RRS bullbar

[Clelo]

Does anyone know if a supplier has made a bullbar for a sport yet?
I am looking for a Sahara style with a 9000lb Warn winch mount as well
Thanks in advance

[ADMIRAL]

Do a search. There have been a couple of threads lately on D4 bullbars being used on RRS's. Talk to your local OL store. I doubt you will get anywhere getting anyone to modify a bullbar back to a safari bar. You may have to do your own thing.

[unseenone]

I found one company in the US that makes one for the RRS.

Here is a link if it helps you. Wincher: Land Rover - Range Rover | Tactical Armor Group - Bumper Store (http://tacticalarmorgroup.com/TAG-Bumper-Store/Wincher-Land-Rover-Range-Rover)

[101RRS]

While ARB and Opposite Lock bars from the D3 can be made to fit the RRS and there is a Qld maker who makes an aluminium bar, there are no bars that are certified ADR compliant to fit the RRS.

Garry

[Clelo]

Thanks guys
I have searched a found couple of leads but not having a bar that's ADR compliant makes a whole lot of trouble if something goes wrong
Looks like a winch mount only and a sharp eye on the roos is the answer
No rear bar, no winch bar,not much choice in off-road tyres and already having battery issues
Might have made a mistake I think

[ADMIRAL]

Thanks guys
I have searched a found couple of leads but not having a bar that's ADR compliant makes a whole lot of trouble if something goes wrong
Looks like a winch mount only and a sharp eye on the roos is the answer
No rear bar, no winch bar,not much choice in off-road tyres and already having battery issues
Might have made a mistake I think

Tyres are getting better all the time, and at the risk of reopening another arguement, take a look at the GOE 18" rims.

If you want to explore the capabilties of your RRS, talk to Gordon at GOE. Currently traversing the Simpson in said vehicle.

[Clelo]

I spoke to ARB today and they said that if sufficent RRS owners approached them individually with contact details about wanting front and or rear bars they would develop them
I guess I make one. Is there anyone else interested?
I can provide the details if others are keen

[Diego Luego]

Battery issue? My RRS battery is nearly 6 years old and still going ok.

[Clelo]

Yes low battery warning up after a week in the garage
Apparently some of them have this gremlin
Having it looked at tomorrow along with a rear door lock not unlocking

[Clelo]

Appears that the dealer installed a battery that had a CCA of 630 instead of at least 720-750 amps
That combined with locking every night seems to have fixed the battery issue
Is no one interested in a bullbar?

[101RRS]

I spoke to ARB today and they said that if sufficent RRS owners approached them individually with contact details about wanting front and or rear bars they would develop them



Is no one interested in a bullbar?

Did you speak to ARB in Canberra or ARB head office as ARB Head Office have always indicated there was not the demand, particularly now as the L320 is no longer made, and they would not be getting their D3/D4 bar certified for the L320.

Garry

[Rob king]

Someone's doing it....
Rob

[101RRS]

Yes that is Zilche's RRS - there are some threads on it. Done by some OL dealers without the approval of Head Office.

garry

[zilch]

Yes that is Zilche's RRS - there are some threads on it. Done by some OL dealers without the approval of Head Office.

garry

i would just say there seems a large difference in opinion between the dealerships and the OL mothership.. OL dealerships in both Sydney and Qld
state it is ADR and SRS compliant for the chassis it is fitted to.. they also state it would be an offence and they would be open to prosecution if they carried out an illegal modification to my (anyones) vehicle, hence their level of surety

That said i think GGHaggis has a better approach in terms of A bar and winch which retains the Sports classic line.. so maybe i might change the appearance again ;).. when i get my next bonus / tax cheque of course

[Clelo]

Sorry guys still getting use to the site
Didn't go to the second page until now
Yes I spoke to Sydney and was told that unless their bars were ADR approved they would not sell any bars
Without numbers they would not be interested in building bars
I would have though D4 and RRS would collectively be enough interest and assuming the safety devices and chassis are the same on both that one bar perhaps with slight side aesthetic changes would prompt ARB into action for both types
The older models become the more likely they will be tempted off-road means the L 320 should be on their radar more now than before

[101RRS]

As I have said before - it doesn't matter what dealers, franchises or state managers say - it was it was the maker and importer says and that is Opposite Lock Australia - not one of there subordinate organisations.

Here is the link to Opposite Lock Australia Contact page Contact us (http://www.oppositelock.com.au/contact/)

Send them a query as I did and see what they have to say.

I hope their responses to me, as I have previously published, are wrong as I would love to get one of their bars fitted but unless the manufacturer and importer can provide the relevant compliance information then I am not prepared to have them fitted.

Garry

[zilch]

The implication from your email is that i have a possible route to ask OL to a). remove all mods, b). reinstall all original parts, c). refund all OL charges (Bar/Winch/Lights) if my vehicle is now deemed illegal and their dealerships knowingly supplied and made modifications to that vehicle. that may be quite an interesting exercise.. i will see what they say.. and let you know

[ADMIRAL]

The implication from your email is that i have a possible route to ask OL to a). remove all mods, b). reinstall all original parts, c). refund all OL charges (Bar/Winch/Lights) if my vehicle is now deemed illegal and their dealerships knowingly supplied and made modifications to that vehicle. that may be quite an interesting exercise.. i will see what they say.. and let you know

Why take that course ? You have what you want. As we have seen with a lot of similar issues on vehicles other than LR. If you push hard enough, you will get what you want, and no one else will be able to fit the product to their vehicle. Sometimes it is better to have shades of grey rather than black & white.

[Piddler]

Why take that course ? You have what you want. As we have seen with a lot of similar issues on vehicles other than LR. If you push hard enough, you will get what you want, and no one else will be able to fit the product to their vehicle. Sometimes it is better to have shades of grey rather than black & white.


Agree, good lord how many of us made bullbars for our original 2.4 Hilux and thrashed them all those years ago.

Too many people worry about the nanny state. I would just enjoy it looks great and is functional.

Cheers

[Rob king]

Zilch,
I agree with Admiral and Piddler.
Someone has to pioneer these things or they don't happen.
Over regulation is breeding mice where once there were men.
Besides it wasn't made in your shed; you paid professionals with that specific expertise who make and sell the things, made every effort to do it right and it looks the goods too!
Can't see you the customer carrying the can even if something does go wrong.
But really though, its not like its a new engineering design.. how much difference is there between a D4 and a RRS?- same chassis, safety systems, wheelbase, track ... its just cosmetic.
Rob.

[Redback]

Zilch,
I agree with Admiral and Piddler.
Someone has to pioneer these things or they don't happen.
Over regulation is breeding mice where once there were men.
Besides it wasn't made in your shed; you paid professionals with that specific expertise who make and sell the things, made every effort to do it right and it looks the goods too!
Can't see you the customer carrying the can even if something does go wrong.
But really though, its not like its a new engineering design.. how much difference is there between a D4 and a RRS?- same chassis, safety systems, wheelbase, track ... its just cosmetic.
Rob.

Almost, RRS is shorter in the wheel base, body is narrower, shorter in height;)

[Rob king]

Thanks Redback,
I may well stand corrected....
We'll just go for similar!:cool:
Rob.

[zilch]

the Disco and RRS share the same Chassis .... even though one wears a tuxedo and the other a dungaree :)

I am not going to say anything more on the subject as there is a quite distinct difference of opinion and i do not
want to be the one that screws it up for everyone else.... enjoy your Sports and make your own decision

[Clelo]

Thanks Gary I have sent OL a reply
See what happens

[chuck]

I would have thought that if you had a compliance plate on the bar & a receipt from the manufacturer albeit franchisee/agent you would be ok.

If the insurer had issues they would I think it take it up with the manufacturer.

The law is supposed to work on the "reasonable man" process.
Pretty sure all a reasonable man would need in this instance is a compliance plate & receipt.