MY14 Puma DSC

[Green Elephant]

Anyone know how it works? Does it just activate the abs, or more like the old disco sway bar thingamajiggies too?

[Loubrey]

Anyone know how it works? Does it just activate the abs, or more like the old disco sway bar thingamajiggies too?

I don't think the sway bars play any role other than what they've always done in limiting body sway/ roll in corners.

I would certainly imagine the DSC to be a refined version of the traction control system. The reaction time needs to be significantly quicker than that of the "ordinary" TC, but its unlikely to be a complete stand alone system.

Anyone seen a skid pan test video of a Defender with the new DSC system yet?

Cheers,

Lou

[AndyG]

And it will be MY15, specifically 070714 was the first build date, like mine:)

[Beery]

Anyone know how it works? Does it just activate the abs, or more like the old disco sway bar thingamajiggies too?

You're thinking of Active Cornering Enhancement in the series 2 Discoveries.
Defenders dont have that, just standard swaybars.
The DSC works via the ABS system, but has more sensors to monitor different vehicle conditions, such as g forces and steering angle. It can then control engine power and apply braking on appropriate wheels if it thinks things are getting out of hand.

Cheers
Tom

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[Tombie]

As Andy said MY15 models only...

Its part of the ABS/ECU and involves throttle and brake...

[FeatherWeightDriver]

I hope the MY15 DSC is less "agricultural" than the TC is on a MY14 Defender :angel:

[Tombie]

Never had a complaint about the old defender TC.. Worked brilliantly to the point I never fitted lockers.

Went everywhere..

Effective TC requires matches Pads and rotors or you don't get the bite it needs..

[Green Elephant]

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Thanks for the info guys! All my paperwork says 2014 Model. How can one confirm?

This is my 3rd Puma, and certainly the best yet - Must be a Tuesday build ;) I think I can feel the DSC kicking in over larger speed bumps, but cant see any lights on the dash like you do with TC.

Atleast it has a button to turn it off I suppose.

[Tombie]

Sounds like youre feeling ABS / TC kicking in...

DSC needs some scary throwing of the vehicle to kick in...

[FeatherWeightDriver]

TC will give you a light, when it fires; but ABS does not.

Don't have DSC so can't help with that one... ;)

[AndyG]

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Thanks for the info guys! All my paperwork says 2014 Model. How can one confirm?

This is my 3rd Puma, and certainly the best yet - Must be a Tuesday build ;) I think I can feel the DSC kicking in over larger speed bumps, but cant see any lights on the dash like you do with TC.

Atleast it has a button to turn it off I suppose.

The VIN number will tell you the year somehow. All my paperwork say MY14 as no ones computers were ready for a MY15 model in Sept 2014
and
http://www.clifton.nl/index.html?calvin.html
CalVIN, the Land Rover VIN CALculator

SALLDHMR7FA456336


SAL Manufacturer code: Land Rover
LD Model: Defender (for early models: Ninety, or One Ten)
H Wheel base: 110 inch
M Body type: 4-door station wagon (LWB)
R Engine type: Unknown engine type
7 Steering and transmission: Right-hand drive (RHD), 5-speed manual (LT85, LT77, LT77S, R380 or other)
F Model year: 1989
A Assembly location: Solihull, UK
456336 Serial number

Note F -= 1989 + 26 = 2015

[AndyG]

:)
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SALLDHMR7FA456336

WMI / VDS / VIS:

SAL / LDHMR7 / FA456336

Manufacturer:

Land Rover TATA UK

Brand:

Land Rover

Model:

Defender

Check:

7

Year:

2015

Sequential number:

56336

Extra information on the vehicle:
Status Not found
VIN: SALLDHMR7FA456336 Build date: 07-Jul-2014
Model: Defender / L316 Selling dealer: M7978
Model year: 2015 Warranty start date: 09-Sep-2014

Engine 2.2L 16V TC I4 DSL 122PS PUMA
CAB style STATION WAGON 5 DR
Series 5 DOOR STATION WAGON
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Transmission 6 SPD MAN TRANS-MT82 4WD
Colour SANTORINI BLACK
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PREMIUM PADDED CUBBY BOX
REAR STEP ASSEMBLY
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[islu51]

A critical part to the operation of the DSC is the Yaw Sensor on the bulkhead. This has been fitted to previous MY 2.2 Puma's before activation on MY15.

You can see it on this Defender2 thread.

DEFENDER2.NET - View topic - Stability Control on the "new" Defender (http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic26922-30.html)

[Green Elephant]

Thanks everyone, it checks out as a MY15 :D

And when I turn DSC off, I dont feel the "hesitation" from the speed bumps. (specifically the speed bumps on Gap Creek RD for the Brisbane based people)

Mystery solved :)