WHEN IS 60cm not 60CM ?

[Roverlord off road spares]

Answer, it seems when buying a cook top!
Mum's cook top needs replacing it A 60CM job, but when you measure the actual cooktop top its over 60cms, it's 62cm. After shopping for a new replacement it seems some advertised as 60 cm are actually 58 cms. This also causes problems trying to replace as the cut out holes in the bench top are also different sizes depending on which 60cm cooktop you try to purchase. I went online and found install instructions for different 60cms cook tops opens up a can of worms some will fall through mum's existing bench top hole
You think there would be some standard, where 60cms means it's 60cms not over or under, over is not so much a problem but when a 60cms is undersize then it's not 60cms is it!

[Will Wallace]

As an ex chef, I have nothing but disdain for these twonks that design these things. It's all marketing BS!

Latest euro electro crap.

Rant begining.

Will.

[jimr1]

In some way's I was lucky in the fact that I grew in when imperial measurements were the standard , As a young Plumber in the UK the construction industry was one of the first to go over to SI. units . I never had a problem converting to metric . I am still very familiar with both , however I only ever use metric . This is where the problem lies ! Our industry uses mm. not cm. Why cm. is used is beyond me It is so confusing for so many people . As for tape measure's I will only buy them with mm. not cm.+ ft. and ins . Let me explain 1602 mm on a tape with mm is 1602 . Now if you have a tape that is in cm. 1602 cm is 1620 mm. there is a difference of 18mm so you can see It is easy to make a mistake for someone not familiar with both . Sometimes these mistakes can be very expensive !!.. cheers , Jim ..

[clubagreenie]

1602cm is 16020mm

[Redback]

You'll find that a 60CM cook top is the hole measurement that it sits in;)

Baz.

[Roverlord off road spares]

You'll find that a 60CM cook top is the hole measurement that it sits in;)

Baz.
AH, but if the overall top measurement on some is say only 58cm or (580mm) then it will fall through a 60cm (600mm) hole!
and checking the different tops manufacture's install instructions it has specs for hole size and they all are different so that is the problem

[Redback]

AH, but if the overall top measurement on some is say only 58cm or (580mm) then it will fall through a 60cm (600mm) hole!
and checking the different tops manufacture's install instructions it has specs for hole size and they all are different so that is the problem

Take a tape measure with you;)

[Roverlord off road spares]

In some way's I was lucky in the fact that I grew in when imperial measurements were the standard , As a young Plumber in the UK the construction industry was one of the first to go over to SI. units . I never had a problem converting to metric . I am still very familiar with both , however I only ever use metric . This is where the problem lies ! Our industry uses mm. not cm. Why cm. is used is beyond me It is so confusing for so many people . As for tape measure's I will only buy them with mm. not cm.+ ft. and ins . Let me explain 1602 mm on a tape with mm is 1602 . Now if you have a tape that is in cm. 1602 cm is 1620 mm. there is a difference of 18mm so you can see It is easy to make a mistake for someone not familiar with both . Sometimes these mistakes can be very expensive !!.. cheers , Jim ..

I think you did a typo, I think you mean 160cm is 1600mm (1 cm is 10mm , 1metre is 100 cm or 1000mm) The metric system works on 10s

[workingonit]

Guys, you don't understand...Jimr1 lives in an alternate universe where 1 cm to him is 1 mm to us. Just his conversion, 1620 divided by 1602, allows for expansion of the steel tape over a longer distance :)

[Ferret]

.... I never had a problem converting to metric...

I have some doubts about that :angel:.

[amtravic1]

It really annoys me when people talk in centimetres. As a young apprentice when metric was being introduced to the building industry we were taught that Australia was using the international standard of metres and millimetres. Centimetres do not exist!
I was at a meeting yesterday to sit in on a dispute between a friend who was trained as a carpet layer (and who works in centimetres) and a builder who was doing some work for him. $200,000 out door area, and the confusion being caused by the use of centimetres was quite disturbing at times.

[Don 130]

centimetres are only for dressmakers
Don.

[Roverlord off road spares]

centimetres are only for dressmakers
Don.
And Carpet layers

[Roverlord off road spares]

It really annoys me when people talk in centimetres. As a young apprentice when metric was being introduced to the building industry we were taught that Australia was using the international standard of metres and millimetres. Centimetres do not exist!
I was at a meeting yesterday to sit in on a dispute between a friend who was trained as a carpet layer (and who works in centimetres) and a builder who was doing some work for him. $200,000 out door area, and the confusion being caused by the use of centimetres was quite disturbing at times.
Carpet layers use Metres & Centimetres as the products are not as exacting as other materials as there is stretch in ther materials and an allowance is made for trimming in, millimetres would be too anal exacting and not necessary.
Where the confusion is when areas are worked out in Square metres, Carpet is usually sold in a Broadloom metre which is 3.66 mtres x 1 mtre ( 3660mm x 1000mm).
When I was in the trade there was always dispute on quantities as people working out square metres always came up with less quantity than needed for the job.
Example a room 3.00 metres x 3 metres = 9.00 Square metres.
Customers would then divide this by the metre of carpet off a roll which is 3.66 Square metres , So they think 9sq metres divided by 3.66 = 2.46metres They think they are going to by 2.46 sq metres of carpet. In actuall fact they will be purchasing 3.10 metres of carpet off the broadloom roll. This allows 10cm (100MM) for tucking in on smoothedge on wall skirtings and trimming in.
AS CARPET HAS A PILE / NAP DIRECTION, and the .6 of a metre off the side of the roll is waste, unless they were doing a more areas in the home and it could be used as a filler. It can not simply be joined on in a different direction to the existing pile of the length of carpet.
Unlike Tiles and other flooring which is sold in Sq metres.
It is also confusing that carpet shops now advertise a SQ metre price ( just for comparison to other flooring ) as you cannot purchase just 1 sq metre of carpet off a roll.

[jimr1]

In some way's I was lucky in the fact that I grew in when imperial measurements were the standard , As a young Plumber in the UK the construction industry was one of the first to go over to SI. units . I never had a problem converting to metric . I am still very familiar with both , however I only ever use metric . This is where the problem lies ! Our industry uses mm. not cm. Why cm. is used is beyond me It is so confusing for so many people . As for tape measure's I will only buy them with mm. not cm.+ ft. and ins . Let me explain 1602 mm on a tape with mm is 1602 . Now if you have a tape that is in cm. 1602 cm is 1620 mm. there is a difference of 18mm so you can see It is easy to make a mistake for someone not familiar with both . Sometimes these mistakes can be very expensive !!.. cheers , Jim ..
Gentlemen I stand corrected should have read 162cm =1620 mm. put It down to a senior moment . Thanks for your comments !!..

[jimr1]

I think you did a typo, I think you mean 160cm is 1600mm (1 cm is 10mm , 1metre is 100 cm or 1000mm) The metric system works on 10s
Thanks mate I had to check this for the sake of my own sanity . So I found the wife's tape , to have a look . The scale is cm. I looked at 160 on the scale then It continues from 1to9 before reaching 170, So the tape says 160 ,and 2 , get your tapes out and have a look , even though I know 162 cm +1620mm.

[KarlB]

Not to stray too far from the intent of this thread, but rather to make it very clear, the spelling of the SI distance units (and derived units) are metre, centimetre and millimetre. The unit symbols (they are not really abbreviations) (in the same order) are m, cm and mm. The units are never spelt with capitals letters, nor are any of the unit symbols. When writing these units, in-full or as symbols, there should always be a space between the numbers and the units. So no centimeters, MM, or 66cm, for example. There is also no such thing as a square metre, though this expression is often used. Much better to use the correct: metre squared or its symbol m².

Incidentally, metrication commenced in Australia in 1970 with the passing of the Metric Conversion Act which established that Australia would use SI units (abbreviated SI from French: Le Système International d'Unités). It was a staged process that was completed by 1988. Decimal currency was introduced in Australia some years earlier (1966).

Cheers
KarlB
:)