Defender Recall

[Steve223]

thought it may interest some:

Jaguar Land Rover Australia—Land Rover Defender 110 & 130 MY2011 & MY2012
PRA number: 2014/14252
Date published: 12th August 2014
Product information

Product description
On certain Land Rover Defender 110, 2011 and 2012 Model Year vehicles and Land Rover Defender 130, 2011 and 2012 Model Year vehicles customers have reported oil leaks from end of the front axle case.
Identifying features
P047 = Axle Case renewal 55 vehicles affected in Australia. Selected vehicles within VIN range -
SALLDKVT8BA820578 to SALLDKVT7BA408683

P048 = Bracket Fitment 224 vehicles affected in Australia. Selected vehicles within VIN ranges -
SALLDHMT7BA820580 to SALLDHSS8BA408691
What are the defects?
Some customers have reported oil leaks from end of the front axle case. In more severe cases customers have reported that the wheel hub assembly and suspension have collapsed up into the wheel arch. In extreme cases the wheel and hub have detached from the vehicle.
What are the hazards?
If the wheel hub assembly and suspension collapse or detach the vehicle stability will be compromised and the degree of directional control minimised, this significantly increases the risk of an accident.
Where the product was sold
· Nationally
Traders who sold this product
Jaguar Land Rover authorised dealerships
Supplier
Jaguar Land Rover Australia
What should consumers do?
Owners will be notified and instructed to take their vehicles to a Land Rover authorised repairer who in the case of certain 110 and 130 vehicles with heavy duty suspension, will have correct to specification replacement front axle case installed (Recall action P047)

All other affected vehicles will have an additional bracket (Recall action P048) mounted to the end of the axle case tube to ensure that in the event of failure, wheel, hub assembly and suspension is retained. In this condition the vehicle will exhibit an oil leak from the failed weld area and it is possible steering will be less precise, steering may be mis-aligned and off centre steering will be degraded. In this condition vehicle stability and control ability is fully maintained.
There will be no charge to owners for this repair

[BilboBoggles]

Thanks for posting.

IF my front wheel is possibly going to snap off due to a faulty weld, I want a new complete axle assembly rather than some dodgy bolt on crappy wheel retainer... That solution is pathetic.

[inside]

Hi we're Land Rover and although we've been making this vehicle for decades still can't work out how to make an axle. Can we interest you in 110k RRS without low range? Low range isn't much use with the 22" rims and all. Our DNA yes we talk about that a lot it's adventure you know not that we expect any of our customers do it but it does help us sell vehicles.

[460cixy]

**** weak as usual

[JamesB71]

After yesterdays "fail to proceed" and my entertaining day in the dealer waiting room while they replaced the turbo hose , im wondering what i will do if it happens on my big trip across the desert next year.... Its the reason i bought the vehicle...

[isuzurover]

I cannot see how P048 can be considered fit for purpose.

[Pickles2]

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After yesterdays "fail to proceed" and my entertaining day in the dealer waiting room while they replaced the turbo hose , im wondering what i will do if it happens on my big trip across the desert next year.... Its the reason i bought the vehicle...
Did they give you any reason why the hose "upgrade"they did, failed?
No damage to air box mountings, or bent a/c lines while doing this stuff,...twice?
Pickles.

[AndyG]

After yesterdays "fail to proceed" and my entertaining day in the dealer waiting room while they replaced the turbo hose , im wondering what i will do if it happens on my big trip across the desert next year.... Its the reason i bought the vehicle...

You will reach into your spares bin and take out your silicone hoses and/or your silicone tape :)

[JamesB71]

He claimed it was a hose clamp failure, but the clamp was still around the hose, the hose was just half off the turbo flange and split.

[Sue]

You will reach into your spares bin and take out your silicone hoses and/or your silicone tape :)

Which you will then have problems fitting as they are wider than the original which in turn causes other hoses to rub and wear in the all the wrong spots.. I know because I have said silicon hoses.. :)

Oh and that rescue tape... don't bother.., a forum member recently tried it on his split hose and it lasted about three seconds.. (looks great when they demo it at the shows though).. :(

[JamesB71]

Sounds like i should be buying a spate and learn how to put it in before I go anywhere too remote...

[voltron]

Am I being paranoid or is this ridiculous.
They are saying there is potential for the wheel assembly to come off the vehicle and they plan to put a bracket to stop it. :mad:
shouldnt they replace the whole axel??


Is that legal?

Once again am I being a sook and should just allow a bracket to be the solution.

My hub seals have failed 3 times and Im going in again for the 3rd to be replaced.

[rick130]

Wow, just wow.......

[AndyG]

Which you will then have problems fitting as they are wider than the original which in turn causes other hoses to rub and wear in the all the wrong spots.. I know because I have said silicon hoses.. :)

Oh and that rescue tape... don't bother.., a forum member recently tried it on his split hose and it lasted about three seconds.. (looks great when they demo it at the shows though).. :(

Moving on to Plan B, remove Duty Free OP Rum from fridge & curl up int oa ball.:D

[Didge]

Amazing that they have the gall to call that PO48 idea a repair and then add insult to injury be reminding you they won't charge you for not effecting a proper repair to their design or manufacturing defect. This is the sort of crap that Today tonight or A current affair would usually like to air. So glad I have an old one - that is slow, noisy and leaks even during foggy mornings but doesn't fall apart - except for the rusty bits :)

[Grappler]

My hub seals have failed 3 times and Im going in again for the 3rd to be replaced.

It took 3 failed attempts, replacing leaky front RH hub seals, before they told me there was some "faulty machining" and replaced the whole hub assembly.

The hub replacement has stopped the leak and the wheel hasnt fallen off!

I wonder if this is related to the issue being discussed here?

[Leroy_Riding]

So this does not affect 90's from 2011/2012 then?
what is the difference in the front end?

Leroy.

[rick130]

what is the difference in the front end?

Leroy.

One is welded properly and one isn't........

[Leroy_Riding]

One is welded properly and one isn't........

I meant between the 90 vs the 110/130

Leroy.

[rick130]

I meant between the 90 vs the 110/130

Leroy.
AFAIK they've always been the same.

[isuzurover]

I meant between the 90 vs the 110/130

Leroy.

I suspect they have determined that the load on a 90 axle is less, so are not bothering with a recall.

[Leroy_Riding]

I suspect they have determined that the load on a 90 axle is less, so are not bothering with a recall.

If that is the case, its a bit of a cop out. . Considering a lot of 90's get a fair bit of a work out too, must check mine see if they are leaking. . . means I have to wash it for the first time in nearly 9 months though 0_0

Leroy.

[sideways]

Suzuki have a recall going for Jimnys. Some have a loose front panhard bolt. If there's thread damage then they swap in a new diff housing. A few guys on the Suzuki forums have had theirs swapped out already.

I think it's amusing that Suzuki are putting whole new diff housings in for one thread that could be safely and easily helicoiled/new nut welded on/cut off and nut fitted ect, yet Land Rover aren't replacing housings that are defective and a genuine safety issue.

[Leroy_Riding]

Suzuki have a recall going for Jimnys. Some have a loose front panhard bolt. If there's thread damage then they swap in a new diff housing. A few guys on the Suzuki forums have had theirs swapped out already.

I think it's amusing that Suzuki are putting whole new diff housings in for one thread that could be safely and easily helicoiled/new nut welded on/cut off and nut fitted ect, yet Land Rover aren't replacing housings that are defective and a genuine safety issue.

that's because Jimny's carry bigger loads and do harder work than the LR's 0_0

Leroy.

[JamesB71]

Or perhaps because Land Rover has the worst customer service reputation for a reason. I love my 2013 90 but if I had it over I would consider the toyota. Practically every time Ive had to deal with a dealer or LRA, which is far too often for a new car, it has been a nightmare. Im dreading calling them next week about the loud grinding noise that just started in the back end when the vehicle is in motion....

[wally]

Or perhaps because Land Rover has the worst customer service reputation for a reason. I love my 2013 90 but if I had it over I would consider the toyota. Practically every time Ive had to deal with a dealer or LRA, which is far too often for a new car, it has been a nightmare. Im dreading calling them next week about the loud grinding noise that just started in the back end when the vehicle is in motion....

Funny. I've almost always had excellent service from Land Rover dealerships - in general far better than anything I've experienced from Toyota. It really just comes down to the difference between individual dealerships.

[iClick]

Interesting.. my front diff and TC were replaced two weeks ago and although it certainly is quieter, there's still a whine from the rear. It's going back in for a week soon to get a new roof so I'll press the issue then.

What's puzzling is that despite this safety recall being in effect since August 2014 - my dealer didn't pickup that my vehicle was one covered by the recall. It would've made more sense to replace the axle housing when they replaced the front diff. :(