D4 LEDs as daytime running lights via iidtool or other.

[wombathole]

I'd like to configure the headlight LEDs to be DRLs. I have a iidtool which can configure the actual headlights as DRLs, but they don't look nearly as cool as the LEDs.

Is there a way to configure just the LEDs as DRLs in either software or physical connection?

Thanks,Andy

[nat_89]

I do remember a post about this ages ago, I'm pretty sure it said something about changing the car country to a European country, something like Sweden i can't fully remember it. Maybe try searching for it.

[Graeme]

The other market specs still only use the headlight low beam as DRLs in my 2010 D4. However my signature LEDs aren't anywhere near bright enough to use as DRLs.

I attached some cheap LED drls to the bottom of the headlight assemblies to shine through the gap between the bull bar and the headlights but even those aren't nearly as visible as the headlights so were disconnected. I couldn't see the drls from 200 metres away on an overcast day so are useless. I'm still on the lookout for bright ones like those fitted as oem to Audis etc.

[tiddy]

The other market specs still only use the headlight low beam as DRLs in my 2010 D4. However my signature LEDs aren't anywhere near bright enough to use as DRLs.

I attached some cheap LED drls to the bottom of the headlight assemblies to shine through the gap between the bull bar and the headlights but even those aren't nearly as visible as the headlights so were disconnected. I couldn't see the drls from 200 metres away on an overcast day so are useless. I'm still on the lookout for bright ones like those fitted as oem to Audis etc.

The signature lights on our MY14 are as bright as the Audi or Grand Cherokee's, they must have changed them in this model, although as ours also has the xenon upgrade, that may also make a difference as well, but don't quote me on that..lol

[LandyAndy]

Tiddy,I have the same.
I think the daytime LED running lights are part of the xenon upgrade.Yes they are bright,and look great:cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[Graeme]

I think that brighter LEDs must have been fitted to later models because in early D4s the LEDs were only available in the bi-xenons and they are quite dim.

[LandyAndy]

They seem to have a low/high output that changes.
On Jeeps thiers turn off on the side with the indicator running,pretty sure ours go to low output.When you unlock they flash low and high too.
Andrew

[Graeme]

LR weren't on the ball enough when the first D4's lights were designed, in more ways than 1 it seems.

[SBD4]

The signature lights were never meant to be DRL's. There is a separate kit you can use VPLAV0066 it's expensive though.

:: Duckworth Land Rover Discovery 4 Lighting Accessories (http://www.duckworthparts.co.uk/landrover/accessories_dis4_Lighting.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/383.jpg

[Graeme]

The signature LEDs weren't even fitted to the halogen headlights!

The ones I fitted are only 3W each bank of 6. I see there are some at 1W each LED in banks of 6 or 8 that are still very cheap so mght try a set. I'd like banks of 4 x 3W LEDs but haven't found any yet, let alone at a cheap price.

[irondoc]

The Osram Led combination DRL and foglights are awesome. Expensive, but fit straight into the standard foglight spot and plug and play to some extent...

LEDriving FOG | Fog lights | OSRAM (http://www.osram.com.au/osram_au/news-and-knowledge/automotive-special/automotive-design-lamps---eye-catchers-with-that-stylish-look/automotive-lighting---stylish-and-trendy/fog-lights-retrofit-or-upgrade-to-led/ledriving-fog---led-fog-lights/index.jsp)

[Graeme]

Apart from using fog lights when not in fog being illegal and therefore not wanting a DRL whose shape could be interpretted as being a fog light, it seems to me that DRL and fog light patterns are mutually exclusive. Fogs have a wide spread whereas DRLs have a very forward-facing beam defined by ADRs that would be useless as fog lights.

[irondoc]

There are 2 separate lights in the same unit - DRL is a bright LED, fog light is a proper fog light with a low cut-off.

DRL is on with engine and turns off when parking lights (or headlights) come on like a proper DRL. The foglight part works with the original Discovery switch - it is brighter than the standard foglight.

cheers
Lucas

[gghaggis]

I couldn't see the drls from 200 metres away on an overcast day so are useless. I'm still on the lookout for bright ones like those fitted as oem to Audis etc.

These ones are fairly bright:

High Quality DRL Daytime Lights Front Daylight Lamps 5 LED Cree HQ V10 Ford III | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/311040993378)

Picture below is a sunny Perth morning - I certainly wouldn't want them any brighter!

Cheers,

Gordon

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/1053.jpg

[Graeme]

Thanks Gordon. I saw those a few days ago before getting distracted by the Hella LEDaytime 4/5 at a starting price of $130! I wondered how good the UK ones are, thinking they might be a reasonable compromise on price. I decided against $25 4/5 x 1W cheapies because they don't have reflectors.

My concern is being seen on long straight roads such as when crossing the Hay Plains where its easy to look past (not see) a closer vehicle. I might just get a set of those ones.

[Learner]

Hi Graeme,
Why is low beam in your situation not acceptable?
Best Wishes,
Peter
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[Lotz-A-Landies]

Just for information
ADR 76/00 specifies (amongst other things)
7. Intensity of Light
7.1 The intensity of the light emitted by each lamp shall be not less than 400 cd in the axis of reference.
7.3. The intensity of the light emitted shall not be more than 800 cd in any direction.
8. Illuminating Surface
The area of the illuminating surface shall be not less than 40 cm2

[The Fridster]

Lots of options I guess. I have used Narva 71910 DRLs which fit perfectly into the grill on the D4
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php't=209667

This post has gone a bit pear shaped sorry guys tried to attach some pics but not having any success.Not sure if the address above gets you there or not.

[Graeme]

Hi Graeme,
Why is low beam in your situation not acceptable?
Some of the DRLs I've seen are significantly brighter and therefore more visible than the bi-xenon low beam so for that reason and that the bi-xenon globes are quite expensive that inexpensive DRLs specifically designed for daytime visibility would be preferred. However I've found it hard to determine how close an approaching vehicle is when it has bright DRLs - much easier to tell when the vehicle's low beam is used. Therefore I'm content to keep using low beam for the moment.

[LGM]

Just had Osram DRL's fitted to my D4. These replace the standard fog light and provide both DRL's and a fog light separately but housed in the one fitting. These lights bolt straight onto the standard Fog Light mounting points. They meet all the criteria as advertised on Transport WA website for function etc. DRL's The Fog Light function remains as per the standard arrangement and from what I can tell (early days) is just as good if not better than the normal fog lights. Don't really get that much fog where I live.

I was a bit of a 'crash test dummy' for the instal and finding an 'ignition on' wire was not as simple as first thought. Anyhow job done.

I carry a print out of the Trpt WA docs with me just in case I get a curious, but uninformed inspection, if you know what I mean.:wasntme:

[Tombie]

Got a set of those winging their way here too...

[LGM]

Tombie,

Make sure your auto sparky has a good handle on the D4 wiring.

We found an 'ignition on' wire behind the pass side of the dash. I think it was one that runs to the rain sensor.

I also believe that the wiring is different if you have adaptive headlights?:o

Anyhow have fun:D

[Tombie]

Tombie,



Make sure your auto sparky has a good handle on the D4 wiring.



We found an 'ignition on' wire behind the pass side of the dash. I think it was one that runs to the rain sensor.



I also believe that the wiring is different if you have adaptive headlights?:o



Anyhow have fun:D


Thanks for the tip!

I've got a couple in the main fuses under the bonnet I use for ignition on work..

No need to go under dash. :)

[LandyAndy]

Look great.
Tombie have you seen the Narva "add a curcuit" fuses.Basically a fuse double adapter;);););) They come in both regular and mini fuse sizes.
Andrew

[Tombie]

Look great.
Tombie have you seen the Narva "add a curcuit" fuses.Basically a fuse double adapter;);););) They come in both regular and mini fuse sizes.
Andrew


I have a box full of them :)

[ytt105]

I have a box full of them :)

I did a couple of piggy backs on piggy backs with these and found they moved about too much on rough roads.

Maybe alright if these only one.

Regards

[Tombie]

I did a couple of piggy backs on piggy backs with these and found they moved about too much on rough roads.



Maybe alright if these only one.



Regards


Piggy back to a small Aux Fuse box if you need more!

[ytt105]

Piggy back to a small Aux Fuse box if you need more!

Excellent!!

Didn't think of that!

As they say, never too old...

[000DLS]

Just had Osram DRL's fitted to my D4.
I was a bit of a 'crash test dummy' for the instal and finding an 'ignition on' wire was not as simple as first thought. Anyhow job done.

ormed inspection, if you know what I mean.:wasntme:

Any chance you could share what wire was connect to what (Or a couple of photos?)

I just purchased a set for my 2012 D4 and will be self installing soon :)