Does the number 5 trailer have to be reg'd?

[OneOneZero]

hi Guys,


bit of a general question, does the number 5 trailer have to be reg'd? or is it sufficient enough to have the same number plate as the Vehicle towing it? I was told it might n0t have to be reg'd because it falls within size limits in Vic. Thoughts?


Cheers

[Mick_Marsh]

I always thought they were too heavy (over 200kg empty).
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/registration/new-registration/exemptions-from-registration

What are their size and weight?

[LandroverScott]

Pretty sure Mick is correct, they weigh over 300kg from memory

regards
Scott

[Homestar]

In Vic, as mentioned - yes. Same as my itty bitty Sankey has to be because it actually has some decent steel in it and weighs over 200Kg. My little Sankey came in at over 400Kg empty. But for $24 a year, it's not the end of the world. It just needs working lights, a VIN or serial number that identifies it, and have roadworthy tyres and it will pass for rego.

And if you ever want to take it interstate you are already sorted. NSW doesn't take too kindly to Vic's with unregistered 6x4's in their state. Far easier just to have it registered.

[mick88]

Interestingly in those Vic Roads regulations it states may have "limited TAC cover"
A good reason to spend the thirty or forty bucks and have trailers registered.




Cheers, Mick.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

In Vic, as mentioned - yes. Same as my itty bitty Sankey has to be because it actually has some decent steel in it and weighs over 200Kg. My little Sankey came in at over 400Kg empty. But for $24 a year, it's not the end of the world. It just needs working lights, a VIN or serial number that identifies it, and have roadworthy tyres and it will pass for rego.

And if you ever want to take it interstate you are already sorted. NSW doesn't take too kindly to Vic's with unregistered 6x4's in their state. Far easier just to have it registered.IIRC the No5 are 370kg (making only 380kg legal payload).

The Sankey although shorter in the drawbar than the No5 have the significant advantage of brakes so can have a payload at least 500kg and probably more.

[Homestar]

IIRC the No5 are 370kg (making only 380kg legal payload).

The Sankey although shorter in the drawbar than the No5 have the significant advantage of brakes so can have a payload at least 500kg and probably more.

Yep, good for 750Kg in the back. Has a GVM of 1,150Kg. Not bad for its size. I've had about 1/2 tonne in mine and it was sitting pretty at that. :)

[FeatherWeightDriver]

And if you ever want to take it interstate you are already sorted. NSW doesn't take too kindly to Vic's with unregistered 6x4's in their state. Far easier just to have it registered.

Sadly, no general use trailer registration exemptions in NSW :mad:

[OneOneZero]

Thanks All,


I Figured it would be, I don't own one myself but I have a friend who owns one and is considering putting it on his club rego (same as his perente) which means I don't think I would be able to tow it behind my full reg'd Perente. Oh well, guess I'll just have to buy one!


Cheers

[Mick_Marsh]

How much is a trailer on club rego? It's under $60 on full.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I don't know about VicRoads rules, but in NSW the RMS has been very clear in specifying that a historic registered vehicle can tow any registered trailer whether it be full rego or, conditional or historic permit. The same goes for historic permit trailers being towed by vehicles on full or historic.

[mick88]

Sadly, no general use trailer registration exemptions in NSW :mad:




About twelve months back I actually emailed the SA and NSW vehicle registration authorities and enquired about towing a trailer with trailer exempt registration into their states and they both replied with similar answers. "Providing it meets the Vic Roads exempt criteria and it is behind a Victorian registered vehicle it is permitted".
I wanted to tow my trailer to into SA which I did.


More recently I contacted Vic Roads about trailers exempt of registration being towed behind a vehicle on Historic Registration. Spent for ever on the phone but eventually got an answer that it is permitted but they do not manufacture the exempt plates to suit. So either paint the number on or chalk it on. Registered trailers can be towed behind "H" registered vehicles too.


Cheers, Mick.

[Happy Travellers]

In Vic, as mentioned - yes. Same as my itty bitty Sankey has to be because it actually has some decent steel in it and weighs over 200Kg. My little Sankey came in at over 400Kg empty. But for $24 a year, it's not the end of the world. It just needs working lights, a VIN or serial number that identifies it, and have roadworthy tyres and it will pass for rego.

And if you ever want to take it interstate you are already sorted. NSW doesn't take too kindly to Vic's with unregistered 6x4's in their state. Far easier just to have it registered.
I didn't realise trailer rego was so cheap in Vic. Costs me $90 a year to register my #5 in Qld. If it wasn't so cold I'd move down there LOL.

[Mick_Marsh]

I didn't realise trailer rego was so cheap in Vic. Costs me $90 a year to register my #5 in Qld. If it wasn't so cold I'd move down there LOL.
It's not cheap, it's just more realistically priced.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

You wouldn't want to come to NSW, H plates on my No5 cost me $20/year. (except trailers now get G plates on HCRS)

[LandroverScott]

One of my N05's is on full rego as a "home made" (as they didn't know what Ordinancy factory was and it use is - farm trailer, $0/year is the rego fee. Been like this since 1996.

I have a tandem trailer that is on full rego as a farm trailer (looks just like a car trailer!) $0/year. rego'd this last year.

All you need to do is spend >$1m and get yourself a small farm and start saving money! Lol

[Mick_Marsh]

One of my N05's is on full rego as a "home made" (as they didn't know what Ordinancy factory was and it use is - farm trailer, $0/year is the rego fee. Been like this since 1996.

I have a tandem trailer that is on full rego as a farm trailer (looks just like a car trailer!) $0/year. rego'd this last year.

All you need to do is spend >$1m and get yourself a small farm and start saving money! Lol
Hmmmm..........
Would 21 acres constitute a farm?

[UncleHo]

I have just looked up the Queensland rego papers for my No5 which I have had since 1986,it reads: Year of Manufacture:1966, Make: Ordinance Factory,Model:ATM up to 1.02T Body Shape:Box Trailer,Vin/Chassis 1974,Tare:120, ATM: 750,Class:25,Purpose of use:Private. :)

For that I get the privilege of paying $92.55 per year :eek:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hmmmm..........
Would 21 acres constitute a farm?Are you producing anything on the "farm"?

Intensive agriculture, like market gardens, are often produced on properties less than 5 acres and are considered farms. The ATO/Centrelink assess property less than 5 acres as part of primary residence, but acreage greater than 5 acres is assessed as both an asset and land taxable (state). So at least 16 acres of your place falls under those categories. (If you plan to retire and get a pension, make sure you are below 5 acres at least five years before pension entitlement age.)

Note: I don't think old Land Rover 101s are considered produce! :D

[DT-P38]

Hmmmm..........
Would 21 acres constitute a farm?

Have you finally purchased me a cheap storage space? :D:D:D

[Mick_Marsh]

Have you finally purchased me a cheap storage space? :D:D:D
Funny you should say. Looking at a property now. Trying to get a bit of free time to look at it. Should have gone easter but looked at a lightweight instead.
What have you bought or are we talking about the Gypsy's.

[AndyG]

Are you producing anything on the "farm:D

Rust :wasntme: :p:p

[DT-P38]

Funny you should say. Looking at a property now. Trying to get a bit of free time to look at it. Should have gone easter but looked at a lightweight instead.
What have you bought or are we talking about the Gypsy's.

They are breeding!

[Mick_Marsh]

Oh, wow. I'll take one of them off your hands.
I'll pop in and collect it Sunday.

[DT-P38]

Oh, wow. I'll take one of them off your hands.
I'll pop in and collect it Sunday.

The shiny one in the front is a parts car. Most of its good/fresh bits are destined for the other two. It has a decent engine and ok drivetrain so might hang on to the left overs for a while. I really like the idea of cutting it a little and turning it into a tricky truck one day.

There is a beautiful late model silver one in the markets right now. I would give all 3 of mine over for it. You should seriously have a look at it.