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TheStig
18th August 2014, 05:17 PM
Hi all
Just wondering what everyone's fuel economy is and what Motor you have and also what fuel economy you get while towing and how much weight you tow..
Cheers :)
noyakfat
18th August 2014, 07:25 PM
Hi mate,
I have a 110 MY2014 5-seat wagon with the 2.2L Tdci. Just under 6,000 km on the clock and total average fuel economy is about 10.8 L / 100 km. This includes daily drive to work, relatively limited highway travel so far, plus several off road trips and a few long hours of low range.
A week ago we did a drive down to Thredbo and back, pretty much all bitumen, returning 10.08 L / 100 km.
No towing yet.
Cheers,
Nige
jasonedu
18th August 2014, 08:48 PM
I drive for economy and get less than 10l / 100km. This is a 2.4 130 with an alloy canopy, roof tent and bullbar. Highway or around town (Canberra) I get the same.
I got 15l when towing a fully loaded troopy with a camprite trailer.
TroyFenda
18th August 2014, 08:58 PM
I have an '09 Defender 110 with the 2.4L engine fitted with mud tyres on factory allows and an ARB heavy duty roof rack.
When I ferried her back from FNQ on the back highways I averaged 9.5-10L/100kms whilst cruising comfortably at 100km/hr. Up the speed to 120km/hr and the consumption increases quite a bit to around 12-13L/100kms (the old drag increase exponentially).
With the new roof rack permanently fitted the consumption has increased a little but not by a huge amount.
I have a long distance heavy tow in the next month so I could provide a better figure after that.
JDNSW
19th August 2014, 06:11 AM
4BD1 engine, County wagon. Over the last 500,000km I have kept full fuel records, and consumption has varied 10.5 - 11.5 l/100km mostly pretty close to eleven, regardless of the type of driving or towing up to two tonnes. The only thing that seems to increase it is sustained driving over 110kph (which does not happen very often).
John
BilboBoggles
19th August 2014, 12:55 PM
Td5 Defender 110. 250,000k's of records. Averages about 10-12l/100k. Only factor that changes this is who is driving. If I drive - 12l. If my wife drives 10ks. Perhaps I drive it a little harder than she does.
Just had it chipped/modded so it now drives better than my old V8. Wow... but fuel consumption has gone up somewhat - 13l when I drive and 10 when the wife drives it. But I can get air over some of the bumpy roads out the back of our place and frankly that extra 1-2 l/100 is worth it....
when towing our camper trailer ~1.5tons it still got around 11.5 l/100k's which is not too bad really.
I also have a 2.2 Puma, and that's doing about 11.8l/100k on average.
rocket scientist
19th August 2014, 01:35 PM
4BD1 engine, County wagon. Over the last 500,000km I have kept full fuel records, and consumption has varied 10.5 - 11.5 l/100km mostly pretty close to eleven, regardless of the type of driving or towing up to two tonnes. The only thing that seems to increase it is sustained driving over 110kph (which does not happen very often).
John
Much the same John.
4BD1 with 650,000 on clock, consistently getting 10l/100km, as long as I keep the pressure off the right foot. :D
Pete.
TheStig
19th August 2014, 01:43 PM
Thanks everyone!!
I have a td5 110 that has been chipped and modded also.
I get about 10-12litres Also but while I have been towing about 2 tonne with the back half loaded I have been getting about 14.5litres
debruiser
19th August 2014, 03:48 PM
I have a 2013 D90 bog standard nearly 30 000km. Empty I get about 10-11L/100km highway empty. With my 1ish tonne camper about 13L/100km. With 3 people, roof bars and a series roof on top, car trailer with a SWB series (filled with spare parts) on that I got closer to 18L/100km but I wasn't being especially kind either.
Orkney 90
19th August 2014, 07:22 PM
Mine is also a stock-standard 2013 Defender 90, and my daily driver. My average fuel usage is 8.7L/100kms. I have always kept records of my fuel usage over many years for different cars. Admittedly I am light footed and I don't thrash my cars. Over the years I believe I've saved quite a fair amount of money in fuel savings.
debruiser
19th August 2014, 07:31 PM
Mine is also a stock-standard 2013 Defender 90, and my daily driver. My average fuel usage is 8.7L/100kms. I have always kept records of my fuel usage over many years for different cars. Admittedly I am light footed and I don't thrash my cars. Over the years I believe I've saved quite a fair amount of money in fuel savings.
WHAT!!!! :eek2::eek2: 8.7!!! that's awesome. Do you only drive downhill? I'm impressed. I wish I got that.... do you drive up to 2000rpm or 2000-3000rpm? in general...
Orkney 90
19th August 2014, 07:40 PM
^ Hahaha. All down hill...should be coming out in China soon! But seriously, I generally change the gears between 1800rpm and 2300ish depending on the situation. I think the difference is that I try to take off smoothly and lightly on the accelerator. I was once told that the accelerator is like a tap. Open a tap a little and you get a trickle. Open it more and you get a gushing flow.
The best I've managed to get is 8.2L/100kms. The very worst was mid 9's. And this with an engine that is still tight. I have about 15000kms on the car at present.
Lagerfan
19th August 2014, 07:41 PM
WHAT!!!! :eek2::eek2: 8.7!!! that's awesome.
Yep, impressive figures! We get around 11.5l/100km out of our MY13 90 but have a bullbar, rear bar, roof rack and MTs, each of which add about 0.5l I'm told.
jboot51
19th August 2014, 07:50 PM
95 defender 130 300tdi 220K kms
10.52 l/100km
debruiser
20th August 2014, 06:36 AM
^ Hahaha. All down hill...should be coming out in China soon! But seriously, I generally change the gears between 1800rpm and 2300ish depending on the situation. I think the difference is that I try to take off smoothly and lightly on the accelerator. I was once told that the accelerator is like a tap. Open a tap a little and you get a trickle. Open it more and you get a gushing flow.
The best I've managed to get is 8.2L/100kms. The very worst was mid 9's. And this with an engine that is still tight. I have about 15000kms on the car at present.
:D Post some pics of your trip :D
That is about where I change gears too, and I drive around at 60km/hr in 5th to keep revs down a bit while cruising around. Maybe my tap has a leak :D :wasntme: Or it's my bull bar, snorkel, and checker plate slowing me down.
Orkney 90
20th August 2014, 04:15 PM
It has to be the checker-plate. Really disrupts the smooth, flowing aerodynamics of the Defender. Checker-plate...instrument of the devil.
DoAll
20th August 2014, 05:07 PM
Just returned from a weekend on straddy Is, 200kms on road, 100 kms off road, returned a overall consumption of 10.2 l/100km ,I'm extremely happy with that.
1996 defender 130, 300tdi , 4HP22 auto, 300000kms +, bullbar, racks, LR tank = 2400 Kgs + camping gear, driven like my grandma would .
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AndyG
20th August 2014, 05:16 PM
Wouldn't you love to post these figures on a Cruiser forum :D
dromader driver
20th August 2014, 06:04 PM
9.5l/100km around town and about 10 on a trip. 94 TDI with high speed streamlined chequerplate steel tray. best range is at around 90-95 km/hr on a Brisbane - Sydney trip. Skinny's definitely save fuel.
RoboDouche
21st August 2014, 08:21 AM
I've got an 09 2.4 110.
I'm getting 9.6 liters per 100k's. I tow about a ton sometimes and I still get under 10.
I've got the big ****ty center muffler and big ****ty hot CAT removed.
Getting rid of them both made a big difference and was well worth it. Local exhaust shop made me a dump pipe replacing the CAT for $120 and I just bought the terrifirma straight through pipe to replace the muffler from eBay. She's still really quiet.
TheStig
21st August 2014, 11:57 AM
I've got an 09 2.4 110.
I'm getting 9.6 liters per 100k's. I tow about a ton sometimes and I still get under 10.
I've got the big ****ty center muffler and big ****ty hot CAT removed.
Getting rid of them both made a big difference and was well worth it. Local exhaust shop made me a dump pipe replacing the CAT for $120 and I just bought the terrifirma straight through pipe to replace the muffler from eBay. She's still really quiet.
I just bought the terrifirma straight through pipe off of eBay as well just waiting to it to arrive :)
Chops
21st August 2014, 08:20 PM
These are good figures for the 2.4.
Mine was doing around the 10l/100 when first purchased, but when the first ECU was replaced, it went up to about 12l/100, now with its second ECU, its started off at about 14l/100, but is slowly,,,, very slowly, coming back down again. We'll see where it ends up in a couple of weeks.
I'm no slouch behind the wheel in the city traffic, so I dont expect it to be really ecconomical.
wizzid
31st August 2014, 10:38 AM
On a recent run from New Norfolk Tas. to Bega NSW. Both vehicles travelled the same route together.
130 Big Cab 300tdi Ex Telstra over a weigh bridge 2.6 tonne empty. Plus approx 700 kg tools and scaffolding so all up 3.3 tonne, 11.23 ltrs /100k.
1985 110, 100% original (still has working Boge leveller) 3.5 V8, LT95 approx. 200 kg gear. All up weight I guess about 2.1 tonne, 14.9 ltrs/100k.
The 110 had the carbys over hauled, the motor tuned as well as "an over the pit inspection" for road a worthy and rego before the trip. It was running sweet.
The 300tdi would out pull the 110 (just) on the flat and small inclines, however on big long 2nd gear climbs the 110 would pull away into the distance.
The County is way quieter at 100kph and a nicer drive than the 130. The 130 has been extensively fitted out with lead based sound proofing material.
Went to Tas. for work (not to buy another car) saw the old County for sale, it was too original to pass up.
Cheers Pat.
windsock
1st September 2014, 05:40 AM
1984 110 cab/chassis with a retrofitted HCPU with a Nissan LD28 transplant :D for the 2.25 petrol that was in it. 235/85-16 maxxis bighorns on D1 rims and a std LT77 coupled to a 1.4 transfer box in place of the 1.6 it came with. I get 9l/100km if driving like nana, and 10-12l/100km if maintaining open road speed (100kph). It is a 110 HCPU so no trailer usually required but under a full load in the back (camping or firewood) I generally get around 12-14l/100km.
Glad to be getting similar figures to new tech from old tech.
All figures are without a headwind :eek:
Rustbucket
2nd September 2014, 02:08 PM
My 2010 110 sw 2.4 has been getting pretty consistently high 10s to low 11s per 100kms with full size steel roofrack(heavy). A couple of weeks ago I took it off for slight modification. Since having it off the fuel consumption has dropped to low/mid 9s per 100 kms
TheStig
1st December 2014, 11:47 AM
Is it better to struggle in a higher gear or rev higher in a lower gear ?? ( while towing ie going up some hills and what not ...) cheers
For fuel economy
AndyG
1st December 2014, 12:37 PM
I would say bad, because if your struggling, your outside your optimal torque band, and various components are being stressed unnecessarily. But that's a lay mans opinion.
lightwing
1st December 2014, 01:35 PM
My 2009 110. best 8.4, worst 11.2 towing trailer with two motorcycles and a load of heavy tools etc. plus loaded to max inside.
average with light or no load is around 9.5.
I had Bruce Davis remap it but as he put it with a mild remap.
DiscoMick
1st December 2014, 02:21 PM
Just worked out the economy on my first full 110 litre tank since buying the Defender and it came out at 9.2 l/100km.
I filled up at Grafton and drove to Brisbane and then around the city so it was mostly highway and motorway. I'm very happy with that. Its certainly good for such a large vehicle considering the wife's little Yaris, which looks like a mini car beside the Defender, is averaging 7.0 l/100kms.
Incidentally, I downloaded a very simple free app called Fuel Economy Calculator from Play Store which I recommend, as it was much easier to use than another one I tried. All it needs is volume of fuel used and distance travelled and it does the job.
Jeff
1st December 2014, 06:41 PM
My TDi I normally get 10, but on a recent trip to Perth with my 1200kg trailer dropped to 12.9. It got worse in a headwind at one stage, but returned to 12.9.
Jeff
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carlosbeldia
2nd December 2014, 12:49 AM
My 110 TD5 in open road with only myself and some equipment on it (around 200 kg) got 9,1 l/100 km really caring about the throttle (max 90 kph)..... normal use in my city (sea level) gives me 10,3, and driving hard on the road (100-120 kph), it goes to 10,5... it's not bad at all, our Mazda 626 2003 2.0 goes for 14 l in the city (using A/C) and 9 l in economic road driving...
stewie110
2nd December 2014, 06:43 AM
The best average that I've got is 9.5 in a TD5 in the outback never going above 90km/hour fully loaded. However we average between 10.5 and 11.5 on most trips depending how many km i do above 100km/hour.
I personally feel there is a sweet spot around 80-90km/hour in the td5 where there is less noise, and amazing fuel efficiency..
DiscoMick
2nd December 2014, 08:00 PM
Yes our D1 Tdi auto was happiest around 95 in 4th, but the Defender 2.4 seems happiest at 100km/h in sixth.
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Pacemaker
3rd December 2014, 10:06 PM
95 130 dual cab with alloy tray
HS 2.8 tgv engine, disco transfer case, heavy maxidrive hydraulic winch, scrub bars/sliders, front and rear air lockers, 2 inch lift, spot lights on the bull bar and roll bar/head board, dual batteries, 2nd fuel tank 75ltrs, chequer plate and 285 75 16 mud tyres.
12.5 ltrs per hundred at 115-120 kms hr
Cheers
Michael
Gumnut
3rd December 2014, 10:40 PM
Well, for my 95 300tdi 130 HCPU, three figures for today:
No trailer 11l/100km.
Tandem car trailer 14l/100km
Tandem car trailer and Disco 17l/100km
That has been pretty consistent last 8 years....
Gumnut
rar110
4th December 2014, 08:35 AM
For my Perentie 110 with a turbo I use 14-15 lt/100 when loaded and 12-13 lt/100 km when empty. I usually sit on 90-100 kph.
I get much better in the tdv8 RR 😋.
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