Where might the oil filter be on a Diesel?

[PCH]

I changed my oil on the D3 tonight and wanted to replace the oil filter as well but I could not find the oil filter 8O

The filter is a cartridge type. All you get is a paper element which must drop into some kind of canister.

This is first time I've changed oil on a diesel so is it normal not find the filter on the motor?

I dropped the bash plate off from underneath and undid the sump plug (which doesn't use a washer to seal but uses a rubber O-ring to seal) and could not find the filter anywhere around the engine. I thought maybe it is remote from the engine but didn't drop off all of the other covers under the gerabox or under the radiator.

Any hints where it might be?

Thanks,

Chris

[one_iota]

PCH,

You are breaking new ground here. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

You could try a PM to Defute. He has "inside" knowledge :wink:

Drivesafe's RR might be similar.

[sclarke]

This might not help, but give it a shot.

i had a 2001 model Volvo, the filter was paper in a canister that i could not find for the love of god.... but then i was showed and it was simple really.....

Remote Filter.

Call LR in the morning.

[WOLLAPIT85]

Defute will know for sure.

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">got any underbonnet pics of the engine we could look at....

it shouldnt be that hard to find......mine has one hidden next to the turbo...</span>

[PCH]

I couldn't see anything around the engine that vaguely looked like a filter. Its very tight around the engine and if its near the turbo I don't know how you'd get to it. Under the plastic cover which sits on top of the engine there is a plastic canister near the fire wall but it is very hard to get to and it has some kind of lid on it but it isn't big enough for the filter to fit into.

I bought the filter from Lance Dixon in Ferntree Gully and they haven't even used one yet and didn't know what the sump plug washer code was (I found out it doesn't use a washer, the plug has a rubber o-ring). I'll ask my dealer MLR where the filter is hiding so next time I do the oil I'll know where to look.

I haven't looked near the transmisson because there is a cover under it and I was getting a bit lazy last night. I'm sure it must be easily accessible. I just haven't spotted it yet 8O .

Chris

[CraigE]

It should be in you vehicle handbook.

[Ace]

Originally posted by CraigE
It should be in you vehicle handbook.

Was about to say the same thing. Is there anywhere on the net you can look? Matt

[Bytemrk]

G'day PCH

Like the other guys - can't give you a definite answer --- but I suspect remote filter is likely.

Maybe try a post here...

http://disco3.web-rover.co.uk/forum/

After all the POMs have had them for longer than us... so someone must have changed an oil filter by now 8O

Hope that helps,

Mark

[JohnE]

Best of luck, I looked under the bonnet of a D3 recently and it is a wonder you could find anything with all the covers.

On a more postive and brighter note,as I have worked out Landrover owners are a breed to themselves, different , not remote, helpful and polite. ( Hatchy take note) After all who else would change the oil and filter on a brand new release vehicle.



john

[PCH]

Originally posted by JohnE
Best of luck, I looked under the bonnet of a D3 recently and it is a wonder you could find anything with all the covers.

On a more postive and brighter note,as I have worked out Landrover owners are a breed to themselves, different , not remote, helpful and polite. ( Hatchy take note) After all who else would change the oil and filter on a brand new release vehicle.



john

I've always changed the oil and filter in between scheduled services. Although this is my first Landy it was just my way of doing things on any vehicle I've owned. I can't see that oil can last for 12,000km - better to change it regularly because it won't hurt.

Chris

[Bytemrk]

PCH Wrote <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I can't see that oil can last for 12,000km - better to change it regularly because it won't hurt.
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Smart boy...... be thinks a rebuild on a TDV6... would cost a hell of a lot of oil.... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Better to keep it right... than try and fix it later 8O 8O

Mark

[p38arover]

My wife's new Subaru has a 12,500km oil change period. I'll be doing an intermediate oil change at 6250km. 12,500 is too long for the driving she does.

Ron

[defute]

Hi PCH,

Sorry I missed this one.

Not sure if you've located the oil filter housing on your new TdV6 yet. Just in case you haven't - you'll find it underneath the acoustic cover on top of the engine.

Once the cover has been removed, you'll see the black plastic housing in the centre of the V inbetween the 2 cylinder heads.

Inside the plastic housing you will find the oil filter cartridge which is easily replaced.

Be carefull - it's very easy to make an oily mess of the top of the engine!!

Cheers,

MARCEL

[MT]

Just a simple question - Accepting that LR spent a gazillion developing the D3, and more than likely did not pluck the servicing regime out of their collective butts, and you get a 3 year warranty, why the hell would you F**K around with doing something that could void the warranty on your $85K vehicle?

In my experience as a project manager for a couple of projects involving the acquisition of large, expensive high tech modern diesel engines for a large govt enterprise it has been my experience that the quickest way we have stuffed up these bits of kit is when users start ignoring sound engineering advice and making it up themselves.

Its ok for these roosters in my game when the tax payer is meeting the cost of the stuff up - if it were their own vehicle I bet they would be more circumspect. So what do you reckon - defy professional engineering expertise or make it up yourself??

Over to you

Mark

[PCH]

Originally posted by MT
Just a simple question - Accepting that LR spent a gazillion developing the D3, and more than likely did not pluck the servicing regime out of their collective butts, and you get a 3 year warranty, why the hell would you F**K around with doing something that could void the warranty on your $85K vehicle?

In my experience as a project manager for a couple of projects involving the acquisition of large, expensive high tech modern diesel engines for a large govt enterprise it has been my experience that the quickest way we have stuffed up these bits of kit is when users start ignoring sound engineering advice and making it up themselves.

Its ok for these roosters in my game when the tax payer is meeting the cost of the stuff up - if it were their own vehicle I bet they would be more circumspect. So what do you reckon - defy professional engineering expertise or make it up yourself??

Over to you

Mark

Mark,

Changing oil is not F**king around with the engine. Not to do the drain plug up properly and check for leaks or not to use the right grade of oil and quantity is stupid and if you can't be confident to do these basic components of an oil change then don't do it. I can do this and have done it many times over. To change the filter at the time of an oil change is also a wise thing to do.

Modern engines seem to be given longer running times between oil changes however changing the oil more regularly than specified cannot hurt as long as you follow the basic principles of changing engine oil. You are not changing any settings and you do not need any special tools.

Yes the D3 has 3 years warranty and if you plan to keep the car for a lot longer time then give the car the best chance at lasting as long as possible. The engine oil is the most basic thing you can maintain and if it is in your capacity to do it then do so is my advice.

I'm also a qualified engineer with a Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical) and a Chartered Professional Engineer with the Institute of Engineers Australia hence have some idea about things mechanical.

Chris

[hiline]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm also a qualified engineer with a Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical) and a Chartered Professional Engineer with the Institute of Engineers Australia hence have some idea about things mechanical. [/quote][/b]

i'm guessing you would chris style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[LRHybrid100]

ah BUT even engineers **** UP!!!

[LRHybrid100]

for example:

LR D2 has no filler / dipstick for its ZF Auto.

Reason: Engineers FU the servicing more often than not, so the gearbox is now sealed for its usable life.

Result: ZF autos lasting longer in D2's than normal.

LRH

[PCH]

D3 has a sealed gearbox, transfer case, and diffs as well.

So you can only touch the engine oil!!

Chris