NEW DISCOVERY TDV6

[discofans]

Hi,

Traded in my V8 Q7 for a Fuji white Disco4. It certainly takes a bit of time to get used to, but overall, a big step up in terms of comfort, driviability and fuel efficenicy.

Howerver, one minor thing I notice is that all the buttons inside the cabin does not illuminate in different colour to inform you if the door has been locked or not, particiluarly with the park brake. :confused: Has this been like this for all LR model? Another thing I am still puzzling in my mind is that should I be considering the extended warranty with a ticket price of 4k? What would be the common repair bill for this beast?

Glad to be part of the LR family and looking forward to a club ride.

Discofans

[BMKal]

Welcome to the club. I have often wondered how the D4 compares with the Audi.

You're correct - the buttons do not illuminate to show status - but you can see everything on the dash.

If any door in the D4 is not properly closed (including the tailgate), it will show up in the warning panel on the dash. Try selecting "drive" with the engine running while any door is still open and you'll soon hear and see the warning. Similarly, the park brake will show a red light on the dash when activated, & light goes out when park brake is released.

The doors will all automatically lock when you drive off (I think it's when you exceed 10km/hr).

[Roulston]

The key question about the value of extended warranty can only be answered through your own appetite for risk. I have signed contracts on a new D4 TDV6, same I expect as yours but Blue:-)

I have a five year lease and therefore the extended warranty was not a difficult choice for me. I couldn't imagine having to continue paying finance for a car I don't even own and have bug repair bill.

I have owned four LRs but only one form new. These are nicely built and built to last, but they are now so high tech that if they go wrong they are going to cost you.

You should get some competitive quotes because $4k sounds a little high for just two years, it usually is about $1k per year for a late model. And premium very depending on the level of cover and excess. Also check out the limitations if you plan on vey high kms per year as some limit the cover to 200,000 ams, which should only be an issue for an older car or a true road warrior doing 40,000 ams per year.

If you own the car out right, or will after year 3, then the risk is different and one might be prepared to bank (or save) $1k per year which would still not get you a new engine.

I think $4k is way to high for just two years.

Cheers, Tony

[LandyAndy]

Welcome to the club. I have often wondered how the D4 compares with the Audi.

You're correct - the buttons do not illuminate to show status - but you can see everything on the dash.

If any door in the D4 is not properly closed (including the tailgate), it will show up in the warning panel on the dash. Try selecting "drive" with the engine running while any door is still open and you'll soon hear and see the warning. Similarly, the park brake will show a red light on the dash when activated, & light goes out when park brake is released.

The doors will all automatically lock when you drive off (I think it's when you exceed 10km/hr).

Only when sold to people that live in Kal:p:p:p:p:p
Mine doesnt,pretty sure you can change the option on the dash.
Andrew

[nat_89]

Welcome to the forum and Disco club!! You will probably find the D4 a nicer car than the Q7 vastly more storage and practicality although the Audis are great the Discos just seem to do everything perfectly!!

As for the lights you get used to it and the park brake does light up on the dash as does the cruise control and various other things.

I haven't bothered with the extended warranty as i dont keep my cars long enough so depending on how long you plan on keeping it is weather its of value or not.

[DI5CO]

I think what discofans means is the lock button lights a different colour when the car is locked from inside. Standard colour when open, yellow when locked. It just makes it easier to see when driving if you have locked the door. Same with the handbrake, lights up yellow when it's on.
Dave

[discofans]

The key question about the value of extended warranty can only be answered through your own appetite for risk. I have signed contracts on a new D4 TDV6, same I expect as yours but Blue:-)

I have a five year lease and therefore the extended warranty was not a difficult choice for me. I couldn't imagine having to continue paying finance for a car I don't even own and have bug repair bill.

I have owned four LRs but only one form new. These are nicely built and built to last, but they are now so high tech that if they go wrong they are going to cost you.

You should get some competitive quotes because $4k sounds a little high for just two years, it usually is about $1k per year for a late model. And premium very depending on the level of cover and excess. Also check out the limitations if you plan on vey high kms per year as some limit the cover to 200,000 ams, which should only be an issue for an older car or a true road warrior doing 40,000 ams per year.

If you own the car out right, or will after year 3, then the risk is different and one might be prepared to bank (or save) $1k per year which would still not get you a new engine.

I think $4k is way to high for just two years.

Cheers, Tony



I have had 3 AUDIs one being a sport coupe with DSG , another 2L turbo charged A4 and also the Q7 that I traded in. I have had all sort of mechanical and electronic problems from DSG died at year 5, excessive engine oil consumption requiring a rebuild at year 4. Both of them would cost upwards of 7-8K but thankfully with good service history records, I managed to make a claim under the Audi "GOODWIN" program putting it into a "special" warranty claim.


Do you hear that kind of story at LR? Are they generous and considerate in negotiating repair bills?

[dukemasterpro]

I have had 3 AUDIs one being a sport coupe with DSG , another 2L turbo charged A4 and also the Q7 that I traded in. I have had all sort of mechanical and electronic problems from DSG died at year 5, excessive engine oil consumption requiring a rebuild at year 4. Both of them would cost upwards of 7-8K but thankfully with good service history records, I managed to make a claim under the Audi "GOODWIN" program putting it into a "special" warranty claim.


Do you hear that kind of story at LR? Are they generous and considerate in negotiating repair bills?


I'd get them to flex on the warranty price- everything as part of the deal is negotiable. I didn't take out the extended warranty at point of sale and found it hard to get any interest from the sales people to sell aftermarket when the warranty was up plus the price by that stage was firm.

Looking at the $4k cost now it seems like a bargain!
At 86000 km got told ABS system had a leak and caused secondary damage. Body off job to replace all at $8-10k. Before that had spent $1600 on new ride height compressor, $1500 on lower front control arm assembly ( this was fine till 60,000km but a long outback tour about 20,000km / 80% dirt took its toll ). There was also the brake switch replacement needed to solve a transmission fault and the premium nav / radio was on the fritz needing either a software upgrade ( I doubt this ) , new head unit or ECU, also been getting a battery power drain.
Upshot was I traded the car due to ABS issue but had fitted bull bar, winch and snorkel before the trip - new car bit still lost these but do consider worthwhile for the adventure we had.
If you plan to keep past the end of the factory warranty it's a no brainer given what can go wrong. I had 2 other LR's - D3, Sport which like the D4 were all fine in the first 3 years of ownership asides from small things like a battery or bushings.
Re: LR being sympathetic the most they have been able to help so far is with free diagnostics and reduced labour on the compressor install. For the rest it's all from your back pocket!

[AnD3rew]

On the warranty, since mine ran out two and a half years ago I have had to replace a compressor and an alternator, that's probably about $3k with labor. The alternator also took out a new battery with it worth $500 but I don't know if the extended wArranty would have covered that

[mowog]

I have just reached break even on the extended warranty and I have a few months to go.

[Roulston]

I have had 3 AUDIs one being a sport coupe with DSG , another 2L turbo charged A4 and also the Q7 that I traded in. I have had all sort of mechanical and electronic problems from DSG died at year 5, excessive engine oil consumption requiring a rebuild at year 4. Both of them would cost upwards of 7-8K but thankfully with good service history records, I managed to make a claim under the Audi "GOODWIN" program putting it into a "special" warranty claim.


Do you hear that kind of story at LR? Are they generous and considerate in negotiating repair bills?

I hear you. I think the issue is not one of engineering. No one wants to make a poor product and even cheap korean cars now have long life and matching warranties.

This is a customer management and sales relationship matter. You can take a view that once you have sold a car you have made your money. Or, which I suspect Audi do, realise that that one happy customer, even after a bad experience will translate into many indirect sales and repeat sales and loyalty.

I ma lucky, I have no issues with my LRs, early Disco 2, Defender and Freelander 2, enough of course to be very loyal and I don't see me ever buy another brand. Unless my new D4 turns out to be lemon.

Tony

[jonesy63]

Do you hear that kind of story at LR? Are they generous and considerate in negotiating repair bills?

When I had a D3, I reckon my warranty repair bill would probably be at the "top of the charts"! The second last replacement of the high pressure fuel pump was a $17,000 repair! Not sure of many other manufacturers that generous with warranty.

[jonesy63]

No one wants to make a poor product and even cheap korean cars now have long life and matching warranties.

Long warranties are one thing... getting approval for warranty is another. Kia and others are dreadful at actually fixing anything under warranty. Kia gives the dealer 30 minutes or similar to trouble shoot and they can't find the fault... so it is returned to the customer. :(

[Celtoid]

Guy's, it's been covered on many threads ... extended warranty is NOT a buyer consideration, regardless of what the salesman tells you!


You don't need to get it until the very last day of your original warranty and LR DO-NOT provide the best cover available!




Absolute fact!


Allianz cover both the LR offering and a product that covers lots of cars including LRs, which is far superior and better value for money than the deal LR offer as "their" extended warranty.


It isn't a warranty, it's an insurance policy .... anybody can arrange that but LR sell it as or infer that it's an LR product.


Absolute fact!




I took out the Allianz top end cover for my original D4 and it paid itself off easily. No pattern of failures, just one oil leak that trashed lots of parts. Other than that, it wouldn't have been needed. Sounds just like any other insurance policy doesn't it?


Give LR their due, they were very active in making sure the warranty was honoured and the car was fixed within a day or so.

[dukemasterpro]

Guy's, it's been covered on many threads ... extended warranty is NOT a buyer consideration, regardless of what the salesman tells you!


You don't need to get it until the very last day of your original warranty and LR DO-NOT provide the best cover available!




Absolute fact!


Allianz cover both the LR offering and a product that covers lots of cars including LRs, which is far superior and better value for money than the deal LR offer as "their" extended warranty.


It isn't a warranty, it's an insurance policy .... anybody can arrange that but LR sell it as or infer that it's an LR product.


Absolute fact!




I took out the Allianz top end cover for my original D4 and it paid itself off easily. No pattern of failures, just one oil leak that trashed lots of parts. Other than that, it wouldn't have been needed. Sounds just like any other insurance policy doesn't it?


Give LR their due, they were very active in making sure the warranty was honoured and the car was fixed within a day or so.


Yep took a red pen across both pds and almost identical in wording but different extra benefits ie the LR one has LR assist membership but for the additional cost you can purchase LR Assist or NRMA cheaper and still be ahead. Still think the garage want to offer the LR cheaper than the Allianz version anyhow. Boat docked at Kembla yesterday so not long now!

[Roulston]

I absolutely agree, these are just parts and labour insurance polices which is why you should shop around and like any other insurance policy, it is a risk management decision. If you can underwrite your own risk, then fine. Many policies have per event caps (and excess levies) which might not be enough to cover the full cost of a new engine, but definitely soften the blow.

Tony

[discofans]

Guy's, it's been covered on many threads ... extended warranty is NOT a buyer consideration, regardless of what the salesman tells you!


You don't need to get it until the very last day of your original warranty and LR DO-NOT provide the best cover available!




Absolute fact!


Allianz cover both the LR offering and a product that covers lots of cars including LRs, which is far superior and better value for money than the deal LR offer as "their" extended warranty.


It isn't a warranty, it's an insurance policy .... anybody can arrange that but LR sell it as or infer that it's an LR product.


Absolute fact!




I took out the Allianz top end cover for my original D4 and it paid itself off easily. No pattern of failures, just one oil leak that trashed lots of parts. Other than that, it wouldn't have been needed. Sounds just like any other insurance policy doesn't it?


Give LR their due, they were very active in making sure the warranty was honoured and the car was fixed within a day or so.



Thank you ! How do I know more information about this? Who do I talk to for a quote and get this PDS for my only information.

[Celtoid]

Thank you ! How do I know more information about this? Who do I talk to for a quote and get this PDS for my only information.


No problems mate.


There was a broker that had been used by lots of forum members, but she no longer deals with Allianz.


I'd ring Allianz directly. You may have to go through a broker but they should be able to point you in the right direction I'd imagine.


The product I believe is called "New Car Extended Warranty". It may have changed since this was a few years ago but Allianz should be able to help.


Cheers.

[Celtoid]

Yep took a red pen across both pds and almost identical in wording but different extra benefits ie the LR one has LR assist membership but for the additional cost you can purchase LR Assist or NRMA cheaper and still be ahead. Still think the garage want to offer the LR cheaper than the Allianz version anyhow. Boat docked at Kembla yesterday so not long now!




I may have confused the issue slightly ....

LR use an Allianz product. That same (or close enough) product was available from Allianz (bypassing LR) for significantly less money when I looked (~2yrs ago). I went through a broker.


However, neither the LR or Allianz policy are a full new car warranty, so it will not cover everything your original warranty did. I believe major components will still be covered, but I think even then there are some limitations ... in other words it's go to be really broke before they will fix it. Fittings and trim, for example will not. These items can still be pretty expensive. I can't remember the exact detail but there was quite a bit of difference .... or put another way, quite a lot was not covered by the Extended Warranty.


The point I'm trying to make is the fact that there is another Allianz product that is as close to a new car warranty as you are going to get. LR DO-NOT offer this product.


The long and the short of it ..... when I purchased this higher Allianz product it was around the same price as the lesser LR offering.


Hope that's clear.


Cheers.