Rear Door Lock

[Shortie]

Hi Guys


My rear door lock doesn't want to play anymore. When I put the key in, it turns but doesn't lock or unlock, same when I move the little "thingie" on the interior.


Do I want to pull it apart and see if I can fix it or will twenty million bits fly out that I will never know how to put them back or do I just get a replacement lock?


Thanks Ellen

[LandyAndy]

Hi Ellen.
This thread is off to Defenderland.
Hope they can sort you out there;);););)
Andrew

[jimr1]

Hi Guys


My rear door lock doesn't want to play anymore. When I put the key in, it turns but doesn't lock or unlock, same when I move the little "thingie" on the interior.


Do I want to pull it apart and see if I can fix it or will twenty million bits fly out that I will never know how to put them back or do I just get a replacement lock?


Thanks Ellen
Ellen the spring has jumped off or snapped . To fix It you do have to take the lock off , It is held together by rivets , by memory about 5 . they have to be drilled out . There very simple inside . you can buy kits to repair them on ebay uk including new rivet's . It's not a big job , just a bit fiddly , maybe some one can help you , you will need a drill +3/16 drill bit , a set of pop pliers , plus screw drivers . It worth thinkging about . A lot cheaper than a new lock , plus you still have to take the old lock ,to fit the new one !!.. Jim

[jimb]

I have the opposite. The central locking will not UNLOCK. The rear door on Puma 110, but will lock. Luckily using the key in the lock does unlock the rear door.

[chook73]

I have the opposite. The central locking will not UNLOCK. The rear door on Puma 110, but will lock. Luckily using the key in the lock does unlock the rear door.

This happened to me, just pop off the trim and give it a belt with some silicone spray or the like around the locking mechanism. Worked so well I did it to all of the doors.

[jimb]

Yeah right. Thanks heaps, I'll get onto it tomorrow because it's a pain.

[Bushie]

If you've been in dust - take the lock etc off the door and give it a good wash in water, then try it again. For something in the rear of a 4WD they sure don't like dust.
(by my experience anyway)


Martyn

[Shortie]

I have the opposite. The central locking will not UNLOCK. The rear door on Puma 110, but will lock. Luckily using the key in the lock does unlock the rear door.
:confused: Central locking what's that?

[jimr1]

Hi Guys


My rear door lock doesn't want to play anymore. When I put the key in, it turns but doesn't lock or unlock, same when I move the little "thingie" on the interior.


Do I want to pull it apart and see if I can fix it or will twenty million bits fly out that I will never know how to put them back or do I just get a replacement lock?


Thanks Ellen
Hi Ellen Something that I didn't mention , if you buy a new latch/lock , not sure If they come with , a new key . It's better if you dont have extra/ different key's !!.. Jim .

[Brett1066]

Hi Ellen, met you down thornlie shops the other day. I've had the same problem with my back door for a while now (read while = years). If you are not in a mad rush, I will look at getting a repair kit for mine and do mine as a test run and if all goes well am more than happy to help you get yours sorted. Unfortunately I am tied up for the next couple of weeks, but should have all the tools needed if you need to borrow anything in the meantime.

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[Brett1066]

Have ordered a repair kit, if you can call it that, consists of a spring and some rivets, will let you know how I go when it arrives and I get the time to attempt it.

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[Shortie]

Have ordered a repair kit, if you can call it that, consists of a spring and some rivets, will let you know how I go when it arrives and I get the time to attempt it.

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Thanks Brett
It looks easier enough, its just having the tool to replace the monster rivets that is my problem. Ellen

[Shortie]

Hi Ellen Something that I didn't mention , if you buy a new latch/lock , not sure If they come with , a new key . It's better if you dont have extra/ different key's !!.. Jim .
Thanks, I have seen the price of a new latch/lock and I don't like that idea anymore :( a bit pricey

[jimr1]

Thanks Brett
It looks easier enough, its just having the tool to replace the monster rivets that is my problem. Ellen
Ellen do you know any Plumbers , they all have pop rivet pliers , or any one that might have some . If you get it ready any Plumber will snap a few rivets in for you . That will save you buying pliers for such a small job !!.. Jim

[Brett1066]

I have pop rivet pliers here, can do up to about a 3mm diameter rivet, welcome to borrow these if they are big enough

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[schuy1]

Not a good idea to use an oil type spray on the rear door locks as it will only double the trouble by holding more dirt/dust in the workings :( Treat them mean and leave them clean! :) If you have to use the air compressor to blow them clean every time you do dirt road. Thats all I have ever done with the Disco and the doors on the deefer.
Cheers Scott

[Brett1066]

Thanks Brett
It looks easier enough, its just having the tool to replace the monster rivets that is my problem. Ellen

My repair kit arrived, might try and do it this weekend if I get time. The rivets fit in my rivet pliers, so if you need to borrow them for yours just yell

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[Brett1066]

Finally got round to trying to fix my back door lock on the weekend, replacing the little spring wasnt as fiddly as I expected, got it all back together and it still doesnt lock :banghead: guessing it is something to do with the lock barrel but not sure. But, if the problem was only the spring then its not too bad a job, shame mine wasn't that simple.
Probably be another six months before I get motivated enough to try and solve the problem :) hell havent been able to lock the back door for several years now, what's a few more months? :):)

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[Shortie]

Doh! I'm hoping to have a go at mine tomorrow :unsure:

[jimr1]

Doh! I'm hoping to have a go at mine tomorrow :unsure:
Good luck , It's not so hard , let us knowhow you get on !!..

[scottygc]

hi mine regularly doesn't lock ,I just hit it with a little silicone spray and all good for another 6 months

[Eeny]

my MY13 110 has the issue of the rear door refusing to unlock with the remote, but unlocks with a key turn. I will ask for warranty fix on next service - but now the lever is getting really stiff to lift up, so i'll get LR to check also.

Recently I thought i'd check if my vehicle was locked when I thought it was. I tried the right passenger door. It opened! The alarm started blaring because it thought it was locked. The problem for me was the keys weren't anywhere near. The alarm aggravated a few people until I finally located the keys.

Seems like an actuator or solenoid thingy might have packed it in or loose wire - another fix from LR on next service

I can't be Robinson Crusoe here, so it could be worth checking to see if all doors lock on your vehicle when they are supposed to lock with the remote.

Eeny

In all other regards, I'm very happy with the vehicle.

[numpty]

My rear door wouldn't lock with the central locking recently, but after locking and unlocking with the key a couple of times it now works again.

The rear drivers door however, will not lock due to something faulty, so I just lock it from the inside.

[Shortie]

Well that was harder than it needed to be. Finally thought I'd have some spare time at Mums today, so packed up my tools in anticipation. Removed the lock and was about to start drilling when I thought I might just check the instructions that came with the spring....la la the spring was still sitting on my kitchen table, so I asked Mum nicely if she would sit in the back and hold the door shut while I drove home to get the spring and she said no, she was going to have a nana nap, she is so selfish sometimes :D So I'm fitting the lock back on when I could hear her locking the back door to the house, luckily she doesn't move too fast and I managed to bash on the door before she was out of screaming range. Raced home and grabbed the spring, then removed the lock again. Drilled out the rivets and emptied half a bucket of red dust from inside the unit, did the fiddley bit trying to shove and then gently stick the spring in, eventually managed that and got it stuck it all back together. Then nearly broke my wrist using the rivet gun and of course the whole thing dropped to the floor and fell apart :eek: so rebuilt it and had another go, my rivets look a bit dodgy but hold it together. Fitted it back on the door and turn the key, then turn the key again, then again to be sure and blimey the thing locks and unlocks :cool: :cool: :cool: just like a shop one

[Brett1066]

Glad you had more luck with your lock than I did. And only half a bucket of red dust.....I thought there was almost half the pilbara in mine :):) Car hasnt been back in the pilbara in 5 years and I'm still finding deposits of red dust in various places....
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[DiscoMick]

my MY13 110 has the issue of the rear door refusing to unlock with the remote, but unlocks with a key turn. I will ask for warranty fix on next service - but now the lever is getting really stiff to lift up, so i'll get LR to check also.

Recently I thought i'd check if my vehicle was locked when I thought it was. I tried the right passenger door. It opened! The alarm started blaring because it thought it was locked. The problem for me was the keys weren't anywhere near. The alarm aggravated a few people until I finally located the keys.

Seems like an actuator or solenoid thingy might have packed it in or loose wire - another fix from LR on next service

I can't be Robinson Crusoe here, so it could be worth checking to see if all doors lock on your vehicle when they are supposed to lock with the remote.

Eeny

In all other regards, I'm very happy with the vehicle.

My driver's side passenger door also doesn't lock/unlock on the remote, but locks manually. The workshop looked at it at the 60,000 km service, replaced the actuator, but it still didn't work. They didn't charge me, but want the vehicle back at my convenience to get an electrician to look at it. Assuming the signal isn't reaching the lock.

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[jimr1]

Hi Shortie , you did It ! It took a while but you got there . I pleased you had a go . Now you have a lock that works . Yes those rivets do snap with a bit of a bang on the wrist . Jim :)

[AndyG]

Coming back from CookTown by rear lock seized up at Gin Gin, so no coffee break, pedal to the metal to get to BOR before they closed up. They cleverly unlocked the side window [bigwhistle] leaned in and opened it from the inside, my brain must have been road numb. So thanks BOR, forgot to mention, the cargo barrier makes it more fun

Sunday same story again, same solution, took the trim off and gave it a good blast with WD40, seems much better now, maybe an annual service item.

Now those little plastic fir trees for the trim [bighmmm] , are they a LR specialty or generic, and does anyone what ot ask for. I think i need to get some in stock before my next trim misadventure.

[jimr1]

When you look at the rear door handle/ locking mechanisum they are like something out of the dark ages . There very simple , but poor quality as well ? They seem to suck dust into the inside drieing up any lubrication and clogging the workings. I wouldn't think whoever designed them would still be working at Land Rover due to his age . So maybe the next generation Defender will have improved a bit ? Jim [smilebigeye]