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nutgrass
19th May 2005, 03:22 PM
anyone had any experience with new style lights and upgrading them at all??
Just wondering how they handle heat output?
Who might have loom/globe kits?
Cheers
Nutgrass
sclarke
19th May 2005, 04:26 PM
Pirahna have wireing and light upgrade kits.
Why not make your own??
Steve
drivesafe
19th May 2005, 04:30 PM
Hi nutgrass, what is it that you actually want to do.
I’m in the process of getting a headlight wiring up grade project ready to post.
If you have any ideas or more importantly any questions and I’ll see what I can do to address them in the project.
Cheers
nutgrass
19th May 2005, 04:54 PM
Thanks Guys
Certainly could make my own, not a problem, but a little concerned about the ability of the lights/surrounds to handle the additional heat of higher wattage.
Basically just doing the deal on the disco now (couldn't really get a decent defender here) and haven't seen the lights closeup, just concerned that they might be a bit plasticy maybe.
Need to get low beam wattage/spread up as we do a lot of country miles.
Cheers
Slunnie
19th May 2005, 05:19 PM
If it helps at all, Ive been running 90/100's in my D2 for about 3 years now without drama. I'd assume (perhaps incorrectly) that the D2a headlights are a similar material and the looms are basically the same.
nutgrass
19th May 2005, 05:26 PM
a little expensive if they do go though
one_iota
19th May 2005, 05:46 PM
One thing to consider is whether your vehicle will comply with ADR and therefore Roadworthiness. A higher wattage set might not.
It's not something that is tested, in NSW at least, for annual registration (not yet anyway).
Just getting your existing lights to work at their optimum output might be improved with a loom upgrade alone and maybe also some improved output lamps like Osram 50+. This won't generate significant additional heat.
If you want more then additional spotties will help.
Have a look at the www.narva.com.au site for stuff they label their stuff according to ADR compliance.
I don't know about impacts on the system that might come with the more sophisticated electronics as I am driving second generation Fred Flintstone technology :wink: .
I guess you have been following this thread:
http://www.aulro.com/modules.php?name=Foru...iewtopic&t=4714 (http://www.aulro.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4714)
nutgrass
19th May 2005, 05:56 PM
Yes I have followed the thread mentioned.
Spotties not a problem, just the low beam issue.
will look at loom I think as had big gains with s2 disco previously
one_iota
19th May 2005, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by nutgrass
Yes I have followed the thread mentioned.
Spotties not a problem, just the low beam issue.
will look at loom I think as had big gains with s2 disco previously
Start with higher performance lamps then next the looms.
If you have access to a lux meter (~$40 at www.dse.com.au) and a wall at a measured constant distance and ambient light levels you can measure the before and after improvement at each stage.
DEFENDERZOOK
19th May 2005, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by one_iota+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(one_iota)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-nutgrass
Yes I have followed the thread mentioned.
Spotties not a problem, just the low beam issue.
will look at loom I think as had big gains with s2 disco previously
Start with higher performance lamps then next the looms.
If you have access to a lux meter (~$40 at www.dse.com.au) and a wall at a measured constant distance and ambient light levels you can measure the before and after improvement at each stage.[/b][/quote]
$48.64....i found it on their site..i gotta invest in one now...
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefro...duct/View/Q1367 (http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/428c8f63081f5db4273fc0a87f9c06f2/Product/View/Q1367)
nutgrass
20th May 2005, 06:39 AM
Thanks oneiota
Will give it go and feedback results when done
cheers
Nutgrass
drivesafe
20th May 2005, 07:48 AM
Hi nutgrass, I went through the headlight globe thingy about 18 months ago. I kept blowing the standard globes and was told to try the Narva globes.
Although heaps more expensive, there was no noticeable gain in light. Then one of my customers owns an Auto Barn store and had a 4by. He told me he tried a few type of globes and found the Phillips 55 watt Crystal Vision globes gave the best results and these globes, according to the spiel on the packet, put out the equivalent light power of 110 watts.
I tried a set and although there was some an improvement in light, I think it is down to the vehicle’s headlights in the first place.
I also tried the Phillips 55 watt globes in a set of IPF driving lights and the difference was instantly noticeable and it is WHITE light not bright yellow.
I bought the IPFs because everybody raved about them but I personally thought they were just ordinary. I had, for about 10 months, been running 130 watt globes prior to trying Phillips. After fitting the Phillips Crystal Vision, the IPF driving lights were great BUT I also run an additional 4 Hella 181s on the roof, on long night trips.
I had been using these Hellas for about 15 years and as a result of running 130 watt globes, the reflectors were all burnt.
So when I finally decided to make up the roof mounts for the Rangie, I bought 4 new Hella 181s and didn’t bother with the 100 watt globes that came with them, just fitted the Phillips. Talk about daylight, I have been using 10 of the phillips globes for 18 months now and not had to replace any of them.
In the last couple of days I have just done a quick trip to Moree and back. Most of the trip was at night and I can honestly say that I did not come across another vehicle, including all the interstate semis, that had anywhere near as much light and as for the ******* who like to drive with there fog lights on OH WHAT A FEELING and talk about stunned mullet. The beauty of hitting them with my driving lights is that they are so blinded and stunned that they don’t get time to turn their own driving lights on.
The road was littered with roos sun baking themselves and loads more off either side of the road waiting to join their ancestors.
The white light made them easier to see and seemed to keep them stunned long enough for me to get past them before they moved.
I personally think there is a bigger advantage in upgrading your headlight wiring first and then if there is no improvement, try the globes because there is not as much improvement in light by chnaging headlight globes as there is when you upgrading driving lights globes
Cheers
nutgrass
20th May 2005, 08:07 AM
Cheers drivesafe
Moree's an old stomping ground of mine some good sized roo's out that way.
Any link at all for philips globes at all????
Thanks
Nutty
AdrianLR
22nd May 2005, 06:41 PM
The Phillips globes are good. I had Plus 50s in the D2 and the light was whiter. There were slight shadows visible - not sure if these were from the globes, reflector or lens though.
A friend got the Pirahna loom in his D2 but it made very little visible difference (to the point that I recall he got his money back and plugged the old one back in).
I considered taking the globes with me when I traded up to the D2a but it doesn't use H4 globes (will stand corrected but that's what it looks like through the lenses). Anyway the clarity and focus is a lot better than the standard D2 so I haven't bothered.
I got the globes at an autoelectrician's (my brother-in-law!)
Adrian
drivesafe
22nd May 2005, 07:39 PM
Hi folks, shop around for the Phillips globes, there is a vast difference in prices, I paid $98 for the first set and then $50 for the next set, but my headlight globes are H7s and are not the same globes most of you will be running.
By the way, if anybody is planning on trying a headlight wire loom up grade, I have posted one in the Projects and Tutorials Section and the one loom will suite both positive and negative switched headlights.
I’ll go into more detail in the not to distant future.
Cheer
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