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Summiitt
11th June 2015, 06:50 PM
My series II shorty has always had a lazy starter, sounds like a flat battery but I've got full volts, charging and handles load so I'm guessing the starter has had it. Do I rebuild it or look for a new one, can't seem to find any new ones about so was thinking of a rebuild? Any ideas welcome..

Homestar
11th June 2015, 07:07 PM
Check your cables from the battery to the starter switch and then to the starter. Also check your resistance from the engine to the chassis and battery earth. Where are you measuring full volts? On the battery or at the starter? Could just be high resistance there. Check the voltage at the battery when cranking, then take the same reading at the starter motor - they should be quite close. If not, whip it put and crack it open - it may only need new brushes or a good clean of the commutator.

crackers
11th June 2015, 07:13 PM
There are low voltage, high torque starters available for MGs now that are half the size and spin the thing like a power drill with minimal battery drain (or so they claim). Are such beasties available for Landy's and if you live in a difficult area (snow all over your Landy sounds 'difficult' to me), is it worth upgrading?

Homestar
11th June 2015, 07:19 PM
There are low voltage, high torque starters available for MGs now that are half the size and spin the thing like a power drill with minimal battery drain (or so they claim). Are such beasties available for Landy's and if you live in a difficult area (snow all over your Landy sounds 'difficult' to me), is it worth upgrading?

They are certainly available for later Landies - I put one on my 86 RRC and it nearly jumps out of its skin when I hit the starter! :D

If these are available for early LR's I'd highly recommend one.

crackers
11th June 2015, 07:26 PM
They are certainly available for later Landies - I put one on my 86 RRC and it nearly jumps out of its skin when I hit the starter! :D

If these are available for early LR's I'd highly recommend one.

Available for MGBs (1961 onwards) so things look good :)

1950landy
11th June 2015, 08:12 PM
Try using a jumper lead direct from battery earth to one of the securing bolts of the starter & see if that helps with the cranking , that will climate all the earth connections. It has been our experience with the high torque starters the contacts in the solenoid give trouble . We only get about 3years use with the one on the Jag we race , &you need to make sure your battery always has folk voltage . We have never been Abel to get any body to repair them & have had to buy a new starter when the solenoid stops working.

newby@54
15th June 2015, 02:49 PM
Summitt


I had exactly the same issues despite a new starter motor. I found that the nut and bolt holding the cable from the positive battery terminal to one of the legs of the battery tray was only finger tight. Access is very tight so I had to remove the battery to find the issue. But once I removed that cable and cleaned up all the contacts and re-bolted it nice and tight I have a healthy starter motor.


I hope this helps.


Nic

JDNSW
15th June 2015, 07:50 PM
If the starter is "lazy", it is usually a poor connection, most often in the earth side of the circuit.

But occasionally it really is the starter at fault, although they usually either work or are dead. Usual problem is the armature is poling due to a worn bush or worn or stuck brushes and resulting burnt commutator, although this more commonly results in it just stopping working.

John