Anderson plug to white trailer socket.

[mojo]

Hi guys,

The camper trailer we just bought has an Anderson plug for charging the batteries, and from what I gather, the white trailer plug on the D4 can be used to provide power to a camper trailer. So I'm just wondering if there is an adapter available to allow me to connect the anderson plug to the white trailer socket?

Cheers
Sean

[Tombie]

Wont be enough unfortunately...

Traxide system (contact Drivesafe on here) is the go... You dont want to be drawing continually off the main battery... and the cable in the 12S isnt up to the feed for charging a trailer.

[mojo]

Will it draw power continuously? I have a vague recollection of reading that it only draws while the ignition/accessories are on?

Cheers
Sean

[jonesy63]

Sean,
It will depend on your setup and how you intend to use it. For example, if you charge your camper batteries from 240V at home before you leave - and they're fully charged, you could use the 12S to Anderson adapter to keep the camper batteries topped up until you arrive. The issue will be when you've been camping for a day or more and the camper batteries will "suck" more current than the 15A available from the 12S supply - blowing the fuse. If you use sufficient solar panels while camping (to keep the camper batteries charged), you may get around this problem.

[drivesafe]

Hi Sean, as Tombie and Jonesy have pointed out, the Battery circuit in the WHITE socket ( S12 ) is really only intended to keep a fully charged battery topped up.

BUT.

There are two circuits in the S12 Socket, the Battery and the Fridge circuits.

The Battery circuit can be used to power a compressor type fridge 24/7 ( just be careful not to allow the battery to be discharged to low ) but if you have a 3 way fridge, the D4's Fridge circuit is ideal for powering one of these, as it only works while the motor is running.

[Trngia]

If you do decide to use the white plug there is an adapter available on the disco UK website.

[RickO]

Hello everyone,

x3 about beign careful of the current draw..

While I suspect it was more likely due to the quality of the auto sparky's work rather than the current draw, I did get a short at the back of the D4 where my Traxide system was wired through the 12S plug.

After a year or so of getting by with a home made 12N+12S to 12 pin flat adapter I've just taken the plunge and had the 12S plug replaced with a 12 pin flat and 50A Anderson plug wired up to the Traxide.

A very near job by MLR I'm sure you will agree, especially considering the complication of a Mitch Hitch!

For anyone who's interested the home made 12N+12S to 12 pin flat adapter & a 12S charging plug (12S to bare wires) may be sighted in the markets section shortly.

Cheers,
RickO

[mojo]

Thanks all, I've had a chat to Tim and ordered the appropriate kit. As usual, Tim was very helpfull and great to deal with. :thumbsup:

Cheers
Sean

[sandgroper57]

I have ordered the D3DS system from traxide and hopefully be installing it next week, purpose is to have a dual battery system, an extra power socket in the rear of the vehicle to run a fridge 24/7 and the Anderson plug to connect to the camper trailer and charge the trailer batteries.
With all this I'm assuming the white trailer socket on the left will be redundant (not required).
The black trailer plug on the right will run all the trailer lights and electric brakes, am I correct?
I haven't yet been able to connect the vehicle to a trailer to see if this all works.
The vehicle has the redarc trailer braking system and there are two wires coming out of the loom at the rear and into the black plug so I'm assuming this is the trailer brakes..... only just got the vehicle through a dealer so info on this stuff was vague so am hoping it is and will be as I have described once I have fitted the traxide dual battery system.


The black plug, white plug, Anderson plug thing gets a bit confusing.


Cheers

[BMKal]

I have ordered the D3DS system from traxide and hopefully be installing it next week, purpose is to have a dual battery system, an extra power socket in the rear of the vehicle to run a fridge 24/7 and the Anderson plug to connect to the camper trailer and charge the trailer batteries.
With all this I'm assuming the white trailer socket on the left will be redundant (not required).
The black trailer plug on the right will run all the trailer lights and electric brakes, am I correct?
I haven't yet been able to connect the vehicle to a trailer to see if this all works.
The vehicle has the redarc trailer braking system and there are two wires coming out of the loom at the rear and into the black plug so I'm assuming this is the trailer brakes..... only just got the vehicle through a dealer so info on this stuff was vague so am hoping it is and will be as I have described once I have fitted the traxide dual battery system.


The black plug, white plug, Anderson plug thing gets a bit confusing.


Cheers

You are correct. The original white plug on your LR will be surplus to requirements once you have fitted the Traxide kit. I have exactly the same setup that you are going to install in my D4.

I was thinking of removing the LR white plug and installing the Anderson plug in that position using an Anderson Plug housing (shown below), but am now thinking of trying to find a spot where I can cut a rectangular hole in the bumper and mount this housing / connector so that it is accessible from "outside" (I quite often use the Anderson Plug on the rear of the car when I am not towing, so would like to be able to access it without removing the cover panel in the bumper bar).

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/656.jpg https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/657.jpg

[sandgroper57]

Ok thanks for that info, I have a Mitch hitch installed so cover is removed permanently. I will get rid of the white plug and fit the Anderson unit there and all done


Cheers

[LRD414]

I have a Mitch hitch installed so cover is removed permanently.

Just a thought ...... The cover can be refitted even with Mitch Hitch. You cut it in half and shape it around the hitch. I have the cover on unless towing and then only remove the black plug side (my Anderson comes out that side).

Looks neat and flush.

Scott
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Edit: Hitch looks a bit rough now though [emoji51]

[sandgroper57]

Ok but don't have the cover, wasn't there when I got the car.
My "Mitch hitch" looks a bit different.... think mine might be one of the replica's that's being talked about.

[sandgroper57]

There are five wires connected into the white plug, should I just cut and blank them, want to make room for a permanent Anderson plug arrangement so white plug needs to go.


Cheers

[LRD414]

..... should I just cut and blank them .....
You could or you could remove the loom like strydes did in this thread. That way you could put it back if ever required

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/223901-12s-tow-electrics-white-plug-removal.html

Cheers,
Scott

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[Mungus]

As the white socket is also a good charging point, would it be possible to remove the round socket and terminate the two (charge) wires into a different socket? For example I intend to fit a Traxide DBS next and was considering removing this socket and fitting two Anderson plugs, one for trailer load and the other (existing two wires) for charging.

[LandyAndy]

Pretty sure you can buy anderson plug mounts,at the moment my Traxide anderson is just tucked in behind the cover.
It has been posted that its best to charge thru the white plug from a charger or solar.In this case the main battery will get charged and the aux.If the traxide has disconected from the main battery,only the aux battery gets charged when charging thru the anderson connection.
Andrew

[Mungus]

So, If I charge through the white socket (or use those two wires in a different socket i.e. Anderson) and the Traxide has disconnected from the main battery, would I still be charging the main battery?
Still allowing load to be taken from the Aux via the 2nd (Traxide) Anderson plug.


My thinking is to have load delivered via the Traxide 50A plug and charge via the ex white socket.


So how do I charge the Aux, obviously not while under load?


Might send Tim a PM.

[LandyAndy]

The pos in the white plug will charge the main battery,in charging the main battery the traxide will see this and also charge the aux.
If you are charging thru the traxide anderson and its self disconnected(ie after 72 hours of no use) it wont charge the main.Its simply a matter of starting the motor/turning it off and the traxide opens for bussiness and charges both batteries,despite the power coming from the anderson;);););)
I intend keeping my anderson seperate for what its disigned for,hi amp power.I also intend getting a plug to suit the white connection to put low amp charge into the main battery.I will need to look into a different way I guess when a Mitch Hitch is purchased.
Andrew

[sandgroper57]

When you say use the white plug and/or Anderson plug for charging are you talking about using a solar panel ? Or am I missing something?


Cheers

[letherm]

When you say use the white plug and/or Anderson plug for charging are you talking about using a solar panel ? Or am I missing something?


Cheers

I use a CTEK battery charger through the white socket using an adapter that plugs into the socket and has an Anderson plug to connect to the charger.

[LRD414]

I intend keeping my anderson seperate for what its disigned for,hi amp power.I also intend getting a plug to suit the white connection to put low amp charge into the main battery.I will need to look into a different way I guess when a Mitch Hitch is purchased.
Andrew

Andrew, this will be fine, you won't need to change anything. The Mitch Hitch main bush & bolt are difficult to manoeuvre past the plugs but it is manageable with both plugs loosened but not removed. It is only difficult because the wiring looms have very little slack, meaning you can't just pull the loosened plug forwards right out of the way.

Scott

[Redback]

We have a seperate Anderson plug to the back, from the Auxillary battery, and also the white plug to an Anderson plug back to the Anderson plug on the trailer to charge the camper battery, had it this way since we have had the car.

Big socket to Anderson plug is setup like an adaptor, we have it this way because the trailer wiring was a tad short and wouldn't reach, so instead of re-wiring the trailer, just made an adaptor, been working fine for 3yrs now.

Baz.

[NutoLR]

You could or you could remove the loom like strydes did in this thread. That way you could put it back if ever required

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/223901-12s-tow-electrics-white-plug-removal.html

Cheers,
Scott

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/d3-d4-rrs/98184d1440719417-12s-tow-electrics-white-plug-removal-image1.jpg

Hi Scott,

So wires in this loom do not enter the body until the other side of the plug under the LHR tail light?

Cheers
John

[LRD414]

So wires in this loom do not enter the body until the other side of the plug under the LHR tail light?


That's right John. Strydes would be able to better respond in detail but the plug on the right of the photo is external and the next loom goes from that plug through the grommet behind the LHR tail light into the LHR storage compartment (internal), where there is another plug.

Scott

[NutoLR]

Thanks Scott; that proves I have been looking in the wrong place (and probing the wrong blue with pink trace wire).

Cheers
John...

[Melbourne Park]

I use a CTEK battery charger through the white socket using an adapter that plugs into the socket and has an Anderson plug to connect to the charger.

I still have the white plug; plus the full Traxide setup.

I can't easily access the main battery for C-tek control charging ... where can one buy the adapter for the white plug, to allow main battery charging?

I only would like to do it because many say a proper smart charge improves battery life ...

[Graeme]

I got my white plug from ebay. Mine will be able to connect the Anderson plug from the aux battery to the main battery via the white socket when I fit longer wires - yesterday's wires are too short!

[LRD414]

... where can one buy the adapter for the white plug, to allow main battery charging
...
Disco3 is a good source for the plug
Charging through towing socket - DISCO3.CO.UK Knowledge Base (http://www.disco3.co.uk/wiki/Charging_through_towing_socket)
Also explains other uses for the plug.

And here's a good thread regarding charging with ctek:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/208916-ctek-charger.html

Cheers,
Scott

[letherm]

I still have the white plug; plus the full Traxide setup.

I can't easily access the main battery for C-tek control charging ... where can one buy the adapter for the white plug, to allow main battery charging?

I only would like to do it because many say a proper smart charge improves battery life ...


I got mine here.

DISCO3.CO.UK - DISCO3.CO.UK - Shop (http://www.disco3.co.uk/shop/disco3-co-uk-c1.html)

Martin

[LandyAndy]

Didnt somebody post that they got one from a dealer and it wasnt that dear????
Andrew

[Graeme]

$5.25 on ebay ex HK

[Melbourne Park]

Thanks Graeme Scott and Martin!!!

Doug

[strydes]

That's right John. Strydes would be able to better respond in detail but the plug on the right of the photo is external and the next loom goes from that plug through the grommet behind the LHR tail light into the LHR storage compartment (internal), where there is another plug.

Scott

Spot on. I haven't ventured into the next loom just yet, awaiting Traxide kit arrival to disassemble my car again. Maybe this weekend (after the Eagles win the GF of course)...