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OnSafari
7th January 2016, 04:14 PM
Is it worth while upgrading the brakes on an 86 or 88 inch to those used on the 107 and 109 inch?

Thanks

JDNSW
7th January 2016, 07:30 PM
Depends on your attitude to keeping it original. For normal use the the 86/88 brakes are "adequate", bearing in mind the power/weight ratio and loaded weight of the Series 1.

Certainly, long wheelbase brakes (I would use 2a brakes) will perform better, but consider the difficulty of getting a suitable master cylinder. (I assume the one you have is functional or repairable). And the lwb brakes have a reputation of being more difficult to bleed.

John

Jcrowe69
8th January 2016, 05:27 AM
I have just ordered a new master cylinder for my 86" but went back to the UK for it, 50 quid delivered. I t seems like that all models of master cylinder are available for a similar price.

gromit
8th January 2016, 06:35 AM
I have just ordered a new master cylinder for my 86" but went back to the UK for it, 50 quid delivered. I t seems like that all models of master cylinder are available for a similar price.

An 86" master cylinder for 50GBP delivered ?
Is it the original 3 bolt master cylinder that was fitted to the Series I ? You can change to a 2 bolt from a Series II and kits are available to do this.

The original looks like this (this one's a pattern one for a Minerva).

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/718.jpg (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/cradley/media/Series%201%20with%20Welder/DSCF2137_zpsf80ee71a.jpg.html)



Colin

Jcrowe69
9th January 2016, 05:17 AM
Hi Colin,
It's the two hole flange type as I couldn't find a correct three hole flange one, do you have a contact or supplier where I can get the correct unit as I was really after one?
This what I bought
Bearmach Land Rover Series 2 & 2a SWB 88" Brake Master Cylinder - 520849 | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321938245055?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Cheers Jason

gromit
9th January 2016, 08:16 AM
Hi Colin,
It's the two hole flange type as I couldn't find a correct three hole flange one, do you have a contact or supplier where I can get the correct unit as I was really after one?
This what I bought
Bearmach Land Rover Series 2 & 2a SWB 88" Brake Master Cylinder - 520849 | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321938245055?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Cheers Jason

Unfortunately they are like rocking horse droppings.
Wrinklearthur put me onto the fact that the Minerva master cylinder is identical (it would be as it's basically a Series I), someone on Ebay in Germany had a number of them for sale a while ago.

The alternative is to get your old one (if you have it) re-sleeved.

Here is a kit with all the parts needed to fit the later master cylinder Land Rover Series One Brake Parts Page 3 (http://www.dingocroft.co.uk/acatalog/Series1_Brakes-p3.html) (scroll down).
The kit saves you drilling a hole in the outrigger.

Colin

Jcrowe69
9th January 2016, 11:08 AM
I did a lot of Googleing this morning and came across these guys in India, I sent them an email and we'll what comes back. Initially dubious but if the quality is good it might be a good source for these bits.....
http://www.brakesofindia.com/European%201/LAND-ROVER.pdf


Cheers
Jason

OnSafari
10th January 2016, 06:43 AM
Good discussion guys, I was only asking aout the 107 / 109 brakes as I have the bits, but I think I may go with the original 10 inch and I really like the conversion kit for the series 2 master cylinder.

Cheers