D4 HSE. Fyrlyt Nemesis installation advice please.

[Fred Nerk]

Since the bushfires early this year the kangaroos and deer have been looking for feed along the road verges. Now the daylight hours are reducing it is becoming even more hazardous to drive around my home area.

And so I have bought a pair of Nemesis with the fuses, cables and relays recommended by David at Fyrlyt. Before I get started on the installation, I thought there will be some tips that others can help me with.

Specifically for a D4, where have people installed the 12/24 volt transformers? Where is a good place to secure the two relays? Any other pitfalls to avoid?

I have an OL bull bar and have a nice driving light switch already fitted with my current, inadequate driving lights. I know I need to upgrade the power looms to 6mm.

All comments, pointers and photos etc appreciated. I'll let you know how I get on.

[letherm]

Hi.

I had my Fyrlyts fitted so I can't help that way but just in case you don't know there are wiring diagrams on the Fyrlyt website under the Tech heading.

Apologies if you're already aware of this. :)

P.S. I'm very happy with mine.

Martin

[nat_89]

Pics when done!! :p

[Fred Nerk]

Thanks, I have the wiring diagrams and happy with the circuitry and connections.

It is the location for securing the two 12/24 volt transformers that is my main issue. The relays will probably be fixed to the side engine bay panel in front of the OEM battery. I have a place there where some people put the Traxide isolator box. The two 40amp fuses will go near by. (My Traxide SC-80 is fixed to the front of the battery box)

@ letherm. Can you see where your two transformers are located? They need to be fairly near the lights, but secure and out of the way. A picture would be great.

I am hoping Tombie will chime in here. His posts have helped me decide on these lights.

I will take some photos of my installation as I do it.

[digger]

Talk to Tombie and Basil

theyve both got them on D4s

and love em..

[Tombie]

I will happily take some pics of my current level of install - tomorrow :)

[letherm]

Thanks, I have the wiring diagrams and happy with the circuitry and connections.

It is the location for securing the two 12/24 volt transformers that is my main issue. The relays will probably be fixed to the side engine bay panel in front of the OEM battery. I have a place there where some people put the Traxide isolator box. The two 40amp fuses will go near by. (My Traxide SC-80 is fixed to the front of the battery box)

@ letherm. Can you see where your two transformers are located? They need to be fairly near the lights, but secure and out of the way. A picture would be great.

I am hoping Tombie will chime in here. His posts have helped me decide on these lights.

I will take some photos of my installation as I do it.

Hi Fred.

Mine does not have transformers. I've got the 150w lights not the Nemesis. It has a 40 amp relay which is attached to the negative earth bolt near the battery. I couldn't see where the fuse was located - assume they put it in a spare slot with the other fuses - must check that out :) If you want pictures of the relay, wiring etc I can post them but you asked about transformers so presumed that was your need.

While I was out looking at my setup I could see a couple of things behind the grille which pops off easily enough. There is probably a spot there but I'll leave it to anyone who has one installed to better advise.

When I bought mine originally I contacted Fyrlyt and spoke to Paul who was very helpful. I reckon if you get stuck he would be able to help.

There was/were threads that I read at the time - about 16 months ago about the Fyrlyts so maybe a search might pick up something else.

Good luck with it.

Martin

[Fred Nerk]

Hello letherm and thankyou.

The Nemesis 9000 set-up is different and new since the previous threads. Each 250 watt, 24 volt light has its own connections to the battery, a separate 40 amp inline fuse and 40 amp relay and near each light there is a transformer to double the voltage. The two relays are controlled by one dash mounted switch. It is still a simple circuit, just two of everything and the transformers to accommodate.

[BMKal]

I have just installed a pair of Nemesis on mine.

My relays are all mounted in a clip together block and sit just behind the left headlight (down the side of the windscreen washer filler pipe). They used to be mounted on the side of the engine bay just in front of the fuse box - but there is now a Traxide DBS installed and the new battery resides there.

I have mounted the 12/24V transformers under the body cross member beneath the radiator - in behind the bulbar. Can't easily get photos of this without taking the centre bash plate off the bulbar unfortunately.

I've seen Tombie's installation and it looks good - I just didn't think I'd have the room to install in the same location and couldn't find a suitable bracket to use for this.

[Tombie]

Havent forgotten you Fred, just 4 more short hours and I will be out of work today and snapping some pictures :cool:

[LandyAndy]

Tombie.
Is the wiring for the Nemisis a direct swap for standard Fyrlyts????
I have a Territory Turbo that would like a set of standard Fyrlyts;););););););)
Andrew

[Tombie]

Ok, it's hard to see...

I fitted one of these battery trays and mounted a plate on the left hand side.

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I then made a quick bracket using some angle alloy and bolted the 2 units on.

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Between the plate and the battery is 2 relays - 1 per light.

Wiring goes:
Battery to relay 1 & 2
Relays to + input on each transformer
Earth to stud just in front of air box
Then
+ output to light
- output to light

I used power poles to connect everything...

[Basil135]

Fred,

If you get stuck, I can probably give you a hand, but it wont be until next week.

Unless, you would like to ring my wife, shed a few tears down the phone, and get me out of a whole weekend of Irish Dancing... :angel:

[letherm]

Tombie.
Is the wiring for the Nemisis a direct swap for standard Fyrlyts????
I have a Territory Turbo that would like a set of standard Fyrlyts;););););););)
Andrew

Hi Andy.

I'm no expert but if you look at the pdf's provided on the Fyrlyt website under the Tech heading I think you'll find that they are quite different.

Here's a link to the page.

TECH - FYRLYT Driving Lights (http://fyrlyt.com/tech/4575783888)

Martin

[letherm]

Fred,

Unless, you would like to ring my wife, shed a few tears down the phone, and get me out of a whole weekend of Irish Dancing... :angel:


Just what did you do to rate that penance ? :D:D

Martin

[Fred Nerk]

Many thanks Tombie. I have a bit more space than you, since I have my second battery mounted in the rear of the car. I agree with you that it must be better to use one of the earth posts rather than the negative battery terminal (as in the circuit diagram). I will make a bracket to support the transformers too unless I can find a nice flat place.

Now Basil135: It is kind of you to offer to help, but your wife rang earlier and said you were too busy. :angel: I hope you enjoy your dancing.

[BigJon]

I mounted the transformers on either side of the radiator in my Vogue. There were two spots seemingly custom made for the install. I didn't even have to drill holes! I would assume a D4 is different though. You are welcome to have a look at a convenient time if it helps.

[Fred Nerk]

Thanks everyone.

I checked out the possibility of installing the transformers near the radiator, but there are no gaps suitable in a D4.

The transformers each measure 80mm x 140mm x 50mm which doesn't seem much until you try to find two big enough places to accommodate them. I reckon I've sorted it now though.

I have worked out a simple bracket design and found a place to secure it. I will source the materials and get cracking this weekend. Camera at the ready.

[Fred Nerk]

Lights installed and working beautifully. First flick of the switch. :D


These lights are bright. Colour is excellent. Really does make it seem like day time out there in front of the car. I will play around with the spread/spot settings and work on the alignment, but really they are pretty good already.


It is still dark under the bonnet so I will defer the pictures of my handiwork 'til tomorrow. Installation went pretty well even if I say so myself. :cool:

[Fred Nerk]

Here we are. Pictures of how I installed my Fyrlyt Nemesis 9000. Total cost was about a dozen beers less than $1000. The lights are cheaper retail than advertised at the Fyrlyt webpage.


The key to my installation is this bracket which I drilled so that I could mount the two transformers and the relays as compactly as possible. These are available at hardware shops. The dimensions are on the label.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1356.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0094.jpg.html)


Here are the transformers and the little supports for the two relays all bolted to the bracket.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1357.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0095.jpg.html)


This shows the bracket, the transformers and the relays secured to the left side of the engine bay in front of the battery box. [The SC80 is part of my rear Andersen plug, rear 2nd battery setup as per Traxide and is nothing to do with the Nemesis.]


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1358.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0100.jpg.html)


Now, looking from the right to show the relays and the wiring. I have used heavier wiring than the 6mm recommended for all of the 12 volt connections. I used the supplied 6mm wires for the 24volt connections. I know it looks like spaghetti, but the wiring diagram is easy to follow and it is made to look complex because there is two of everything. A completely separate circuit for each light.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1359.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0107.jpg.html)


A view from the front again with the battery box lid off to reveal the two 40amp inline fuses.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1360.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0108.jpg.html)


This is my light switch cluster. The driving light switch has been reused from my old spotties. (It is quite a nice switch and it looks like it is OEM)


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1361.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0104.jpg.html)


This is to show that I followed the instructions and have used a torque wrench to set the clamp at the correct tension. It is actually much tighter than an Allen Key could achieve.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1362.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0105.jpg.html)


Final install completed.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1363.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0110.jpg.html)


I hope this is of some use to anyone looking to install these fantastic lights in a Discovery. The idea may help others too.
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[nat_89]

Here we are. Pictures of how I installed my Fyrlyt Nemesis 9000. Total cost was about a dozen beers less that $1000. The lights are cheaper retail than advertised at the Fyrlyt webpage.


The key to my installation is this bracket which I drilled so that I could mount the two transformers and the relays as compactly as possible. These are available at hardware shops. The dimensions are on the label.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1356.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0094.jpg.html)


Here are the transformers and the little supports for the two relays all bolted to the bracket.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1357.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0095.jpg.html)


This shows the bracket, the transformers and the relays secured to the left side of the engine bay in front of the battery box. [The SC80 is part of my rear Andersen plug, rear 2nd battery setup as per Traxide and is nothing to do with the Nemesis.]


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1358.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0100.jpg.html)


Now, looking from the right to show the relays and the wiring. I have used heavier wiring than the 6mm recommended for some of the connections. I know it looks like spaghetti, but the wiring diagram is easy to follow and it is made to look complex because there is two of everything. A completely separate circuit for each light.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1359.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0107.jpg.html)


A view from the front again with the battery box lid off to reveal the two 40amp inline fuses.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1360.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0108.jpg.html)


This is my light switch cluster. The driving light switch has been reused from my old spotties. (It is quite a nice switch and it looks like it is OEM)


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1361.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0104.jpg.html)


This is to show that I followed the instructions and have used a torque wrench to set the clamp at the correct tension. It is actually much tighter than an Allen Key could achieve.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1362.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0105.jpg.html)


Final install completed.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1363.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/DSC_0110.jpg.html)


I hope this is of some use to anyone looking to install these fantastic lights in a Discovery. The idea may help others too.
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Bloody beautiful job well done looks great!!!

[Basil135]

Top job. Well done.

As for aiming, have you heard of the term "point & shoot"?

Provided the lights are pointing forward, that is pretty much all you need to do with them. Gone are the days of finding a great big stretch of dark road, and hoping no-one comes along while you are trying to set your spotties.

And you will love how easy they are to swap from spot to spread beam.. ;)

[Tombie]

Nicely installed mate!

Enjoy...

I spent hours behind mine again Friday night..
It's great to dip and not have any vision delay.

And then to strike them up and the world lights up!

[BigJon]

Looking good. My only suggestion / concern would be to mount the relays vertically, not horizontally as they appear to be. In the past I have had trouble with water ingress and relays jamming on when mounted horizontally.

[Fred Nerk]

Thanks BigJon, I was wondering about possible problems with mounting the relays on their sides. In my ignorance I assumed it would be ok. I will see how they go for now. If they develop a problem or misbehave I will work out a way to reorient their replacements.

I have been driving in the hills tonight and have seen so much more wildlife....I have slowed down. Seriously, I could not be happier.

[Fred Nerk]

Throughout the thread above I have mistakenly referred to the two "transformers". I have since been educated (thanks Dad) that transformers are an alternating current device. The two devices I have installed are accurately referred to in the Fyrlyt instructions as "converters".

I apologise for this error. How did the (other) pedants let me get away with the mistake?

PS @ BigJon:
David at Fyrlyt agrees that the relays should be installed up the right way to reduce the risk from water / moisture damage. To do this easily, a slightly longer bracket would be appropriate. I will make the modification when I next get some play time in the shed.

[Graeme]

Step-up transformers - convert DC to AC using an oscillator (inverter), transformer to step up the AC voltage then these may or or may not convert AC back to DC (rectifier).

[Jock McD]

Fred, many thanks for your informative posts. Am keen to fit these to my D4 in the not too distant future. Just one question, as a fellow Adelaidean did you buy the lights locally? If so where? Cheers, Jock.

[Basil135]

Fred, many thanks for your informative posts. Am keen to fit these to my D4 in the not too distant future. Just one question, as a fellow Adelaidean did you buy the lights locally? If so where? Cheers, Jock.

Hi Jock,

Ring Fyrlyt direct, and speak to Paul or David. I am not 100%, but I am fairly sure you can buy direct from them.

If not, they will point you in the direction of a re-seller.

And, if you want a hand to install these little beauties, give me a yell.

;)

[BMKal]

I bought mine direct - dealt with Paul over the phone. ;)

[BigJon]

Fred, many thanks for your informative posts. Am keen to fit these to my D4 in the not too distant future. Just one question, as a fellow Adelaidean did you buy the lights locally? If so where? Cheers, Jock.

These people are friends of mine and are able to sell you a set.

Rock 4x4 Accessories - Rock 4x4 Accessories/home (http://www.rock4x4.com.au/)

[Fred Nerk]

I bought the pair of lights along with some of the other miscellaneous bits from Home of 12 Volt, North. Their price was as good as any. They have all the other stuff you need such as the fuses and fuse holders. I bought the relays at REPCO since I forgot them on the day I was at Home of 12 Volt. The bracket, the nuts and bolts came from Bunnings.