Medical cannabis

[Gerokent]

"THE people of Norfolk Island are fighting for theterritory’s right to become Australia’s legally-grown cannabis capital —Cannabis Island.
More than 14,000 supporters have rallied behind a petitionto allow medicinal cannabis to be grown on Norfolk Island.

Last week that licence was overturned by Norfolk’sAustralian government representative Gary Hardgrave who has the final say onthese matters."
Is this not indicitive of our short sighted, ill-informed, (insert more expletives),
pollies.

[Homestar]

Please stick to discussing the subject matter here, not the politics of it.

[RHS58]

What's the difference between medicinal cannabis and recreational cannabis?
Sure there's lots of anecdotes out there - let's have some hard evidence.
How much should they grow on your Cannabis Island for medical use?
How and where will it be processed, stored etc.
how will it be administered to recipients? Smoke it? Make it in to tablets?
Has it been through medical trials?
What to do with the excess?
How do they keep the farm secure from fence hopping samplers?
I'm all for medicinal use for good reasons - but what even are these? Maybe intractable pain of cancer would be one. Would it be appropriate to treat simple anxiety with it?
How do we police things like driving while under its effects?
Lot of questions to be answered before they go ahead.
I understand the pollies (and probably others) reluctance.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

From the Cabinet or the Street? How is Medical Marijuana Different from the Street Drug | CODA (http://www.drugabuse.ca/cabinet-or-street-how-medical-marijuana-different-street-drug)

[Gerokent]

Just for starters, 23 states in the U.S.A where it is leagl for medical use must be some kind of indication that it has benifits. I can well understand the concerns that organised criminals would love to get in on it, but have a look at Tassie's poppy crop.
Driving under the influence - the police have just introduced new equipment for detecting just this. there is no difference than driving under heavy perscribed sedation.
Surely, surely a natural drug would be better than having chemical companies synthizise (harmful) chemicals for those who need it, thereby dominating what is avalible for those who need it.

P.S IMHO, big chemical companies are more suseptible to corruption and skullduggery than a state controlled enterprize.

[Homestar]

Lots of questions to answer, but yes, others in the world are using it successfully, so I'm sure we could model something off those that have already begun to learn from its use.

Under certain circumstances, I have no issue with it.

[sheerluck]

I don't see an issue. After all, we quite happily accept that opium is refined into morphine (and other drugs), and the control is handled reasonably well.

So why not the same for medical mary jane?

[Mick_Marsh]

I don't see an issue. After all, we quite happily accept that opium is refined into morphine (and other drugs), and the control is handled reasonably well.

So why not the same for medical mary jane?
And ice is used as a prescription drug, however, delivery method plays an important part in it's safe use.

[JamesB71]

Most recreational smokers are self medicating for a stress or anxiety disorders with it because it works better than the prescription ones and have none of the truly horrendous side effects the highly priced, poorly understood and relatively dangerous but legal options have.

[sheerluck]

And ice is used as a prescription drug, however, delivery method plays an important part in it's safe use.

I agree. Controlled delivery methods along with controlled purity are key.

[bob10]

Yeah, looks harmless to me ............Bob


Drugs - crystal methamphetamine, tina, crystal meths, krank, tweak, ice (http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/meth.html)

[RHS58]

I have no issue with its use in a controlled, proscribed and prescribed way.
Good on the "farmers / producers" on Norfolk Island for looking for a way to benefit the islands economy.
Growing it on an isolated island will certainly help to limit diversion of the product to illicit channels.
But I'd like to know if they have a legitimate process and market already in place for the product?
The political response suggests maybe not is all in order....Yet?

[Chucaro]

It would be interesting if there is an increase in visitors to the island after all is up and running :D

[Ancient Mariner]

Norfolk Island have been bluing with the government for some time I think They want all services health /social security/ inter structure etc but want to pay no tax So they would probably smoke the lot anyway:D

AM

[Mick_Marsh]

You know they are already cropping cannabis here in Victoria. They've been doing it for quite some time. Lots of products made from hemp, good quality rope for instance.

[Mick_Marsh]

Yeah, looks harmless to me ............Bob


Drugs - crystal methamphetamine, tina, crystal meths, krank, tweak, ice (http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/meth.html)
Desoxyn is used to treat ADHD and obesity (amongst other things).
Admittedly, it's usually ingested via a tablet. The delivery method thing.

[CraigE]

I support medical use only with it being in liquid form only and available on prescription for certain illnesses only with limited high effect. The supporters that say it has no high effect are full of it, all analgesics have some high effect.
As long as we do not go down the path of the US where medicinal cannabis is a joke and supplied to smoke in normal form. It is rorted easily in the US with bull**** medical illnesses declared.
Really if it is done right no different to any other prescribed drug.

[Chucaro]

Blazing a Trail: Uruguay and A Shifting War on Drugs (http://semancha.com/2013/08/14/blazing-a-trail-uruguay-and-a-shifting-war-on-drugs/)

And this bring to the market the big money chasers Monsanto :mad: :censored:
Monsanto plans to patent genetically modified marijuana in Uruguay

(http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/05/monsanto-plans-patent-genetically-modified-marijuana-brand-uruguay.html)

[Gerokent]

Liberal Democrat senator David Leyonhjelm wants to kill the power of organised crime in Australia by decriminalising drugs, opening up the market and bringing down prices.

This is what some South American countries are doing at the moment. Be interesting to see how it goes.

[Barefoot Dave]

The model for growing and managing the acces to floral narcotics is well practices already on another Australian Island: Tassie.
They've been growing opium poppies for yonks without major hassles or raids.
Just like maryjane, security is ramped up when the opioids begin to strengthen and the otherwise dull useless plants become attractive.
Even easier to protect if growing hydro inside a buiilding.
That model is proven in nearly every suburb in this country :wasntme:

[Hoges]

Thalidomide, heroin, methamphetamines... all very useful and beneficial when prescribed for the correct indications. No reason why the active ingredient of cannabis sativa should not be used likewise subject to properly conducted clinical trials.

The recent "Lancet" publication Adverse health effects of non-medical cannabis use : The Lancet (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(09)61037-0/abstract) just confirms what many scientists and drug experts have known ...and been warning about for 40+ years... cannabis when used for "recreation" is one of the most pernicious drugs around. When used with alcohol it can often produce psychotic effects which bring only tragedy to all concerned.

There are many variants of cannabis, some of which have very low THC content and which provide excellent hemp material for all manner of products...clothing, food, structural materials... trouble is, too few of the pollies have any science understanding to comprehend a rational explanation on the subject:censored: