View Full Version : Philips DRL on 2010 RRS?
Stuart02
24th May 2015, 11:22 PM
I'm considering swapping some daytime running lights off my work Pajero to my wife's RRS.
They're very good but they use a 'magic box' to presumably detect voltage changes (or current?) and turn on, as well as dimming when the headlights turn on via a low beam piggy back.
Unlocking the Pajero is enough to wake up the DRLs so I'm worried about how they'll feel about the RRS ECUs and possible extra battery drain. Likely issue?
Also would they work off the second battery?
Thanks
LGM
25th May 2015, 07:26 AM
I have installed an 'OSRAM LED Driving Fog / DRL Kit 6000K LED WHITE DAYLIGHT DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHT' in December last year and so far the has been no ill effects!
These DRL's are a combined DRL and Fog light which fit in the standard fog light location on my D4.
I do have a Traxide twin battery system installed so I guess that would more than cater for any extra battery drain. Mind you Electricery is not my strong point. :p
irondoc
25th May 2015, 07:38 AM
I've got the Osram combined DRL/foglight. They are the bomb, but expensive and fit neatly into the OEM foglight spot.
Only problem I found was that I have a solar panel on my roof, so when the voltage got above 13.2 or so, the DRLs would switch on when the car was off as they are voltage sensitive. It was fixed with a relay
Cheers
Lucas
mijango
25th May 2015, 12:49 PM
I have the Osram's too and they are awesome. I also noted that when charging the Traxide DBS with my ctek charger they flashed as the voltage rose.
In terms of current draw, I can't remember how much these use exactly, though remember reading it was v low as they are LEDs.
I just took out the fuse out of the LEDs when charging94342
Ps the pic doesn't really show how bright they are
Stuart02
26th May 2015, 08:59 AM
Thanks guys, sounds like the Osrams work the same way as the Philips I have re voltage sensing - but they can also be 'undimmed' for use as fog lights? They do look neat... $430 give or take seems to be the asking?
Tombie
26th May 2015, 11:23 AM
Thanks guys, sounds like the Osrams work the same way as the Philips I have re voltage sensing - but they can also be 'undimmed' for use as fog lights? They do look neat... $430 give or take seems to be the asking?
Suggest you shop around... People who can get trade price seem to do better :angel:
Stuart02
26th May 2015, 02:24 PM
I've been totally re-directed now. Just came across this on youtube, in case I'm not the only one who hasn't seen it. Very handy.
https://youtu.be/3z6W_3ZRCaY
Is it as easy as they say to pull off the headlights and grill? I couldn't find a demo of that part.
Tombie
26th May 2015, 02:38 PM
Headlights are lift bonnet, pull clips up pull headlight forward - easy without a bullbar... Unplug loom
Grill is 3 push down clips across the top, pull forward and lift out...
Stuart02
4th June 2015, 08:09 AM
Does anyone have any experience with these as an option to the Osram DRLs? They look very similar and say they use Osram LEDs, are half the price on Amazon. They don't appear to have the cornering light capability and are only (?) IP67 rated...
https://www.sylvania.com/en-us/products/automotive/ZEVO/Pages/ZEVO-FOG-Daytime-Running-Light.aspx
Redback
5th June 2015, 09:29 AM
Can someone explain to me why are these DRLs necessary or why you need them??
I've been watching a simialr thread on another forum, some people go to extrodinary lengths and money to do something your headlights can do:confused:
Baz.
Geedublya
5th June 2015, 10:05 AM
All the cool kids have them Baz, get with the times.
Stuart02
5th June 2015, 11:01 AM
Well it's getting less relevant as LED headlights become commonplace, but they're essentially a minimal draw, set and forget, maintenance free way of significantly increasing daytime visibility without wearing out your halogens or HIDs. Typically good ones are up to 1000 lumens and 6000k which halogens can't do. The automatic headlight setting is for seeing where you're going, not being seen.
irondoc
5th June 2015, 03:20 PM
Hi Baz
I think there is evidence that DRLs reduce accidents. They are usually LED so draw a much smaller current than headlights and don't need bulb replacement. They automatically come on with the engine and switch off when headlights are switched off (although many people wire them incorrectly so that they are always on).
They are quite bright and don't just aim down so they should be visible from wider angles than headlights. This is also why they need to be off when it is dark.
Plus, they look good...
Cheers
Lucas
Tombie
5th June 2015, 03:24 PM
Many DRLs if wired correctly drop to 30% output when headlights are on...
Redback
5th June 2015, 03:27 PM
Well it's getting less relevant as LED headlights become commonplace, but they're essentially a minimal draw, set and forget, maintenance free way of significantly increasing daytime visibility without wearing out your halogens or HIDs. Typically good ones are up to 1000 lumens and 6000k which halogens can't do. The automatic headlight setting is for seeing where you're going, not being seen.
The trouble is, people don't turn them off when they turn their headlights on:mad:
From the other forum, apparently they need to be set up so that they turn off when you turn your headlights off, that's the way the factory DRLs are set up AND they can't be brighter than you headlights.
Baz.
Tombie
5th June 2015, 03:30 PM
The trouble is, people don't turn them off when they turn their headlights on:mad:
From the other forum, apparently they need to be set up so that they turn off when you turn your headlights off, that's the way the factory DRLs are set up AND they can't be brighter than you headlights.
Baz.
Factory DRLs dim their output below that of headlights..
Some aftermarket controllers do the same.
Cheaper DRL installs are supposed to turn on with ignition and off with Headlights being turned on...
DRLs like all other lights are required to comply - most on the young demographic are just LEDs off eBay...
Stuart02
5th June 2015, 03:50 PM
The trouble is, people don't turn them off when they turn their headlights on:mad:
From the other forum, apparently they need to be set up so that they turn off when you turn your headlights off, that's the way the factory DRLs are set up AND they can't be brighter than you headlights.
Baz.
No the whole point is that they can be on when your headlights are off. And as Tombie says, they're wired in to dim as soon as the parkers kick in. Check out the video, they're super easy to install, and it demos their functions as well.
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shanegtr
5th June 2015, 04:16 PM
Hi Baz
I think there is evidence that DRLs reduce accidents. They are usually LED so draw a much smaller current than headlights and don't need bulb replacement. They automatically come on with the engine and switch off when headlights are switched off (although many people wire them incorrectly so that they are always on).
They are quite bright and don't just aim down so they should be visible from wider angles than headlights. This is also why they need to be off when it is dark.
Plus, they look good...
Cheers
Lucas
Last time I was out on the highway I paid attention to the newer cars with factory fitted LED DRL vs cars with just the headlights on. I much preferred the headlights as from my observations they are visible from a far greater distance. I was going to install some LED DRL but after that run I now wont bother (I might change the CCF to enable the DRL however)
Stuart02
8th June 2015, 07:06 AM
Last time I was out on the highway I paid attention to the newer cars with factory fitted LED DRL vs cars with just the headlights on. I much preferred the headlights as from my observations they are visible from a far greater distance. I was going to install some LED DRL but after that run I now wont bother (I might change the CCF to enable the DRL however)
That's probably as it should be, because as mentioned, DRLs are intended not to dazzle - or obscure the indicators. I'm not worried about cars half a km away, and the other thing I've noticed is that a lot of drivers still see headlights as an act of aggression which doesn't help when they already have their back up about having to share the road with a 'Rover!
I still use headlights on the highway if there's any visibility issues but that's a tiny fraction of my driving.
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