D4 to 110

[chuck]

Recently sold my SDV6SE D4 which I was very happy with.

Stupidly drove past dealer today & there was a nice MY15 110 in stock that has the options I want and in my new budget.

I was thinking seriously about a Ranger Wildtrak

Any one gone from D4 to 110?

Particularly concerned about manual as I have not driven one for years (2.4D Hilux).

Would love some feedback & opinion.

[gusthedog]

Don't do it :D

Depends what you are after. If you want a truck, buy the defender. If you want a truck that drives like a car buy the ranger. The only downside to the ranger will be fuel usage loaded and slightly less off road ability compared to the defender. A ranger is bought with the head and the defender with the heart. ;)

[tonyci]

Hi Chuck
I am lucky enough to have a 110 and a D4. They are chalk and cheese. The D4 is easy to drive especially in the city, quite and extremely comfortable. The 110 is an icon hard to explain why but I love driving it, turning circle in the city is a bit ordinary. It is a very basic car.
The 110 is very good off road and makes a fantastic tourer. Re driving a manual its a bit like riding a bike you never forget.
Once you get the Defender bug it won't leave you, it has tons of character.
Enjoy.
Tony

[Michael2]

Will you look back in life and fondly recall that you once drove a Ranger? NO. Will your kids and grand children look back and fondly say that you drove a Defender? Yes.

You can only marry one woman, marry the one you love.
You can only drive one car (at a time), drive the one you love.

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[steane]

Had a Ranger for a week and they are nice but like most new cars you'll be bored with it inside 3 mths. Had a 90 for a week earlier this year and thinking about it still makes me smile. I'd prefer a 110 though.

No way I'd choose a Ranger or any other modern ute over a current model Defender, unless you actually needed a ute or the ancap rating was important to you.

[Wicks89]

When was the last time anyone said the words: "Cool Wildtrak"?



NEVER. If you want the MY15 Defender, get it before they cant be got any more!

[Photodude]

Will you look back in life and fondly recall that you once drove a Ranger? NO. Will your kids and grand children look back and fondly say that you drove a Defender? Yes.

You can only marry one woman, marry the one you love.
You can only drive one car (at a time), drive the one you love.

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Could not have said it any better.
I have gone from a D3 to a 2007 110. The only thing I regret is not doing it sooner.

[gusthedog]

Could not have said it any better.
I have gone from a D3 to a 2007 110. The only thing I regret is not doing it sooner.

That's funny - I went from an 04 110 to a 2000 D2 and feel exactly the same way ;)

But then I like aircon and airbags :D

[komaterpillar]

Don't do it :D

The only downside to the ranger will be fuel usage loaded and slightly less off road ability compared to the defender.

That should read WAAAAYY less off road ability than a defender. Had a 2 inch lifted ranger with muddies and factory rear diff lock following me at sundown national park on the weekend, wow what a piece of ****, places I crawled up second gear low range in my stock 110, the ranger was hitting with quite a bit of pace and still having quite a few attempts. I was pretty disappointed with the rangers performance, also had a 2014 challenger along with us and that was laughable

[weeds]

I was liking the work BT50 ( ranger) but the boys reckon it crap off road (Sand)........compared the to 20 odd hi-lux on the job.

It stopped engaging low range yesterday......air con compressor replace last service......it's only 2 years old.

[noogie]

Will you look back in life and fondly recall that you once drove a Ranger? NO. Will your kids and grand children look back and fondly say that you drove a Defender? Yes.

You can only marry one woman, marry the one you love.
You can only drive one car (at a time), drive the one you love.

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This sums it up perfectly!
Very well said.
I was a passenger in an auto GU pootrol the other day and out on the tracks and I couldn't wait to get out.

[jabber]

I brought my three year old daughter to preschool in my daily driver 110, the other day. She was standing in the window with a friend waving bye.... While doing that, I saw her point to the 110 and tell her friend... "that's my daddy's defender".

Couldn't wipe the smile off my face for the rest of the day.

I don't think that would happen with anything else.

[AndyG]

I have a new Defender in Bne and a Hilux in PNG, after coming back and hopping in the Hilux, my reaction was what is wrong with this POS, then I realized, no that's normal.

So upgrade while you can

[Steve223]

Went from a D3 to a 2006 110 and love it. Two very different cars though.... If you intend touring or going off road don't think there is no better car then a Defender (at least for me ;-)

[Pacemaker]

Your going to find it very hard to get a non biased opinion on this forum. However this forum is probably the most brand specific unbiased forum in existence.

That being said i am biased so BUY the DEFENDER!

I have gone from getting a brand new Nissan 4x4 every couple years for the past 8 years to no more new cars. I bought a 1995 110 Defender. I wish i did it a long time ago. I will never waste money on a new averagely capable 4x4 ever again.

If you love the look of the defender then buy it because if you dont every time you pass one you will think gosh they are cool. Wish i bought one. But saying that if you dont buy it this time it will only be a matter of time until you do.

Good luck.
Michael.

[chuck]

Well I test drove a MY15 today and was pretty impressed.

It would have been better with extended seat rails but I knew that.

Has anyone fitted reverse camera & sensors?

If so please enlighten.

Freeway car audio will do a double din alpine stereo/sat nav etc with rear camera, sensors & cruise control for about $3600.00.

How does cruise control work with a manual?

Was the traction control on the MY15 improved with the update of esc?

Thanks for the feedback to date.

[DBT]

How does cruise control work with a manual?

Brilliantly :cool:

Same as an auto, but with a cancel switch on the clutch as well as the brake.

If you climb hills with cruise on, and it can't hold speed, it will cancel itself before the revs get too low, as it can't gear down for you. However you'd have to be asleep at the wheel to not notice and take action before that happens.

[Photodude]

Went from a D3 to a 2006 110 and love it. Two very different cars though.... If you intend touring or going off road don't think there is no better car then a Defender (at least for me ;-)


Steve.
Me too. 2007 d3 to 2008 110.
Love it.
Kids do too.

[Photodude]

Well I test drove a MY15 today and was pretty impressed.



It would have been better with extended seat rails but I knew that.



Has anyone fitted reverse camera & sensors?



If so please enlighten.



Freeway car audio will do a double din alpine stereo/sat nav etc with rear camera, sensors & cruise control for about $3600.00.



How does cruise control work with a manual?



Was the traction control on the MY15 improved with the update of esc?



Thanks for the feedback to date.


I have a 2008 110.
Have upgraded the to double din and reverse camera.
Love it. 85977

[AndyG]

Extended seat rails from Mulgo / Expedition Centre
Hema 7 GPS has provision for reversing camera
DSC is separate to TC and does not change it's function as far as I can tell

[rangie ute on 38'']

My experience from a few months ago with a ford ranger offroad. Good power and factory locker, Bad over bonnet visibility,terrible departure angle,big box section tow bar hangs down like a plough. can't see your wheels or side steps out the window because of the bulgy sides which makes manoeuvring hard, I think that's made worst because the seating position is that real sunken armchair feel sort of like a patrol, unlike a 75 series or a defender but your comparing very different vehicles

[EastFreo]

Earlier this year I stumbled on an article which highlighted the end of the Defender was nigh!

It made me bring forward my long term plan to get one and sold my good Prado and then had a four month wait for it to get built and delivered.

Had it now for about a month and absolutely love it. Kids tell everyone about how cool the car is and the wife will even admit to liking it when she thinks I can't hear her!

Completely different to anything else in my eyes and you get used to it - even in the city. I drive into the centre of Perth every day and so far have managed without a reversing camera even though it would make life a bit easier.

[ProjectDirector]

With respect to reversing camera, I bought one for under $50 and installed myself, it includes guide lines too. Took me half hour to calibrate distance and works a treat.
Got it from http://www.rainbowlife.com.au/4-3-inch-tft-lcd-car-monitor-a01-car-rear-view-camera-e629.html
860348603586036

[AndyG]

Anyone know how the Reversing Camera connected ot a device like Hema 7 is triggered, do you press an icon, or is it linked to a reversing light somehow,
apologies if im hijacking the thread.

Oh, do the in dash GPS/Stereo support the 4WD maps you may wish to use ?

[chuck]

Guys

How much would you pay for the following defender:
110 5 seat Firenze red
black alloys
premium seats with partial leather
side steps
sun hatch

New in Victoria

Jus trying to see how much they will discount a new car.
I got $14k off my D4

Thanks

[AndyG]

Is it MY14 or MY15, MY15 will have the DSC button top left, could be a good bargaining chip, I got 3600 off my build to order MY15

[cinders]

Hi Chuck,
With the demise of the defender as we know it coming soon, the bargaining chip might be a bit hard to play if people are starting to wake up and realise if they want one it has to be now.
Anyway, like people have said, the defender has a soul. It will be yours, like a finger print, no one has the same.
Put it this way, when oil runs out and bio diesel is too expensive, I'll be doing the electric conversion.
Cheers and good luck

[Loubrey]

Anyone know how the Reversing Camera connected ot a device like Hema 7 is triggered, do you press an icon, or is it linked to a reversing light somehow,
apologies if im hijacking the thread.

Oh, do the in dash GPS/Stereo support the 4WD maps you may wish to use ?

Camera has a link to the reverse light - comes on automatically (if the unit is turned on obviously).

I have the same with my VMS and I found it cumbersome to the point of not bothering with it. The Nav unit is usually stored away from prying eyes and I can't be asked to clip it and plug it in every time I get in the car. I love it for its navigation, but the camera is a bit too gimmicky to be functional.

If you really want the camera I would go double din for the stereo with RC feature (like Photodude suggested) and a separate Nav unit like Hema or VMS for off road navigation (they both take add-on maps - I run 1:50,000 for most of the areas I frequent).

Cheers,

Lou

[AndyG]

Or back to plan A, which i did, install Bumperettes for touch parking :angel:

[voltron]

If my kids have to choose between travelling with myself or going with their mother in her BMW X6, they always choose me because they love the Defender. And both are girls aged 3 and 5. They play spot the Defender as we cruise around town. For whatever reason they both love the challenge of getting in and out on their own and slamming the doors hard to close them, climbing all over the checker plate on the bonnet starting on the bulbar and being able to stand up inside and hang from the roll cage ( when not moving of course. ). To them it's like a cubby house on wheels.

Wait until you change the suspension out and add a little weight. The vehicle becomes perfect.
My reverse camera hangs center above the rear door, I also have one down low near the tow bar. But the rear door one provides
much better info and many people comment on how good it is to have that camera there as opposed to down low.