D4 - Swapping standard lights to signature lights

[hazza1981]

Hi

Just wondering if anyone has changed over the standard D4 lights to the signature LED lights at all?

Thanks

[BMKal]

I thought all D4's had "signature" LED lights - I've never seen one without them.

Sure you aren't referring to the difference between the older style of D4 headlights (say 2012) and the newer model's lights (2014 / 2015) ???

[apom]

SE and HSE have them as standard. TDV6 comes with a single yellow globe that you can change to white but I havent found any updates to the DRL on the SE and HSE models but would love to :D

[Grentarc]

The early D4 without xenon don't have the LED signature lights

[Tombie]

So back on topic.

Yes you can upgrade to Xenon headlights with the Signature lights.

You then need to edit the CCF to make it all work (easy) using something like the IID tool.

[Brada]

So back on topic.

Yes you can upgrade to Xenon headlights with the Signature lights.

You then need to edit the CCF to make it all work (easy) using something like the IID tool.

So the wiring harness plugs straight in?

[Graeme]

The standard bi-xenons use the same harness as the halogens but the adaptive bi-xenons require their own control module.

[LRD414]

So back on topic.
Yes you can upgrade to Xenon headlights with the Signature lights.
You then need to edit the CCF to make it all work (easy) using something like the IID tool.
So Tombie have you managed to figure out the CCF changes that stumped Kev (Celtoid) in this thread?
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/197082-disco-4-aftermarket-xenon-lights-installation-13.html

He got close but seemingly not all CCF settings were discovered.

Cheers,
Scott

[LandyAndy]

Could be worth talking to Cambo351.It seems he has entered the inner sanctum.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/communications-car-audio-electronics/231941-retrofitting-missing-factory-options-new-ish-lrs-fl2-evoque-d3-d4-rrs-etc.html
Andrew

[Graeme]

Its no good going to a LR dealer as their equipment does not have the ability to edit individual CCF settings - a Faultmate or IID tool is needed. Whilst I didn't try changing D4 headlight specs because I didn't have a need, I changed various other CCF settings with my Faultmate that a LR dealer could not change, such as disabling the steering column lock and changing the various speedo and fuel consumption correction factors.

[LandyAndy]

Surely the fuel consumption correction should be easy,its only a sensor measuring a flow rate,shame adjustment is not available in cab.
Ive done farming and calibrating the ecu to the boomspray output is a must do on a weekly basis.Same story for air-seeder carts.
I have accugrade on my grader and constantly have to calibrate it to make sure the computer is cutting the grade I need.Pretty easy to tell when its not coping,lay a cut at 3% one direction with ease then return along the same a cut at 3% and it wants to dig deep.Go and do the ECU calibration and its sorted.
Andrew

[cjc_td5]

I've done CCF edits using my Nanocom. Only basic stuff like disable seatbelt chime, get rid of the speedo correction and enable the reversing camera. I haven't needed to use it for several months as nothing ever goes wrong with the D4. ☺☺☺☺

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[cjc_td5]

I thought all D4's had "signature" LED lights - I've never seen one without them.

Sure you aren't referring to the difference between the older style of D4 headlights (say 2012) and the newer model's lights (2014 / 2015) ???

My MY14 D4 has filament globes for main lights, DRLs and indicators.

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[Tombie]

My MY14 D4 has filament globes for main lights, DRLs and indicators.

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DRLs or Signature lights :) there is a difference :D

[LRD414]

So back on topic.
Yes you can upgrade to Xenon headlights with the Signature lights.
You then need to edit the CCF to make it all work (easy) using something like the IID tool.
Tombie have you managed to figure out the CCF changes that stumped Kev (Celtoid) in this thread?
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...lation-13.html (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/197082-disco-4-aftermarket-xenon-lights-installation-13.html)

He got close but seemingly not all CCF settings were discovered.

Cheers,
Scott

[winaje]

I've done CCF edits using my Nanocom. Only basic stuff like disable seatbelt chime, get rid of the speedo correction and enable the reversing camera. I haven't needed to use it for several months as nothing ever goes wrong with the D4. ☺☺☺☺

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Apologies for hijack... When you say "get rid of the speedo correction" do you mean that you can make the speedo read the correct road speed, rather than the 6-8% over-reading that it does? Also, are you able to make the l/100 kms on the trip computer read correctly, rather than the 10% or so under that it reads?

Thanks

[Graeme]

My D4's speedo correction factor was set at +3.5% + 2 kph but +2% + 0 kph was another option. Fuel consumption correction for my 3.0 D4 was set at +7% but changed to -4% to be reasonably accurate for my driving.

[winaje]

My D4's speedo correction factor was set at +3.5% + 2 kph but +2% + 0 kph was another option. Fuel consumption correction for my 3.0 D4 was set at +7% but changed to -4% to be reasonably accurate for my driving.

This done with Nanocom, or MSV-2?

[cjc_td5]

Apologies for hijack... When you say "get rid of the speedo correction" do you mean that you can make the speedo read the correct road speed, rather than the 6-8% over-reading that it does? Also, are you able to make the l/100 kms on the trip computer read correctly, rather than the 10% or so under that it reads?

Thanks

As Graeme said, from memory my D4 was set at +3.5% +2km/h. I reset it to +2% which is within 1-2km/h of a GPS speedo at 110km/h.

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[rufusking]

This done with Nanocom, or MSV-2?

Did mine with a Nanocom Evo.

[Graeme]

Did mine with MSV-2.

[kenl]

I have a MSV-2 but am so used to driving at 116 kph that I'm not game to change it now, lest I forget.

As for the fuel economy.... I never bother with it anymore, what difference does it make to know what your fuel economy is. Not likely to sell the car because the economy is 7% more than I thought it should be. Volkswagon have proven that one I reckon, I've not seen one dealership in hardship since the expose' of their fiddling.. people just like the cars.

[JamesH]

I changed various other CCF settings with my Faultmate that a LR dealer could not change, such as disabling the steering column lock and changing the various speedo and fuel consumption correction factors.

Oh how I wish I could adjust my fuel consumption measurement settings. 1.4 litres too low regardless of what the reading says, an economical tank or a leadfoot tank, always 1.4 out. Talk about the irrits.

Sorry for the off topic rant, carry on with the interesting thread. Graeme triggered me.

[Tombie]

Those with IID tools - there is a function for EPB..
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/04/87.jpg

[LRD414]

Those with IID tools - there is a function for EPB..

Tombie, on that same page of the Gap iiD website there appears to be no configuration options for the "headlamp" functionality. And in an older thread it seemed not straightforward to reconfigure the CCF for a change from standard halogen to xenon lights.

Have you figured out how to change all required CCF settings to suit xenons?

Cheers,
Scott

[apom]

So, I have read all this thread... treat me as a newbie

1. I can swap my standard headlights in the TDV6 to xenons with DRLs?

If yes, where did you get them?

2. I can fix the worlds most optimistic fuel consumption gauge and speedo if i have an IID tool?


thanks... AP

[IndusD4]

Have you figured out how to change all required CCF settings to suit xenons?

I could check what my CCF settings are, mine has Xenons. You could compare that to your current settings and see what would need to change?

Ron

[LandyAndy]

For anybody in WA looking to upgrade,I saw a (1)2014 HSE headlight with DRL listed on gumtree today,I should have bookmarked it.
Andrew

[Graeme]

Faultmate for my MY10 at the time had an entry for Xenon head lights with the options fitted and not fitted.

[apom]

For anybody in WA looking to upgrade,I saw a (1)2014 HSE headlight with DRL listed on gumtree today,I should have bookmarked it.
Andrew

This one?

Land Rover Discovery 4 HID LED LH Headlight. | Auto Body parts | Gumtree Australia Serpentine Area - Byford | 1111525616 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/byford/auto-body-parts/land-rover-discovery-4-hid-led-lh-headlight-/1111525616)

[IndusD4]

I would think in addition to the "Xenon lamps" setting to "fitted" you would need one of the DRL settings to be enabled?

Mine has
DRL Canadian - Disabled
DRL Scandinavian - Enabled
DRL Standard - Inactive

Note that my DRLs are not the fairy lights but the normal headlights.

Ron

[LRD414]

Faultmate for my MY10 at the time had an entry for Xenon head lights with the options fitted and not fitted.


I would think in addition to the "Xenon lamps" setting to "fitted" you would need one of the DRL settings to be enabled?
Mine has
DRL Canadian - Disabled
DRL Scandinavian - Enabled
DRL Standard - Inactive

So my summary of CCF settings that appear relevant is:

[Xenon Headlights] - Not Fitted > change to Fitted
[Corner Lamps] - Not Fitted > not sure, is this standard with xenon units?
[Corner Lights] - Disabled > as above, not sure?
[AFS] - Disabled > no change, requires extra control unit etc.
[DRL Standard] - Enabled > no change, should already be set to Enabled

I would expect but haven't confirmed the DRL setting is enabled in my MY14 because the round light functions as a DRL already.


I could check what my CCF settings are, mine has Xenons. You could compare that to your current settings and see what would need to change?
That would be appreciated Ron. Even better would be someone with MY14 xenon, just in case there's CCF changes with the later models.

I am wondering if there's bulb monitoring CCF settings too, based on this description of the system taken from the WSM:

Warm monitoring is performed continuously when the lights are switched on by evaluating the diagnostic output of the MOSFET switches.
Cold monitoring is performed at 32 second intervals when the lights are switched off.
Cold monitoring is not possible for the low/high beam headlamps of vehicles using xenon bulbs.
On these vehicles the cold monitoring of the low/high beam headlamps is switched off in the CJB.
The CJB detects a failed xenon bulb via a reduction in current flow to the affected headlamp's xenon control module.
When a xenon bulb fails, the control module's current consumption falls to 60mA, which the CJB detects as unsuccessful bulb illumination.

Perhaps this difference between halogen & xenon requires CCF changes. Or the [Xenon Headlights] setting covers all differences.

Regards,
Scott

[Graeme]

No, for pre-DRL vehicles the DRL settings are for the headlights to be on without being switched on.

For MY10 standard bi-xenons did not have corner lights fitted, only AFS lights. However on my D4 the CCF had the corner lights enabled but not fitted and there was indeed power to the corner light pins in the headlamp connector.

[LandyAndy]

This one?

Land Rover Discovery 4 HID LED LH Headlight. | Auto Body parts | Gumtree Australia Serpentine Area - Byford | 1111525616 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/byford/auto-body-parts/land-rover-discovery-4-hid-led-lh-headlight-/1111525616)

Thats it.
Andrew

[IndusD4]

That would be appreciated Ron. Even better would be someone with MY14 xenon, just in case there's CCF changes with the later models.

Sorry I don't have a 2014 config, mine is a 2011 but here you go.

Ron

[LRD414]

I'm closing the loop in this thread just in case others are searching in future.
Done quite easily in the end, only two settings to change:

Xenon headlights > fitted
DRL Standard > enabled (may already be enabled depending on year)

Other details in this thread:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/239280-2014-facelift-xenon-headlights-grill-enroute.html

Regards,
Scott

[PerthDisco]

My old 08 has this type like a fish eye. Are these the Xenon? I’ve always thought they were the best standard headlight of any stock headlight On a car I’ve owned.

Do they degrade over time and is the bulb a change out item?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201222/dd221369f6d5be44d3ee4fa2393c3901.jpg

[DiscoDB]

PerthDisco - yes they are the Xenon lights. Absolutely brilliant and having done a bit of night driving on remote roads I never felt the need for adding any spot lights.

I upgraded the bulbs for the side lights to LED and added some make up to make it look younger.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201223/f83d08ec688d0987f8cbeaf3b6852aee.jpg

[PerthDisco]

PerthDisco - yes they are the Xenon lights. Absolutely brilliant and having done a bit of night driving on remote roads I never felt the need for adding any spot lights.

I upgraded the bulbs for the side lights to LED and added some make up to make it look younger.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201223/f83d08ec688d0987f8cbeaf3b6852aee.jpg

I never realised there was a weaker version when I heard people complaining as some large reflective country signs light up like the Griswolds house at Xmas time under these xenons.

[DiscoDB]

I think they were standard on the 08 SE model. Called bi-xenon as uses xenon for both low and high beam.