Converting 93 LSE from Abs to 94 Disco non Abs

[Lockee]

So ditching Abs and traction control from the LSE back to a normal brake booster and master from non Abs disco.

Ran into one problem Donor disco only has single brakelines.

Back to drawing board

[Justinb]

Don't despair, I've had the same thing done. remove the spacer plate from the RRC calipers, split the D1calipers and insert it . You've now got a caliper with single lines but wide enough to use with the RRC ventilated discs not the solid disc of the D1.
Like me , you're only doing this to a vehicle you use around the farm. Engineers struggle with up people like us reinventing the parts bin shuffle that occurred on the LR production line . When it worked I was stunned that everything was interchangeable . Stupid me , I shouldn't have been.
You're welcome to come and have a look if that helps.

Justin

[Lockee]

Thanks will do that was thinking of going that way.

Thinking too hard on it last night.

[Vern]

Just get defender calipers jason, thats all i did and got it past the engineer.

[DoubleChevron]

Just get defender calipers jason, thats all i did and got it past the engineer.

Why would you engineer anything :confused: Just take it in for a roadworthy if required.... Don't say "boo" to anyone. They measure the rotor thickness, check the pads and lines and tick it off.

KISS guys :)

seeya,
Shane L.

[Vern]

Ah because of engine and geabox conversion, bodylift, 33's, brake upgrade etc..and so i could get it registered legally so i feel more comfortable when driving around with my family!
Thats why i had it engineered!
Kiss

[DoubleChevron]

Ah because of engine and geabox conversion, bodylift, 33's, brake upgrade etc..and so i could get it registered legally so i feel more comfortable when driving around with my family!
Thats why i had it engineered!
Kiss

350 Chev ?

[Vern]

Isuzu

[DoubleChevron]

Hmm... yeah probably. If it was a disco motor I'd probably try registering it not saying anything. It could be it would slip through given it *is* a land rover engine in a land rover :)

seeya,
Shane L.

[Lockee]

Sorted, Discovery Calipers with the spacers from the vented RRC to start. Perhaps Defender Calipers if required.

[dungarover]

I did this conversion years ago on a 90 Rangie Vogue SE with ABS as the pump was on it's way out. Instead of spending a small fortune on the ABS I ditched it, cost me bugger all (I had a 88 Rangie donor with non abs and used all the bits off that). I never had it engineered, put it through a roadworthy and nobody thought the wiser. I did get a comment that the brakes were really good though :D

Trav

[superquag]

I did this conversion years ago on a 90 Rangie Vogue SE with ABS as the pump was on it's way out. Instead of spending a small fortune on the ABS I ditched it, cost me bugger all (I had a 88 Rangie donor with non abs and used all the bits off that). I never had it engineered, put it through a roadworthy and nobody thought the wiser. I did get a comment that the brakes were really good though :D

Trav

Funny you should say that... the old '89 I used to tow a > 2 tonne plant/trailer had magnificent braking, (Owner didn't skimp on servicing) Controllable, progressive and never locked up... pushing more = More Braking. Simple...:D

- My '95 ABS is NO better by itself, and 'inspires' even less confidence with a 6x4 garden trailer...

[Lockee]

With 255 85 16 Mud terrains, Twin lockers etc Believe will be a better thing without the ABS and traction control.

Trying to get back to basics for reliability.

KISS

[dungarover]

I agree, you can't beat simple :D

Trav

[rwlse]

I did this mody some years ago on my LSE, Not really happy with it. All new parts and the brakes arnt that good and there is always a tendancy for brake fade. I'm now having a set of Defender front calipers modified to fit the LSE, in the hopes that things will improve.

[Vern]

How are they being modified? I have them on my lse, bolted straight on from memory

[rwlse]

How are they being modified? I have them on my lse, bolted straight on from memory

Tapped and drilled for the extra break pipe..
Richard

[Vern]

Oh, for secondary brake system /line! Interesting. I just made mine single line like a defender.

[rwlse]

Yes I have thought of that as a last resort.
I pull a 3.5 ton boat and I really need good brakes. The LSE is very lethargic when it comes to stopping. My newly acquired 93 Rangie still has abs, and is better, But my son has a total abused 91 Rangie and the brakes are brilliant,,WHY!!
I,m hopping that the defender calipers will fix both cars.

[superquag]

Yes I have thought of that as a last resort.
I pull a 3.5 ton boat and I really need good brakes. The LSE is very lethargic when it comes to stopping. My newly acquired 93 Rangie still has abs, and is better, But my son has a total abused 91 Rangie and the brakes are brilliant,,WHY!!
I,m hopping that the defender calipers will fix both cars.

Different brand or class of pads, disk may differ as to material/manufacturer..this can be a 'biggie' as my past experience showed.
. Used to have VW Passat, (Audi FOX on the cheap) and I put some Brazilian aftermarket rotors on it... Brilliant braking, - after I went to another brand/type/co$t pad$. :eek:

50K later, (new pads..:o ) the machining discolouration marks were still evident !
Sold the car with over 300K on those rotors...and NO discernable wear, nor did they even think of going out of 'true'...or shudder.

Maintaining the braking system, along with consumables makes a difference. New fluid every year or two also helps ! :angel:

[Lockee]

So all the 93 brake system is removed.

Have most of the parts ready to go.
94 disco master and booster non Abs under bonnet lines and pro portioning valve.
New defender calipers
Picking up today rear single splitter for rear brakes.
So will be single line at each wheel now