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LandyAndy
13th August 2014, 08:50 PM
I put the D4 in sport mode in the city yesterday and kept it there.
No hard throttle yet,it did seem to go well and the numbers on the average fuel consumption were falling on roads that were 70/80kmh limited despite being in traffic:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:: cool::cool:.
Do others use sport and if so when/why all new to this.
I did use the Terrortory Turbo in sport last time in the city,it also made for better economy(it has the same 6 speed auto as the early D4).
Andrew

Greatsouthernland
13th August 2014, 09:35 PM
I put the D4 in sport mode in the city yesterday and kept it there.
No hard throttle yet,it did seem to go well and the numbers on the average fuel consumption were falling on roads that were 70/80kmh limited despite being in traffic:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:: cool::cool:.
Do others use sport and if so when/why all new to this.
I did use the Terrortory Turbo in sport last time in the city,it also made for better economy(it has the same 6 speed auto as the early D4).
Andrew

Yep, I use it up hills to hold gear longer and on windy roads for the same reason giving smoother acceleration response round the corners and better braking assisted by engine. Similarly down hill it won't change up as early allowing for a bit of brake assist. Also shifts down quicker when braking, I feel.

You're loving it aren't you Landy :)

tiddy
13th August 2014, 10:21 PM
I must admit I use sport mode quite often, mainly when Im feeling bored driving an auto. I enjoy it too especially on the down shifts..lol

wbowner
14th August 2014, 07:21 AM
I tried it recently while towing my van.

It is hard to compare fuel usage as I did not drive over the same area in sport and non sport mode but I did get better fuel consumption in S mode.

I will try it again and see. I used s mode with auto.

Rich

BMKal
14th August 2014, 07:33 AM
I used mine in Sport mode in Victoria last year when travelling around the Otways. Definitely an advantage in hilly country. In really steep stuff, particularly on dirt, I go one step further and use the command shift, mainly on steep descents. Came in very handy on a steep, wet dirt track across the centre of Bruny Island, which could have proven "interesting" had I just left it in normal "auto" mode. Wasn't so steep that I had to use HDC though.

We went down one track onto a small beach where HDC was used. SWMBO was worried that we wouldn't get back out of there - the D4 did it easy. :D

Greatsouthernland
14th August 2014, 07:37 AM
Also handy during 'running in' where you aren't supposed to labour the motor and should vary the speed/revs ;)

nat_89
14th August 2014, 07:50 AM
I'm probably like tiddy just use it when playing around but living our west and traveling most trips 200kms plus each way and a town of 3000ppl hardly any where to use it haha. I thought it was meant to make it change gears higher revs, I did find it drops down as your slowing down though nice fun. Also use it when going down a steep range on my way to Mackay just to use engine braking by holding it in 2nd or 3rd gear.

But i just ran my engine in the way I would normally drive the car no babying it.

Redback
14th August 2014, 08:03 AM
I use sport mode when towing, also use it to and from work on the hilly stuff, knock it over to sport when on downhills, it drops back a gear and you don't need to brake as much, then on the up hill it holds the gear longer, once back to the flat stuff, I go back to normal.

Baz.

tiddy
14th August 2014, 08:56 AM
But i just ran my engine in the way I would normally drive the car no babying it.[/QUOTE]

Im with you there Nat, whilst I didn't abuse it, I certainly run it fairly hard over varying speeds and rev range. I remember when we got it, both the dealer & the service guy mentioned not to baby it as you need to ensure both turbo's are made to work so they both run & wear in effectively together.

So I did and it hauls the mail along very well indeed.

Fatso
14th August 2014, 09:11 AM
I use it in the metro area , and stop start traffic , towing camper in hilly windy roads .

Greatsouthernland
14th August 2014, 09:23 AM
But i just ran my engine in the way I would normally drive the car no babying it.


Im with you there Nat, whilst I didn't abuse it, I certainly run it fairly hard over varying speeds and rev range. I remember when we got it, both the dealer & the service guy mentioned not to baby it as you need to ensure both turbo's are made to work so they both run & wear in effectively together.

So I did and it hauls the mail along very well indeed.

I'm with both you guys on this, the sport mode helped keep the revs higher. It does say in the manual not to labour the engine during first 4000km (as well as avoid towing).

I found on some occasions in normal sedate 'D' mode, the downshift was slow in coming and I'd blip the throttle to force it some times, but 'S' (serious driving :D mode) ensured the power plant and gearbox were in perfect sync ready for twin turbo torque takeoff ... Or engine assisted anchors out brake assit.

Sometimes I'd forget (still do) that I'm in 2500kg of metal with a Diesel engine :burnrubber: I'm sure this vehicle has more poke than my old Calais with its 357 Gen III :unsure:
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101RRS
14th August 2014, 09:29 AM
My car is remapped and in a straight out drag race my car actually accelerates to 100kph quicker in Drive. But for normal driving around town and when towing I also find Sport is more responsive through the gears. On the open road at the speed limit is is a bit annoying as it takes a long while to get into 6th but then you do not need Sport unless hill climbing so it is easy enough to slot back into Drive.

Garry

nat_89
14th August 2014, 11:24 AM
But i just ran my engine in the way I would normally drive the car no babying it.

Im with you there Nat, whilst I didn't abuse it, I certainly run it fairly hard over varying speeds and rev range. I remember when we got it, both the dealer & the service guy mentioned not to baby it as you need to ensure both turbo's are made to work so they both run & wear in effectively together.

So I did and it hauls the mail along very well indeed.[/QUOTE]

Yeah i didn't flog it when i got it but certainly gave it plenty of quick take off and didn't use cruise for the first 1500kms and did use the paddles a bit to drop back and hold gears driving home and so forth.

But bloody hell not using cruise was the hardest thing I've done for a while haha so hard. Most of my drives are usually 200kms + each way unless i go to work but usually take the old car to work which is only 25kms each way.

Mungus
14th August 2014, 05:50 PM
Similar to most comments so far, I am using it to vary revs for running in. I still use cruise though and shift down a gear or two (or four).


What I find sport mode most useful for is in city driving and highway traffic, keeping a slightly higher rev/lower gear for longer and have found hitting the down change paddle drops a few gears to have you instantly ready for lane changes etc... In other words to overcome the throttle response delay.

LandyAndy
14th August 2014, 07:59 PM
I was told not to baby it or I wont get economy.
Have worked it well on overtaking lanes,I must admit I was wondering if buying a baby 3.0lt would be an issue.NAH,she kills Black Betty on Whorespowers:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::c ool::cool:
YEP I LOVE IT;););););)
Andrew

nat_89
15th August 2014, 06:54 AM
I was told not to baby it or I wont get economy.
Have worked it well on overtaking lanes,I must admit I was wondering if buying a baby 3.0lt would be an issue.NAH,she kills Black Betty on Whorespowers:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::c ool::cool:
YEP I LOVE IT;););););)
Andrew

Where's your pic of it!?!?!

Jimlr
15th August 2014, 12:01 PM
How long are we doing 'running in' / 'not babying it' for?

nat_89
15th August 2014, 12:20 PM
I always thought 1000kms but some people are saying 4000kms, just give it a good run in from the start no babying it and it will be good.

TerryO
16th August 2014, 06:57 AM
It was always drummed into me to run a race engine in properly you let it use its mid range rather than rev it where ever possible and you kept revs capped and gradually built them up with time. Using midrange (grunt, Torque ) especially if going up hills worked best to help in the run in process. That supposedly makes the engine bed in its rings better as the engine is under load. Hi revs before its run in don't put the same pressures on the engine and supposedly can actually work in reverse and see the rings not bed in properly.

However this is how we were told to run in race engines, having said that I was told by the engine builders that the same principle applies for any engine whether it be a race or street engine.

Might be best if you really want to know to get expert advice rather than listening to all of us armchair experts on forums, after all you only get the chance to run the engine in your new pride and joy in once properly.

Greatsouthernland
16th August 2014, 09:38 AM
It says 3000km (not 4 like I wrote earlier oops) in the owners handbook.

No Prize for finding which page :D ... 183 :whistling::BigThumb: :rulez: :rolleyes:

Greatsouthernland
16th August 2014, 08:51 PM
Next page.

discotwinturbo
16th August 2014, 09:04 PM
It says 3000km (not 4 like I wrote earlier oops) in the owners handbook. No Prize for finding which page :D ... 183 :whistling::BigThumb: :rulez: :rolleyes:

Bugger.....maximise speed during run in is only 170kph ;-)

Brett.....

Greatsouthernland
16th August 2014, 09:26 PM
Bugger.....maximise speed during run in is only 170kph ;-)

Brett.....

Which is OK cos, it says this can be gradually increased after the first 2000km :D

But, I heard a rumour that it's speed limited to 180kph.

Anyone in the NT at the moment that can test that theory/rumour? :wasntme: carefully and in the unrestricted speed zone, that was reinstated just for this reason ... Apparently :angel: :eek: :cool:
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nat_89
17th August 2014, 09:29 AM
I took mine up to 185km on a back road and it wasn't limiting i backed off at that but it was sitting at 2700rpm in 8th just cruising along, dunno if anyone else has gone faster haha.

sheerluck
17th August 2014, 09:34 AM
I took mine up to 185km on a back road and it wasn't limiting i backed off at that but it was sitting at 2700rpm in 8th just cruising along, dunno if anyone else has gone faster haha.

Paging Tombie, come in Tombie.

LandyAndy
17th August 2014, 10:51 AM
I have seen 140 come up very easily when overtaking road-trains,seems to have plenty in reserve.
Andrew

Greatsouthernland
17th August 2014, 12:52 PM
I took mine up to 185km on a back road and it wasn't limiting i backed off at that but it was sitting at 2700rpm in 8th just cruising along, dunno if anyone else has gone faster haha.

Good one Nat :eek: I wasn't gonna mention anything like that, except where it's legal I.e. NT ... Never know who's reading the 'metadata' :ninja:

But I've noticed (been told ;) ) how quickly 150 pops up and there's STACKS in reserve, and that's going up hill with a full load :o so I imagine if there is no limiter, they can rip past 200, perhaps off the dial?

Greatsouthernland
17th August 2014, 12:55 PM
I have seen 140 come up very easily when overtaking road-trains,seems to have plenty in reserve.
Andrew

Easy there big fella :D tempting isn't it? I've still got the radar detector I bought living in WA, I reckon you'll need one if you don't already have one. :cool:

You must have run it in by now?

nat_89
17th August 2014, 02:12 PM
Good one Nat :eek: I wasn't gonna mention anything like that, except where it's legal I.e. NT ... Never know who's reading the 'metadata' :ninja:

But I've noticed (been told ;) ) how quickly 150 pops up and there's STACKS in reserve, and that's going up hill with a full load :o so I imagine if there is no limiter, they can rip past 200, perhaps off the dial?

Oh it was when i went for a quick trip to the NT so all good haha, but yeah i dunno i thought they were limited aswell!!

Ferret
17th August 2014, 06:22 PM
Sport mode ~ bah. Try sand mode at the lights :p

LandyAndy
17th August 2014, 06:38 PM
Easy there big fella :D tempting isn't it? I've still got the radar detector I bought living in WA, I reckon you'll need one if you don't already have one. :cool:

You must have run it in by now?

Havent gone past 700km yet;);););););)
Andrew

nat_89
17th August 2014, 06:51 PM
Havent gone past 700km yet;);););););)
Andrew

700kms :eek: gah my trip home from the dealer to my place was 900kms haha

Basil135
17th August 2014, 07:31 PM
700kms :eek: gah my trip home from the dealer to my place was 900kms haha

Hehe... I managed to make the 850 km drive home from the dealer last 1100 km :D


And it was only cause it had been a very long day, that there wern't a few more added on too...:cool:

LandyAndy
17th August 2014, 07:34 PM
700kms :eek: gah my trip home from the dealer to my place was 900kms haha
664km to be precise;);););)
Andrew

JamesH
17th August 2014, 08:05 PM
I have seen 140 come up very easily when overtaking road-trains,seems to have plenty in reserve.
Andrew


Thinking back I don't think I've overtaken without hitting at least 130. You apply a bit of Rossi, pull out and all of a sudden yre at 130 and the poor nomads towing their van are probably thinking "How rude!" as I disappear over the horizon. Embarrassing sometimes.

Greatsouthernland
17th August 2014, 10:16 PM
Excuse this post as it strays a bit off the topic, but as most are D4 pilots - just a heads up on wheel nut re torque.

If you haven't already checked them, probably wouldn't hurt. I had that interesting feeling today at about 100, :eek: was that a bit of deformed bitumen or did one of my wheels feel loose? :o

A quick turn of all the nuts and surprisingly the front wheels each allowed me to turn a couple of nuts about 20-30 degrees. 5000km clocked.

LHS rear wheel had a couple move too. :(

Had a microsecond where the Nav screen flickered and the radio volume jumped too, less than a second, happened when slowing down from 60 to turn left, checked wiring and battery clamp bolts seemed a bit loose :(
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nat_89
18th August 2014, 08:24 AM
664km to be precise;);););)
Andrew


Hehe... I managed to make the 850 km drive home from the dealer last 1100 km :D


And it was only cause it had been a very long day, that there wern't a few more added on too...:cool:

Haha i wish i could keep the kms down on mine at 24000kms since 1st February just keep racking up so quick haha mind you its good to drive!!

LandyAndy
18th August 2014, 07:34 PM
Black Betty has done just under 10000ks a year in the time Ive owned her.
When Snow White is 5 years old,she should be around 50000km,if that.Will be easy to cover the baloon payment if I decide to renew to another newbie;);););););)
Andrew