them. Drove car around yard, it drove well. Very happy with the new buy. Now I need to wait till the weekend to clean it up, inside and out.
Matt

86 shed
9th July 2014, 08:29 PM
Well, he who has the most Isuzus wins !!!She looks good, even when dirty.Haven't driven the Perentie for days, except for turning it round on the driveway so SWMBO can take it to work. Grandbabies are visiting so I'm driving "her" D4 (part of the deal for me to buy the Isuzu) so I'm not having to go through landie withdrawal but I miss the silly grin I wear in the Perentie. SWMBO and I are taking the kids back to Newcastle tomorrow, so then I can have my own Landie back. You enjoy your new truck. Got to go, babies are out of the bath dripping on my office floor! Michael.:)

steveG
9th July 2014, 09:27 PM
That was quick Matt - good work.

I've seen starter contact kits from the US on ebay if yours are really tired. When I did mine a few years back I stripped it and took it in to Ashdown Ingram and got some that were close, and a new set of brushes. Had to file the contact plate a bit to get it to fit, but was pretty close.
From memory the brushes were brazed on, and I couldn't shift them with a soldering iron. Cut them off and soldered the new ones on and all has been happy since.

Steve

Dave_S
10th July 2014, 10:18 AM
Nicely done Matt. Remember, without photos it never happened :D

landiematt
10th July 2014, 06:28 PM
Ok couldn't wait till weekend, washed inside and out the ute. It's by no means shiny but I got the green moss or whatever it was off. Steve I think the main fault with the starter was a lack of good earth to the engine. When I pulled the starter down it was really in good condition and I only cleaned it up because I had it in pieces. But thanks for the info I will save that for the day it's required.
Matt

steveG
10th July 2014, 06:46 PM
Earths are a common issue. It's a good idea to have a couple of earth straps from engine/trans to chassis, one across the LH engine mount and one from the transfer to chassis.

Steve

landiematt
10th July 2014, 07:10 PM
Earths are a common issue. It's a good idea to have a couple of earth straps from engine/trans to chassis, one across the LH engine mount and one from the transfer to chassis.

Steve

Thanks mate. Will make some at work tomorrow and fit them up.
Matt

lokka
10th July 2014, 09:32 PM
Best thing I ever did was run a good heavy earth wire from the battery to the side of the gearbox
Never had another starting drama after that I can walk out and the thing will fire to life quicker than my TDI even if it has sat for 3 months :cool:

Dave_S
11th July 2014, 09:13 AM
Bad earths have been a problem on just about every Land Rover I've ever owned. Of course, once you sort that out the juice starts to flow properly and the old wires start catching fire :o

The wiring loom that runs through the chassis to the back is often dodgy, and most of us here have had the pleasure of pulling out a few hundred feet of dodgy additional wiring added over the years. Then again, what's there isn't complicated and is easily sorted with a bit of patience. Have fun!

landiematt
12th July 2014, 12:36 PM
You guys were spot on. The earth on the engine mount to chassis was as good as gone. Fitted new earth from battery to transfer case as steveG and lokka said and starts like a new one. Thanks guys
Matt
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landiematt
19th July 2014, 05:35 PM
What voltage is the glow plugs circuit? I checked them and only got 9 volts. When starting how does the glow system work, I turn the key and it doesn't glow until just before start. Not at on position like my Defender is, that correct?

steveG
19th July 2014, 08:36 PM
What voltage is the glow plugs circuit? I checked them and only got 9 volts. When starting how does the glow system work, I turn the key and it doesn't glow until just before start. Not at on position like my Defender is, that correct?

They are straight off the start switch according to the wiring diagram. The 4 plugs are in parallel with a bus bar across them, so all get 12v.
They draw a fair bit of current, so I'm guessing if you got 9v that you measured the voltage with the plugs connected and turned on - so were seeing a bit of voltage drop.

I'm not 100% sure how they work in terms of turning them on. Is there a half position between engine run and crank that you can hold the key at?
300tdi's had a temperature sensitive glow plug timer, so much more advanced than the Isuzu. I'm sure later engines will also be smart control.
The the Isuzu doesn't need glowing anyway unless it gets REALLY cold. Mine have never been connected.

Steve

landiematt
19th July 2014, 08:49 PM
Thanks steveG. You are correct that's how I was checking them. Just didn't expect to see that kind of voltage drop. That is how I worked out the glow switch worked just different to Defender so checking. Thanks for the clarification.
Matt.

uninformed
28th July 2014, 02:20 PM
It's a peice of crap that is only going to cost you money and cause you grief. But being the wonderful human being I am, ill come take it away for you.

:D

landiematt
30th July 2014, 06:30 PM
Ha ha sure you will Serg. Turns out there are a few thoughtful people willing to "help" me out of my situation.
Matt