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Themadmob
15th July 2014, 08:43 AM
Hi All

I want to replace all my brake pipes and want to know if the Rimmer Bros product from the UK is what I should be ordering, or does anyone know of another supplier who can supply me the full brake pipe kit all the way from the brakes to the master cylinder

I have a 1977 S3 SWB RHD 2.25 Petrol Landy

Thanks

Craig

debruiser
15th July 2014, 11:25 AM
i've been looking at:
Automec Copper Nickel Brake Line KIT FOR Land Rover Series 3 SWB RHD Dual TO1980 | eBay

obviously for my swb.... but he has different kits.

Lotz-A-Landies
15th July 2014, 01:26 PM
Be aware that in Australia a roadworthy inspector may reject copper or copper nickel brake pipes.

Themadmob
15th July 2014, 02:33 PM
Hi ... Thanks guys

The Automac Brake kits are copper .... So I am assuming they should do the trick ?

incisor
15th July 2014, 02:37 PM
got copper nickel on mine and you would be hard pressed to pick it wasnt steel looking at it...

and it wasnt picked up on at all.

Homestar
15th July 2014, 03:06 PM
Hi ... Thanks guys



The Automac Brake kits are copper .... So I am assuming they should do the trick ?


No, straight copper is out. The copper/nickel alloy ones are the go. There has been some debate about this recently on another thread but I think the copper nickel alloy is okay.

Themadmob
15th July 2014, 03:11 PM
Great , Thanks, Gotta love the help on the Forum :-)

Lotz-A-Landies
15th July 2014, 03:11 PM
got copper nickel on mine and you would be hard pressed to pick it wasnt steel looking at it...

and it wasnt picked up on at all.I purchased a roll of Copper-Nickel tube branded as brake tube from my local BrakePro in Nowra, however since that time I was informed by a NSW Blue Slip Inspector that any form of copper is not acceptable.

Whether its after a particular date I'm not sure. It's just a warning that there may be problems.

For the defender I'm going to play it safe and purchase lengths of bundy tube for the job.

Themadmob
15th July 2014, 03:17 PM
what about the "ends"? screw threads ... can you purchase them locally as well?

Lotz-A-Landies
15th July 2014, 03:57 PM
Yes you can buy them from most specialist brake services.

Be aware that most modern Land Rovers will have metric flare nuts, while most SIII will have UNF so be carefull the new ones match the ones you are removing.

Also Land Rovers use a double flare on the brake pipe.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/689.jpg

Homestar
15th July 2014, 03:59 PM
Yes, you can get all the threaded bits from your local brake centre, but you could reuse your old ones and use new line. You'd just need a double flaring tool, which aren't expensive from ebay.

The copper nickel bends really nicely, and you don't need tools to bend it, whereas you would by using steel.

I'll be needing to do this all very soon on Cam's series 3, so I'll be chatting to a Vicroads approved engineer, and my local mechanic who does my road worthies before I buy anything. I'm hoping the copper nickel will pass as its heaps easier to work with.

Themadmob
15th July 2014, 08:54 PM
Thanks .. please let me know what your contact say about copper nickel vs steel

Themadmob
15th July 2014, 09:02 PM
Thanks Lotz a Landies

chazza
16th July 2014, 04:19 PM
The copper nickel bends really nicely, and you don't need tools to bend it, whereas you would by using steel.



Steel bundy tube can be bent easily by hand, except for tight curves where a bender will be needed but these are cheap as well,

Cheers Charlie

Homestar
16th July 2014, 07:51 PM
Steel bundy tube can be bent easily by hand, except for tight curves where a bender will be needed but these are cheap as well,

Cheers Charlie

Yep, my point exactly.

gromit
16th July 2014, 10:48 PM
Managed some tight bends with steel pipe by hand, found the bender too fiddly and ended up with the bend in the wrong position (probably needed some practice.....).

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/55.jpg (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/cradley/media/Series%201%20with%20Welder/DSCF3456_zpsdde951b5.jpg.html)


Used the Kunifer (copper/nickel) in the UK with brass tube nuts & flare nuts for corrosion resistance. Problem here is.....if they pick up that it's not steel how do you 'prove' what the material actually is ?
As already mentioned, if the colour is close to that of plated steel then it probably won't get picked up anyway.

Kunifer is very popular in the UK because of the rock salt used to de-ice the roads which causes a lot of corrosion problems. There are alternatives but the councils use rock salt because it's cheap.
Plated steel would last considerably longer in our climate.


Colin

Themadmob
17th July 2014, 07:07 AM
Thanks Colin

Great work.... I thought it would be easy to see what brake linings are acceptable in Australia .. I am battling to get a real answer, and the forum seems uncertain as well ????

Themadmob
17th July 2014, 07:18 AM
Colin, what flaring tool do you use?

gromit
17th July 2014, 05:59 PM
Colin, what flaring tool do you use?

Mine is an old metric Snap-On but works OK on imperial.
It does the job and I can't justify a better one, even to myself.


Colin