Wheel bearings

[Ean Austral]

Gday All,


Was checking the brake pads today and whilst I had each wheel off the ground I checked for play in each wheel by grabbing the top and bottom of the tyre and wiggling it.
The front passenger side had more play than what I would have expected.
Both rear wheel had a very small amount.
The front drivers side had 0 not even the smallest amount.


I have done the front lower arms a few years back, so I plan on checking the torque on the front passenger side main hub nut to see if I haven't tensioned it properly.


So my question is are they meant to have any play at all ?


I assume that you have to buy the hub assembly or are the bearings able to purchased.


Thanks and Cheers Ean

[Graeme]

No play in the new ones now fitted to mine and they're quiet too! The right one was considerably worse than the left - I expected the opposite.

[LandyAndy]

I wonder if lowering to accses height once parked causes alot of these suspension/wheel bearing issues(no pointing fingers at you Ean).I have been trying to hit lower on mine whilst still moving.Its a fair amount of stress on these components once parked/in park/handbrake on.
Just a thought.
Andrew

[~Rich~]

Gday All,


I assume that you have to buy the hub assembly or are the bearings able to purchased.


Thanks and Cheers Ean

You can only purchase the complete wheel bearing hub as a unit.

[Ean Austral]

I wonder if lowering to accses height once parked causes alot of these suspension/wheel bearing issues(no pointing fingers at you Ean).I have been trying to hit lower on mine whilst still moving.Its a fair amount of stress on these components once parked/in park/handbrake on.
Just a thought.
Andrew


Gday Andrew,


Ours always stays in normal height mode, would be lucky to be in access height 5 times since we have had the car.


I am wondering if I never tensioned it up correctly when I did the lower arms.


Cheers Ean

[LandyAndy]

I use mine all the time.Makes it easier for Deb to get in and out,plus its easier on the seat wear and tare not sliding in and out.
Andrew

[SBD4]

Ean, as Rich says, fronts are entire hub assembly but looks like the rears are able to have the bearings repalaced:

Front: LR014147 Hub Assembly
Rear: LR021939 Bearing kit

A good vid on replacing the front:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfg6dP2wLoo

[Ean Austral]

Thanks All,


So like always just had a quick look on ebay and there is a price range from $120 - $350 so looks like I will have some reading to do. Will do both as cant see the point in doing 1 and not the other.


I see there seems to be a bearing kit and complete hub available for the rears.


Cheers Ean

[nat_89]

I use mine all the time.Makes it easier for Deb to get in and out,plus its easier on the seat wear and tare not sliding in and out.
Andrew

I'll agree use access all the time makes it much easier just a habit pull up and hit access! Just makes it easier plus if I don't catches you out that but higher haha

[letherm]

I use mine all the time.Makes it easier for Deb to get in and out,plus its easier on the seat wear and tare not sliding in and out.
Andrew


Me too with my wife. I now just automatically put it into access height and if I think about it do it as I cross over the footpath from the road so half and half stationary or moving. No trouble so far after 17 months. I did read on a previous thread that it will wear out the compressor etc but figure I'd rather that happen under warranty hopefully. Then again I've always believed in Murphy's Law. :p

Martin

[Ean Austral]

Gday All,


Well done the front wheel hubs and bearings today. pretty simple job, pretty well as the you tube link a few posts back.


Took about 2 hours all up and seemed to drive well with no strange noise's or dash lights.


going to press the studs out the old hubs and use them for the D3 hubs getting made for the camper.


Cheers Ean

[Geedublya]

Which hub did you use Ean? There is a range available from $135 to $400.

The Timken ones appear to be all over $300.

My front left has a fair bit of play and will need doing ASAP. Hopefully the extended warranty plays fair this time.

[Graeme]

I fitted Timkins from Karcraft @ $350 ea.

[Ean Austral]

Which hub did you use Ean? There is a range available from $135 to $400.

The Timken ones appear to be all over $300.

My front left has a fair bit of play and will need doing ASAP. Hopefully the extended warranty plays fair this time.


I just went middle road, think they $180 each just got them off ebay, only 1 of mine was knackered so I have kept the good one in case and will have a play at the stuffed one and see whats involved in re-bearing it.


Reality is if they need doing again, I will be doing the job so was prepared to try the cheaper end of the scale.


Cheers Ean

[IvanR]

Re replacing the front wheel bearings in the housing. This is not an option as they appear to have been forged in. I attacked my with an angle grinder and still could not extract then.
Re the wheel studs. You will need to grind a grove in the bearing housing to get the head of the stud out.

Ivan

[Ean Austral]

Re replacing the front wheel bearings in the housing. This is not an option as they appear to have been forged in. I attacked my with an angle grinder and still could not extract then.
Re the wheel studs. You will need to grind a grove in the bearing housing to get the head of the stud out.

Ivan



No quite right, if you rotate the housing, there is 1 side that has a bigger grove than the others and you can get the studs out. I have already done it.


Cheers Ean

[Geedublya]

The good news is that Allianz agreed to replace the hub under the extended warranty. The bad news is that Altos didn't have it in stock and I have to wait until next week causing the postponement of my trip to Coffs for the weekend.

It would probably be OK however I didn't want to risk if for a 1000km plus trip. Warranty expires next month so I got a new bonnet switch as well, pity that my Hitachi compressor is still going strong.

[SBD4]

..... pity that my Hitachi compressor is still going strong.

up....down....up....down.....up ad infinitum!:D

[Graeme]

Warranty expires next month so I got a new bonnet switch as well, pity that my Hitachi compressor is still going strong.There was an update program to replace all D4 compresors. Have you checked TOPIx to see if its outstanding on your D4?

[Glynhouse]

Sorry to bring this one up again but I definitely have one very noisy rear wheel bearing !
Am in no position to do it myself and have 2 estimates to replace it, one for 6/7 hours the other for 2.75 hours, both bearings the same price.
Both places said it would not make any difference to get them both done together as they were individual jobs so cost x2.
Cost from $500 to $750 ?????, Per wheel.

Can't find any posts on the rears, plenty on the front bearings.

Help

DD.

Sorry. D3 TD. MY07

[Graeme]

I'd steer clear of the 6/7 hour place unless they're quoting the time for both sides.

Does the price include a wheel alignment as I expect it would be needed because I suspect the old bearing couldn't be extracted with the knuckle in-situ.

[Glynhouse]

I'd steer clear of the 6/7 hour place unless they're quoting the time for both sides.

Does the price include a wheel alignment as I expect it would be needed because I suspect the old bearing couldn't be extracted with the knuckle in-situ.

Good point, no one suggested a wheel alignment and yes the knuckle comes off to press.
Cheapest quote turns out to be the actual official dealer ? By quite a bit, but they don't have anything in stock and one of the independents has a bearing on the shelf and can do it on Friday so it's booked in there, he was not that much dearer, will ask about the alignment then, his personal car is a D3.

This has got very noisy very quickly, OK over 3 weeks but only around 250klms. If it started out bush doubt I would have got home, bit of a worry, no it has not stopped yet, but not prepared to keep using it, and I maintained a fleet of vehicles for quite a while in the N.T. so have a fair idea of mechanics and how long to trust something.

DD

[Graeme]

Yes, wheel bearings can sound a bit noisy for a long time but once they get loud they can spit the dummy quite quickly.