Rijidij wheel carrier and bumperettes

[loneranger]

I have Rijidij wheel carriers in transit for both the 90 and 110 at the moment and was looking at the Terrafirma bumperettes. I understand there can be issues with fitting various brands of bumperettes when you have a rear wheel carrier fitted as well as issues fitting to a 90 with rear mudflaps.

Are there any brands that will bolt straight on without any issues for both the rear wheel carrier and the 90 mudflaps?

From my research the Mulgo ones appear to be the only option for the wheel carrier.

[kogvos]

I haven't fitted the bumperettes yet (to my 90 with Rijidij carrier and mud flaps), but my conclusion is the same as yours... Mulgo jobbies appear to be the best option. I won't be fitting mine for a few weeks but I'll update my build thread once done.

[Aguy]

I am in the process of installing the Rijidij wheel carrier on my 90. I also have the Terrafirma bumperettes which I'll have to cut and reweld the right hand side one to make it fit next to the wheel carrier. At the time I was researching bumperettes, the only ones that would fit were the Mulgo ones. First four (or Shadow) did a set that had a shorter right hand one but it was only to fit a Mantec wheel carrier I think.

[dawsey]

I have wheel carrier on order from murray as well..he said he is busy this time of the year I'm in no rush..But looking at the pics I think you have a problem..Ive a 110 dual cab which Im sure has the same rear cross member.

[AndyG]

I have a rijidij carrier and mulgo bumper enters, no problems. Its a bit vague now, but consider carefully the adapter plates that are supplied with the bumperettes so it gets all aligned nicely, I think I managed to leave one out.
Sorry, can't help re the flaps

[Loubrey]

I have Rijidij wheel carriers in transit for both the 90 and 110 at the moment and was looking at the Terrafirma bumperettes. I understand there can be issues with fitting various brands of bumperettes when you have a rear wheel carrier fitted as well as issues fitting to a 90 with rear mudflaps.

Are there any brands that will bolt straight on without any issues for both the rear wheel carrier and the 90 mudflaps?

From my research the Mulgo ones appear to be the only option for the wheel carrier.

The situation is not too bad on the 110, but a biggish issue on the 90 with the Terrafirma Bumperettes without even considering the wheel carrier. They just don't work with the 90's OEM mudflaps, which is a bit daft because they come standard and I think the car looks bare without them (mudflaps that is). I do however personally prefer their look as they suit other accessories on my car, but I had to modify the mudflap brackets quite a bit to fit both.

Cheers,

Lou

[loneranger]

I think I might wait on the bumperettes for a while.

I've seen the Terrafirma ones on a 90 and I like the look. I need some convincing regarding the Mulgo ones. I'm not a big fan of checkerplate so I'm not sure how much I want to fit them.

[rijidij]

Hi all,
I'll just clarify why only certain bumperettes will fit with the wheel carrier.

The wheel carrier mounts to the chassis using these holes............
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/530.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Misc/Mounting-Holes_zps18e797fe.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/531.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Misc/Raw_zpsf578bc05.jpg.html)

The Mulgo Bumperette will fit as it only shares two holes with the carrier where they overlap..............
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/532.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Misc/mulgo-bumperette1_zpse0feb249.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/533.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Misc/Bump_zps5bb5d1e9.jpg.html)


Other bumperettes like this one overlap too much with the carrier. It would not be too difficult to modify these to fit, but it's a shame to cut, weld and re paint something that's brand new.
They would need to be cut down in length so they cleared the stub axle, and the mounting bracket relocated so it uses the outer two holes.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/534.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Misc/Terra_zps6a39cdec.jpg.html)


Hope that helps make things clearer.

Cheers, Murray

[Mjt084]

On a semi-related topic can someone help me out and tell me how far their spare now projects from the rear of the car after fitting the spare carrier? I'm interested in fitting one but have a very tight garage and can't bare to park the Defender out on the street just yet.

[kogvos]

On a semi-related topic can someone help me out and tell me how far their spare now projects from the rear of the car after fitting the spare carrier? I'm interested in fitting one but have a very tight garage and can't bare to park the Defender out on the street just yet.
Mine is 375 mm from the door to the limit of the tyre. I have standard 235/85 R16 on the Defender.

[loneranger]

Thanks Murray,

I guess if I end up fitting bumperettes they'll be the Mulgo ones then as I don't want to buy something and then have to cut them up especially considering the price.

Did anyone with a 90 who has fitted Mulgo bumperettes have any troubles with the mud flaps?

[loneranger]

Mine is 375 mm from the door to the limit of the tyre. I have standard 235/85 R16 on the Defender.

Can anyone with an iSi bike carrier confirm whether you have enough clearance with the wheel carrier. I have been looking at it for use both on the car and my camper trailer but my camper trailer spare sits out about 300mm and I haven't been able to get a clear answer from George as to whether it will fit.

[enchappo]

Sorry to revive an old(ish) post, but thought others might benefit from my recent experience. If anyone was considering buying the Terrafirma bumperettes for a 90 but was put off by the fact that they don't fit the Australian spec cars and you need to butcher the mudflap bracket to do it, then I can confirm that this is not the case for the TF bumperettes I bought from landybitz on ebay (not a promotion, and I have no affiliation with the seller).

These bumperettes have a cut out section in the horizontal protection plate to allow them to fit around the mudflap bracket, as per the photo below.


http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab99/njbchapman/TF%2090%20bumperette.jpg

This appears to be different to those bought direct from the UK (due to the different exhaust/mudflap arrangement there). You can see the lack of cut-out on the photo in this link Defender 90 Terrafirma Rear Bumper Corners P.O.A TF570 (http://www.johnrichardssurplus.co.uk/defender-90-terrafirma-rear-bumper-corners-p-o-a-tf570.html), which is the same as that on the Terrafirma online shop. Not sure if this is the same for all other UK sellers, but I suspect so. Would be a very east mod to do if you have bought/want to buy from the UK though.

Anyway, trickiest thing was getting the bolts through the tight angle between the rear cylindrical bar and the mounting bracket (and backing them out enough to insert into the holes in the rear crossmember). I chipped some powdercoat off the bumperette doing this. For mounting, you will need to remove and re-use the two existing bolts that anchor the seatbelt bar ? these go through the outermost supporting bracket. There is a crush tube there that may slip out of position when you remove them. Supplied bolts go through the inside mounting bracket holes into existing (empty) holes in the crossmember.

Much easier if you remove the mudflap bracket (with mudflap) before you fit them ? I fitted the LHS without doing this, but couldn't on the RHS.

Very solid bit of protection kit, and looks alright too I reckon:

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab99/njbchapman/Corner%20view.jpg

Nick

[Tombie]

Only issue with the cut out is it renders the side protection as useful as a Sore arse to a boundary rider.

They can now be knocked in easily to the side panel...

[enchappo]

Only issue with the cut out is it renders the side protection as useful as a Sore arse to a boundary rider.

They can now be knocked in easily to the side panel...

You got any pics of that happening Tombie? (serious question - would be interested to see)

I agree the cutout weakens it, but I still would have thought the force required to bend 20mm thick steel (the width of the folded section at the cutout) over a max distance of 100-135mm from the fulcrum would be pretty significant. And the situation in which you'd get an isolated lateral force only on the side face of the bumperette forward of the cutout would be pretty rare?

But would eat my words if others have found it to be a problem :(

[Tombie]

Never seen it happen. But easily done sliding into a rock...

Hopefully never happen!

And those "accidents" seem to happen at the most inopportune times.

[enchappo]

Yeah, fair point! Just hope it never happens

[TwoUp]

Fair point Tombie, however it may be better to have some rather than no protection, the damage would be worse without, I would think.

Regards,
PeterW

[DiscoMick]

On a semi-related topic can someone help me out and tell me how far their spare now projects from the rear of the car after fitting the spare carrier? I'm interested in fitting one but have a very tight garage and can't bare to park the Defender out on the street just yet.

Although I haven't actually measured it, mine with the Mantec does not appear to stick out any further than with the original mount.

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[lump_a_charcoal]

Are there any clearance issues with the dual wheel carriers/jerry can holders, and ladders with the Rijidij carriers?

[rijidij]

Are there any clearance issues with the dual wheel carriers/jerry can holders, and ladders with the Rijidij carriers?

It depends on which ladder and where they attach, some come down further than others.

This picture will give you an idea of the clearance, but let me know if you need more accurate measurements.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/378.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Wheel%20Carriers/Defender%20dual%20rear%20bar/Jerry-Side_zpshuiufmj7.jpg.html)

This type of ladder would fit, as long as it doesn't stick out too far at the bottom.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/379.jpg

One that sits higher like this would be no problem, and the dual carrier bar can be used as a step.

http://assets.config.landrover.com/v22b8r/lr/au/l316/accoly_au_l316_stc50417.jpg


Cheers, Murray

[lump_a_charcoal]

Great, that's the one I have.

Any chance of a group buy?

[rijidij]

I just measured the gap on my car so you can check for clearance. Approx 110mm from the panel to the jerry.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/376.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Wheel%20Carriers/Defender%20dual%20rear%20bar/Jerry-Side-3_zpsy8axathy.jpg.html)

[AndyG]

Murray,

Some time ago i think you posted a picture of a 2nd spare being carried piggy back on the first spare. Is this a viable option with your carrier. I could imagine the stresses would be severe, especially on a corrugated road.

regards
Andrew

[rijidij]

Murray,

Some time ago i think you posted a picture of a 2nd spare being carried piggy back on the first spare. Is this a viable option with your carrier. I could imagine the stresses would be severe, especially on a corrugated road.

regards
Andrew

G'day Andy,
Yes, I make a piggy back mount, see the pic below.
At this stage they've only been fitted to the single carriers for the option to carry an extra spare occasionally.
You're right, it's extra stress on everything, but the first one I built has been on a Defender for a few years now with no issues, and it's seen lots of outback corrugations.
Because of the tube size they don't work with late model alloy wheels with the smaller centre hole, but Boost alloys and steel wheels are ok.
You can only use it with a late model alloy by using an older wheel as the extra spare mounted on the inside. The newer wheel will go on the outer studs.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/373.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Wheel%20Carriers/Piggy%20back%20wheel%20carrier/Piggy-Back-Wheel-Mount_zps3076941e.jpg.html)