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LandyAndy
16th October 2014, 08:47 PM
Hi Guys.
Im not really happy with 12 months/24000km for a first oil change.
On average at 12 months my D4 will have around 10000km on it.
Im considering sending it in for an early oil/filter/diesel filter change.Mainly because its new,dont mind the service interval after an initial early drop.
Any idea what dealers charge for a basic service like this???
What KM would people suggest???? 5000km??? on 3000km at the moment.
Andrew
Pedro_The_Swift
16th October 2014, 08:55 PM
yes well If I only changed my oil every 12 months I'd disown it too;):p
oh and by the way--
I'm in your back yard sometime in the next 6 months ;)
letherm
16th October 2014, 11:03 PM
Hi Andrew.
I had the 6 month service done as we do lots of small trips and I thought it would be a good idea to change the oil as well.  My bill was $563.56.  Can't put my hand to the invoice at the moment and hence can't confirm what else was done - sorry.
Martin
AndyG
17th October 2014, 04:24 AM
First change at 5000 made me happy, no science to it.
stikman
17th October 2014, 04:51 AM
I am looking to do the same Andy, early interim service for which I have been quoted $460 inc oil and filter. Extra $140 for wheel alignment, rotation and balance. Some other dealers quoted more and advised the interim service did not include an oil change so oil and filter was on top......not sure what the KMs will be when I get it done but looking early new year so probably 6000ish. I too am not keen on a full year on original oil.
Graeme
17th October 2014, 06:24 AM
Whilst I wanted the engine oil changed early but couldn't due to no oil in Oz at the time, I was more concerned to have diff oils changed early because of the gears used and the absence of filters. I didn't get the TC oil changed at the early service but had it changed at about half its scheduled change interval.
 
Edit: Actually non-DPF engine oil was available but LR only recommended DPF oil even though no DPF.  I've since changed to non-DPF oil.
BMKal
17th October 2014, 08:02 AM
Andrew - Barbagallo's recommends a 6 month "health check" where they go over everything and top up fluids etc.
I got them to change oils and filters etc when they did this, given what I use the vehicle for and the regular trips up to Kal. Think it cost me somewhere around the same as what Martin said. I can go back through the files if you want the details on what was done.
LGM
17th October 2014, 09:42 AM
Every 13000k whether it needs it or not! 
It is hard to break old habits I guess.
PAT303
17th October 2014, 09:51 AM
Andrew - Barbagallo's recommends a 6 month "health check" where they go over everything and top up fluids etc.
I got them to change oils and filters etc when they did this, given what I use the vehicle for and the regular trips up to Kal. Think it cost me somewhere around the same as what Martin said. I can go back through the files if you want the details on what was done.
My TDCi had one of these last week,$240.  Pat
nat_89
17th October 2014, 10:11 AM
Mine had a service sticker saying 3000kms when i first got it but i went to a different dealer as i was on holidays they did it and then said theres no service in the system for 3000kms so i dunno why it needed it but ahwell it got done.
What are the rest of the services done at i thought 26000kms if i remember correctly, took it for a service the other day and they have made the sticker in the window 14000kms after it got a service??
JamesH
20th October 2014, 10:09 AM
I asked about this and they really said it was not necessary as the engines were run in before installation and the oil was changed then. When it came to its second service I was at about 18000km and asked again if it would be done. I'd driven to Adelaide and back and thought it was time. I was on free services deal for first 3 and I was concerned they might not do it because they were paying for it but they told me they were going to do it and they do it at the major service as a matter of course.
Tombie
20th October 2014, 11:39 AM
Stop being paranoid Andy :cool:
Synthetics at 12 months / 10,000km wont be having an issue at all...
Damn, synthetics at 24,000km nowadays are going fine.
just get it done at 12,000km :cool: or 12 months
BobD
21st October 2014, 06:22 PM
Have a look at the service interval for arduous use and the definition of arduous use. Seems to me that city driving, towing, off road driving, driving in hot conditions and driving in dusty conditions are all arduous use and require more frequent servicing. Looks like just driving the car in Australia is arduous use to me! I think the EPB drums, for example, require servicing every day when driven off road, according to the service schedule.
I get mine serviced at Jorden Rovertech every 10,000km, or a bit more when touring. I usually do more than 10,000km in the two or three weeks we go touring every year, so I wait until I get back on those trips. 10,000km is about three or four months driving in my car. Before I got it the car was driven in Sydney and serviced every 24000km. Now coming up to 170,000 and the engine seems OK. Just uses too much fuel compared with others on here and always has since I have had it.
Bob
Graeme
21st October 2014, 06:43 PM
Just uses too much fuel compared with others on here and always has since I have had it.If your vehicle's consumption is realistic then perhaps the previous owner had the fuel consumption calc adjusted.  That was one of the first changes I did to mine when I got a Faultmate Extreme.
AndyG
21st October 2014, 08:18 PM
Stop being paranoid Andy :cool:
Synthetics at 12 months / 10,000km wont be having an issue at all...
Damn, synthetics at 24,000km nowadays are going fine.
just get it done at 12,000km :cool: or 12 months
So the new D90 gets it's first new oil at 20,000 ?
Tombie
21st October 2014, 09:42 PM
So the new D90 gets it's first new oil at 20,000 ?
Will get its service as per the schedule.
Tombie
21st October 2014, 09:50 PM
Just like the D4 which had its first oil change at 23k
Oil sampling showed the oil was fine and no wear elements out of spec.
I maintain my vehicles - I will not over service them for no good reason.
AndyG
23rd October 2014, 03:38 AM
It gets confusing for us without your technical expertise, or access to oil testing etc. the book says 20,000 for example, with the usual caveats, and then the dealer sticks on a label saying 10,000 . So we may waste some time & money to err on the side of caution, plus to get some assurance that bits are not falling off ex factory.
BobD
23rd October 2014, 10:38 AM
If your vehicle's consumption is realistic then perhaps the previous owner had the fuel consumption calc adjusted.  That was one of the first changes I did to mine when I got a Faultmate Extreme.
No, I'm talking about real consumption, not the reduced amount the computer tells me it is using. Also, with the 285 tyres I am running the odometer is now reading well under the distance actually travelled whereas the speedo is now exact. With stock tyres the speedo was out and the odo was exact. I have to adjust for the tyre size when calculating the fuel consumption but the computer is still telling me I am using much less fuel than is actually used.
Bob
Eric SDV6SE
23rd October 2014, 11:02 PM
Just had the MY11SDV6SE done last week after owning it for only 2 weeks, from the logbook it had not been done for about 10 months and at least 10,000kms since the last one. Plus we are also planning a 8000km touring trip next month.  I am planning to change engine oil every 6 months, being about 12000km, and TC's every year.   I think that's pretty much in line with LR requirements. 
Re cost, as part of the 90K service (total cost $465), the oil alone made up about $140 of that, plus filter and labour of course;).
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