Toyota's most rugged Land Cruiser is back in Japan

[lebanon]

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Toyota's most rugged Land Cruiser is back in Japan (http://news.yahoo.com/toyotas-most-rugged-land-cruiser-085725988.html'soc_src=copy)

[B92 8NW]

If I could pick one up for 3.6 million Yen it'd be the first thing I do tomorrow after getting dressed.

[Disco Muppet]

You mean they didn't want to bring the Ghostrider back?! :twisted:

From the Archives! - Ghost Rider Custom | Australian 4WD Action (http://www.4wdaction.com.au/articles/2013/archives-ghost-rider-custom)

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[isuzurover]

That article is proof we are paying too much for 79 series.

[amtravic1]

The article says it is fitted with a 4 litre V6 engine.

[BMKal]

Definitely built for short-arses. ;)

Try driving one of these things if you're 6 foot tall or better.

I had one as a hire vechicle for 3 months when I was managing a plant upgrade up north a while back. Most uncomfortable piece of crap I've ever driven. There's more room for the driver in the ute / trayback version - at least you can move the seat back in them - you can't in the wagon.

And the V8 diesel engine is gutless .................. even a Td5 will blow them away. ;)

Solid ............ yes. But offroad capable - nothing special, there's plenty of others out there that will match or better it.

[nat_89]

That article is proof we are paying too much for 79 series.

Ill have to agree there, we pay nearly double for the bloody things not that i own one but i can't see the V8 diesel costing that much extra!!


Definitely built for short-arses. ;)

Try driving one of these things if you're 6 foot tall or better.

I had one as a hire vechicle for 3 months when I was managing a plant upgrade up north a while back. Most uncomfortable piece of crap I've ever driven. There's more room for the driver in the ute / trayback version - at least you can move the seat back in them - you can't in the wagon.

And the V8 diesel engine is gutless .................. even a Td5 will blow them away. ;)

Solid ............ yes. But offroad capable - nothing special, there's plenty of others out there that will match or better it.

I can only agree 110% they are just rubbish thats all we have on our site and god they are just rough as hell and small inside!! The engine is pretty ordinary to i dunno about how much fuel they use as we just fill them up and don't care and living in a mining town I'm sick of hearing that V8 engine with every different exhaust combination around hahaha.

I can't believe the price of them crazy!

[uninformed]

That article is proof we are paying too much for 79 series.

When did we buy one Ben?

[djam1]

They are a loong way from the most rugged Land Cruiser
The earlier models were stronger

[isuzurover]

When did we buy one Ben?

"we" as in Australia Serg...

Surely you knew what I meant already :angel:

The 79 series is the closest Toyota to a Defender. In fact the LR has probably changed more from 1948-now as the toyota has from 1951 to now. They still use the same rear suspension and track width :D :D

Toyota 4x4 production predates LR - since the AK10 was built in 1941...

[akula]

Toyota 4x4 production predates LR - since the AK10 was built in 1941...

I could be wrong, although I am fairly certain the AK10 was an one-off, reversed engineered Bantam BRC 40 that was captured in the Philippines. IRC production of vehicles related to LC commenced in the early 50's.

[disco man]

That article is proof we are paying too much for 79 series.

Very true,but at the end of the day if people are to stupid to understand that the Land bruiser is overpriced and overrated let them get ripped off.

When you run the numbers of the hilux against the other dual-cab 4x4's on the market there is nothing that makes it stand out against the others,the only difference is you pay more for that badge on the grill.

There is nothing that makes the 200 series stand out against any other in the market either,except more fuel use and a bigger price tag.

Same story when you move into the pathetic compact suv market,the rav4(****box) is mid pack in terms of features,power,economy,cabin space but right near the top in pricing.

Moving on to the hatchback market there is offerings that offer more features and are far better priced.

At the end of the day Toyota's marketing in Australia has done a fantastic job in fooling people into thinking they make a superior product.

[PAT303]

I think more and more people are choosing to not pay Toyota money going by the amount of Jeeps,Hyundia's and Kia's there is getting around.I find it interesting that Tojo didn't fit the mighty D4D to their unbreakable 79series,maybe they thought it wouldn't be unbreakable. Pat

[Doc130]

Disco man your spot on!

[wardy1]

Definitely NOT wanting to hijack the post!
Up until tomorrow, I have a hired 3 y.o Navara in the garage.
Wish I didn't have to work really, coz I'd leave it right there.
Seats..... yeah, it has some
Performance... OK if you like 2800rpm in 5th at 110k
Suspension..... yet to find any. Searched in both the users manual and underneath.... it's a void:( Did a Google search of 'Navara Suspension' and came up with 'No Matches" LOL

Now I've had lower back poroblems for 35 years. Haven't had to do anything for the last 10 (since I owned a D2 funnily enough).

After 1 week of the Navara..... my back is stuffed again:(

Can I get the physio deducted from the bloody rental of $89/day?

yeah right.

What a **** box!

[Disco Muppet]

Interesting.
Dads got a D22, last of the non common rail ZD30s ( :eek: )
Drives nicely, suspension is a bit harsh but so is my D2 on HD coils.
Steers, stops, comfortable. Only fault he's had is the left hand side speakers stopped working. And he ain't exactly big on maintenance. Like...at all... :eek:
Guess some of them are okay.
Only complaint I have is it needs another gear. Nearly doing 3k at 110.

[Robmacca]

Interesting in reading peoples comments, etc....

I would have to agree that the prices u pay are high..... but....

It's funny that when u go to the remote areas & talk to the local mechanics, etc or talk to the mining companies, etc and u ask them which is the more reliable make of car.... u will "nearly" always hear their reply be - Toyota.

The mining companies have tried other makes of vehicles with some success but I know Rio Tinto tried moving from Toyotas to the Ford Rangers, but have now found that it's not cost effective due to all the breakages, etc and now are wanting to move back to Toyota.

The RACQ mechanic I spoke to up in Mossman who covers a HUGH area in breakdown services, said the same thing..... Toyota is the only make that he would pick going from what he has experienced from covering vehicle breakdowns, etc.....

I know people will disagree and all that, and the people that I've spoken to could be bias, etc, but Toyota do make a reliable vehicle, but are they perfect - No; Do they have problems - Yes, but maybe not to the same degree as other makes. All modern 4WD's these days are a risk for those that truly want to use them as they were intended.....

I know I will cop a bagging from my comments, but as one who has always had Toyotas as 4WD's (& still does) but also has tried a Nissan Navara (never again) and who now has moved into a Discovery Tdi to see what they are like, I would always lean towards a Toyota if I had to make a choice....

Does Toyota have the same character as a Landrover.... probably not.... are the LR's just as reliable.... I'm yet to find out.... though I hope so as I become familiar with my Disco-1 driving to/from work and start using it for its intended purpose of going bush.....

For the little time I've had my Disco ( & with very limited experience & knowledge of LR's), I've totally enjoyed driving it and its comfy to ride in and I hope I have many years of joy in driving it, but it wouldn't be a fair comparison in comparing it with our 150's Prado (Old vs New, etc).

Let the bagging begin.....:angel:





Very true,but at the end of the day if people are to stupid to understand that the Land bruiser is overpriced and overrated let them get ripped off.

When you run the numbers of the hilux against the other dual-cab 4x4's on the market there is nothing that makes it stand out against the others,the only difference is you pay more for that badge on the grill.

There is nothing that makes the 200 series stand out against any other in the market either,except more fuel use and a bigger price tag.

Same story when you move into the pathetic compact suv market,the rav4(****box) is mid pack in terms of features,power,economy,cabin space but right near the top in pricing.

Moving on to the hatchback market there is offerings that offer more features and are far better priced.

At the end of the day Toyota's marketing in Australia has done a fantastic job in fooling people into thinking they make a superior product.

[nat_89]

Interesting in reading peoples comments, etc....

I would have to agree that the prices u pay are high..... but....

It's funny that when u go to the remote areas & talk to the local mechanics, etc or talk to the mining companies, etc and u ask them which is the more reliable make of car.... u will "nearly" always hear their reply be - Toyota.

The mining companies have tried other makes of vehicles with some success but I know Rio Tinto tried moving from Toyotas to the Ford Rangers, but have now found that it's not cost effective due to all the breakages, etc and now are wanting to move back to Toyota.

The RACQ mechanic I spoke to up in Mossman who covers a HUGH area in breakdown services, said the same thing..... Toyota is the only make that he would pick going from what he has experienced from covering vehicle breakdowns, etc.....

I know people will disagree and all that, and the people that I've spoken to could be bias, etc, but Toyota do make a reliable vehicle, but are they perfect - No; Do they have problems - Yes, but maybe not to the same degree as other makes. All modern 4WD's these days are a risk for those that truly want to use them as they were intended.....

I know I will cop a bagging from my comments, but as one who has always had Toyotas as 4WD's (& still does) but also has tried a Nissan Navara (never again) and who now has moved into a Discovery Tdi to see what they are like, I would always lean towards a Toyota if I had to make a choice....

Does Toyota have the same character as a Landrover.... probably not.... are the LR's just as reliable.... I'm yet to find out.... though I hope so as I become familiar with my Disco-1 driving to/from work and start using it for its intended purpose of going bush.....

For the little time I've had my Disco ( & with very limited experience & knowledge of LR's), I've totally enjoyed driving it and its comfy to ride in and I hope I have many years of joy in driving it, but it wouldn't be a fair comparison in comparing it with our 150's Prado (Old vs New, etc).

Let the bagging begin.....:angel:

I can offer some comment on the mining company side of Toyotas i work for a big mining company and we have varied between Toyota and Nissan for a while because the Toyotas didn't offer passenger air bags so then we went to Nissan and they were pretty hopeless so then they went to Hilux and they didn't handle the crap we treat them with and then we went to the new V8 utes and wagons which i must say cop and absolute flogging you couldn't believe how they get treated just rank!!
They have lasted pretty well considering then they now have a push on cars having 5 star ANCAP rating as that reduces the chance of a roll over to start with so they think they can get away with not having a ROPS in the car, so with the 5 star push we have changed to Auto Ford Rangers.
The Rangers just can't handle the punishment we give them first they are auto so they won't go in to park if they get clogged up with mud then they won't start not in park so you gotta mess around with them to get them to start and they have blown diffs transmission engines turbos so many problems.
So i think they are maybe going to go back to Toyotas again just because for us in the harsh environment and punishment we give them they seem to handle better than anything else.

[disco man]

I can offer some comment on the mining company side of Toyotas i work for a big mining company and we have varied between Toyota and Nissan for a while because the Toyotas didn't offer passenger air bags so then we went to Nissan and they were pretty hopeless so then they went to Hilux and they didn't handle the crap we treat them with and then we went to the new V8 utes and wagons which i must say cop and absolute flogging you couldn't believe how they get treated just rank!!
They have lasted pretty well considering then they now have a push on cars having 5 star ANCAP rating as that reduces the chance of a roll over to start with so they think they can get away with not having a ROPS in the car, so with the 5 star push we have changed to Auto Ford Rangers.
The Rangers just can't handle the punishment we give them first they are auto so they won't go in to park if they get clogged up with mud then they won't start not in park so you gotta mess around with them to get them to start and they have blown diffs transmission engines turbos so many problems.
So i think they are maybe going to go back to Toyotas again just because for us in the harsh environment and punishment we give them they seem to handle better than anything else.

Just to add a bit more on the mining side of things,i work underground and we run a large fleet of Toyota's and yes they cop an absolute hiding the way some blokes treat these cars is just ****ed.

I bet they don't treat their own cars like that.

[nat_89]

Just to add a bit more on the mining side of things,i work underground and we run a large fleet of Toyota's and yes they cop an absolute hiding the way some blokes treat these cars is just ****ed.

I bet they don't treat their own cars like that.

Dead right there Disco Man they flog the crap out of them and we are open cut so ours go some places you would not believe haha just mad!! No way do they treat their own cars like that all of our cars have badly damaged back doors on them from people trying to line up to lighting plants and just hopeless!! But they do seem to be the only car that can handle the brutal punishment they cop!

[PAT303]

All you blokes who say they cop a flogging etc,I ran LV workshops for quite some time at different sites and the reason why they keep going is because of OH&S laws the vehicles need to be kept at a safe standard so they get parts thrown at them like none of you would believe,I have costed both 130 Td5's and LC's at the same site over a 2 year period and the result was the same,there was nothing in it. Pat

[DieselDan]

You mean they didn't want to bring the Ghostrider back?! :twisted:

From the Archives! - Ghost Rider Custom | Australian 4WD Action (http://www.4wdaction.com.au/articles/2013/archives-ghost-rider-custom)

:lol2:

Ha ha, I've seen that thing driving around near Bendigo.
It's an utter abomination!

[disco man]

Dead right there Disco Man they flog the crap out of them and we are open cut so ours go some places you would not believe haha just mad!! No way do they treat their own cars like that all of our cars have badly damaged back doors on them from people trying to line up to lighting plants and just hopeless!! But they do seem to be the only car that can handle the brutal punishment they cop!

Spot on there mate,bloody tough cars.But i will say Toyota have made the company i work for look around at other makes because to take anything underground with a turbo needs a fire suppression system fitted adding about $5000? to the cost.

The interior of the V8 cruisers is no where near as rugged as the old school models,bits and pieces fall off and break.And not sure why but they seem to be a bit harder on springs and break pads.

You get some blokes driving like Brock in standard crusiers,mate you should see how fast they can go in the V8's bloody scary!!!!

[DiscoMick]

Crude, cramped, hard-riding, underpowered for the engine size - yep, I can certainly see why people would pay the 'Toyota tax' to get one - not.

[nat_89]

All you blokes who say they cop a flogging etc,I ran LV workshops for quite some time at different sites and the reason why they keep going is because of OH&S laws the vehicles need to be kept at a safe standard so they get parts thrown at them like none of you would believe,I have costed both 130 Td5's and LC's at the same site over a 2 year period and the result was the same,there was nothing in it. Pat

That may be true for some sites but the one i work for unfortunately leases cars so they all go to town to get work done and they only do what work is requested such as just a service there could be heaps wrong with them and they only fix what is asked because if its not on the order they don't get paid. When they used to do it onsite it was way better kept on top of but now they don't get any attention and these places rip the mines of left right and centre i couldn't even imagine how much they charge!!




Spot on there mate,bloody tough cars.But i will say Toyota have made the company i work for look around at other makes because to take anything underground with a turbo needs a fire suppression system fitted adding about $5000? to the cost.

The interior of the V8 cruisers is no where near as rugged as the old school models,bits and pieces fall off and break.And not sure why but they seem to be a bit harder on springs and break pads.

You get some blokes driving like Brock in standard crusiers,mate you should see how fast they can go in the V8's bloody scary!!!!


They are bloody tough cars and probably only good for mine sites because they would break ya back on the highway they are that rough!! Well being open cut we don't have to have a fire suppression system they just have to have an extinguisher on board so thats not a problem for us.

I will agree on the interior our door grab handles always fall off the window winders to and door handles seem to mess up a bit aswell.

Haha i must admit i give them a bit of a run to in the wet good fun but i mean really no use babying them when everyone else flogs the arse out of them but, your right there some people just drive like you can't believe haha!!

[Robmacca]

All you blokes who say they cop a flogging etc,I ran LV workshops for quite some time at different sites and the reason why they keep going is because of OH&S laws the vehicles need to be kept at a safe standard so they get parts thrown at them like none of you would believe,I have costed both 130 Td5's and LC's at the same site over a 2 year period and the result was the same,there was nothing in it. Pat

Just curious here... But is there many places (companies) that run land rovers in their fleet range? I've never come across it or heard of it....not that means much [emoji5]
Just curious that's all.....

[disco man]

Just curious here... But is there many places (companies) that run land rovers in their fleet range? I've never come across it or heard of it....not that means much [emoji5]
Just curious that's all.....

We had one dual cab Defender that was used as a mine's rescue truck,the only reason it was withdrawn was it lacked the power when fully loaded with all the gear and 5 people on board.

It was fine on the surface but underground there is steep declines.

[goingbush]

Anybody that thinks or says that a Landrover is as rugged or as reliable as a Toyota is in Denial.

one of the worlds most unreliable cars compared to one of the toughest.

would I ever buy a new Toyota , no way.

[isuzurover]

Anybody that thinks or says that a Landrover is as rugged or as reliable as a Toyota is in Denial.

one of the worlds most unreliable cars compared to one of the toughest.

would I ever buy a new Toyota , no way.


No vehicle is perfect, but since this is a Landrover site there are some that would be able to hold a broken LR axle and claim they are stronger than toyota axles...

[Dougal]

No vehicle is perfect, but since this is a Landrover site there are some that would be able to hold a broken LR axle and claim they are stronger than toyota axles...
What size is a hilux axle?

[isuzurover]

What size is a hilux axle?

~1.3" 30 spline

Plus the diffs are hypoid

[BMKal]

Just curious here... But is there many places (companies) that run land rovers in their fleet range? I've never come across it or heard of it....not that means much [emoji5]
Just curious that's all.....

Up until a few years ago, Central Norseman Gold's entire fleet was Land Rover. I think they changed to Toyota at about the time Western Mining Corporation sold them off (Pat would probably have a better idea on this than I do).

One of the main reasons that mining companies got into Toyotas initially was the massive fleet discounts that they were offered at the time - no other vehicle manufacturer could come close to them in price.

Having said that - they do still make some of the "toughest" vehicles that suit the requirements of the mining industry.

I've lost count of the number of Toyotas I've had as company vehicles. Mostly Prado's (I've had at least 7 of them) and a few Land Cruisers. Fortunately, never had a HiLux. Would I buy a Toyota myself ........... not a chance. ;)

Edit: I tell a lie - SWMBO has a Camry. Boring as bat**** but cheap, reliable and does the job. It is probably soon to be replaced - we're thinking Freelander.

[nat_89]

Just curious here... But is there many places (companies) that run land rovers in their fleet range? I've never come across it or heard of it....not that means much [emoji5]
Just curious that's all.....

Never seen one at all on any mine size as Disco Man said power to low and most have to have dual air bags and abs as a minimum or i know our site does!! Although i see BMKal has seen a site with them but I've only ever been on a few central QLD sites. We do have one SWB Mercedes Unimog haha thats what the pump crew use and my god they give it a flogging and the little bugger goes anywhere its a crack up :p

[Dougal]

~1.3" 30 spline

Plus the diffs are hypoid

1.3" is about RRC/D1 size. Not hard to imagine the hilux diffs being tougher.

A mate runs a hilux diff in his Starlet.

[goingbush]

I had a salisbury diff center for sale on ebay, A bloke came to collect it in a Hilux, the diff was for his dads Landy. The Hilux had a V8 in it and upon asking about it he said it had a Rover 3.5 ( weird huh)

It was still 2WD only as the front propshaft would not fit because he had to modify the exhaust.

he had 35's on it and the rear diff was a CIG locker (welded up) when he left he smoked the rear tyres up with associated axle tramp (bogan)

Those Hilux axles ARE tough !!

Similarily the bloke next door used to do rollbacks in his pos GQ patrol and axle hop up the road - I always hoped he would throw a tail-shaft but nothing ever broke.

try doing that stuff in any Landy and its going to end in tears.

[isuzurover]

1.3" is about RRC/D1 size. Not hard to imagine the hilux diffs being tougher.

A mate runs a hilux diff in his Starlet.

LR are 1.24'' 24 spline or 1.1'' 10 spline.

[PAT303]

Just curious here... But is there many places (companies) that run land rovers in their fleet range? I've never come across it or heard of it....not that means much [emoji5]
Just curious that's all.....

None since the airbag rule,lots before.I worked at HVO coal in the lower hunter and the open cut inspector drove a metalic green L322 RR,it even had large rims,can't remember but 19'' or something,130's were common place,the A frame ball joint was the one thing that used to flog out,LC's used to break diffs,both wore out door hinges.On all sites I've worked on ''flogging'' vehicles was instant dismisal,if you returned with damage or were spotted driving with some welly you had some explaining to do. Pat

[PAT303]

Anybody that thinks or says that a Landrover is as rugged or as reliable as a Toyota is in Denial.

one of the worlds most unreliable cars compared to one of the toughest.

would I ever buy a new Toyota , no way.

And you can back that up?,I've had both at the same time and used in the same conditions and my Land Rovers have been more reliable,all of the problems you read on this forum are repeated on Nissan and Toyota forums,the only difference is LR owners aren't full of BS and will tell you outright what goes wrong instead of protecting a myth,I think you need to get out more. Pat

[PAT303]

No vehicle is perfect, but since this is a Landrover site there are some that would be able to hold a broken LR axle and claim they are stronger than toyota axles...

Yeh because they break every day don't they ;).I could never understand how Len Beadell could drive all over outback Oz BEFORE there were roads and never break one,the bush must have been a lot softer back then. Pat

[goingbush]

And you can back that up?,I've had both at the same time and used in the same conditions and my Land Rovers have been more reliable,all of the problems you read on this forum are repeated on Nissan and Toyota forums,the only difference is LR owners aren't full of BS and will tell you outright what goes wrong instead of protecting a myth,I think you need to get out more. Pat

Yes mate, Ive owned and rebuilt dozens of Landrovers since the early 80's In the 2000's I got sick of working on them instead of driving them, then I had 3 Toyotas, rebuilt a 79 BJ40 and done a few round Aust trips in 1HDT 80 and 1HZ 105 Toyotas, Just drove them never modified them, never broke anything, tools got rusty . (well the 1HDT did blow up at 460,000km) I got sick of boredom and swapped the 105 for a '06 Td5 110 and out comes the tools again, replaced everything except the engine. Rebuilt Diffs, hubs, transfercase/ gearbox , wiring, .... everything stuffs up on them, Love the Landy but they just are bloody unreliable.

Landrover are defenitly fun to drive and great off road - but not dependable at all, saving grace is they are easy to fix.

[Disco Muppet]

I saw a mine-spec RRS the other day.
White, high-viz yellow stripes, all the flashing orange lights, site markings, had a designated LV number, flag, etc.
I'd like a job in this mine please....

[nat_89]

I saw a mine-spec RRS the other day.
White, high-viz yellow stripes, all the flashing orange lights, site markings, had a designated LV number, flag, etc.
I'd like a job in this mine please....

Hahah crack up lucky bugger alright!!

[disco man]

I saw a mine-spec RRS the other day.
White, high-viz yellow stripes, all the flashing orange lights, site markings, had a designated LV number, flag, etc.
I'd like a job in this mine please....

Bloody hell,i would hate to see it after a few runs underground!!!!!:o

[PAT303]

Yes mate, Ive owned and rebuilt dozens of Landrovers since the early 80's In the 2000's I got sick of working on them instead of driving them, then I had 3 Toyotas, rebuilt a 79 BJ40 and done a few round Aust trips in 1HDT 80 and 1HZ 105 Toyotas, Just drove them never modified them, never broke anything, tools got rusty . (well the 1HDT did blow up at 460,000km) I got sick of boredom and swapped the 105 for a '06 Td5 110 and out comes the tools again, replaced everything except the engine. Rebuilt Diffs, hubs, transfercase/ gearbox , wiring, .... everything stuffs up on them, Love the Landy but they just are bloody unreliable.

Landrover are defenitly fun to drive and great off road - but not dependable at all, saving grace is they are easy to fix.

1HDT good machine is it,the biggest POS motor ever sold in Oz,thats why you never see them now,even the die hards have given up on them,can't get parts for them either,my best mate who is a Tojo tragic sold his this year and drives a VW,he just could spend any more money on it,1HZ,yeh baby,what a power house,I've had two,I could never believe a motor that burns so much fuel could produce such little power,and overheat at the drop of a hat,what about that R151 gearbox the LC use,what a great idea making the output gear smaller so you can squeeze a 5th gear in there,the whole lot hanging out supported with just one bearing,thats engineering for ya,lucky I had my not dependable unreliable Tdi defender. Pat

[benji]

The owner of that ghost tojo troopy fills up at work occasionally; he's actually a really nice bloke. As he says, he doesn't have a wife or kids, so he's got to spend his money on something. We've talked about the mods I'm doing on the p38, and he's been quite interested. Usually when I mention I've a p38 to a tojo driver I get an ear full of ignoramus (even amongst some lr fans too).

I've seen some photos and stories of how those mining vehicles are treated, there's nothing wrong with giving them a bootfull, but imo there's a very clear line between using and abusing.




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[DiscoMick]

One of my son's workmates was sacked for dangerous driving in a Hilux.

[DILLIGAF]

Resurrecting an old thread here. but I've got to know, Nat_89 is this the truck you're talking about?


We do have one SWB Mercedes Unimog haha thats what the pump crew use and my god they give it a flogging and the little bugger goes anywhere its a crack up :p

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[Homestar]

Could be waiting a while for an answer unfortunately- last activity from Nat_89 shows as 12th September 2016.

[nat_89]

Resurrecting an old thread here. but I've got to know, Nat_89 is this the truck you're talking about?



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Hahah sorry Dilligaf ive been out of the LR community for a while but yes that's the one!!! Just a little late on the reply!