Changing seats

[Chris078]

Just got back from attending a dawn service here in Brisbane.
The Perentie was a hit, but after bashing pothole on the way home, my Drivers seat base (the metal plate that the seat cushion attaches too, not the seat box itself) finally succumbed to rust and broke in half.

So now I need either a replacement seat cushion base (and cushion I suppose) or a whole new seat.

Does anyone know of any bolt in options for seats?
I like the look of the SAAS/Recaro seats you can grab at Supercheap for $250. They don't bolt straight in though, and getting adapters made up and certified is apparently very expensive.

[BadCo.]

How much money have you got?

Front Seats (http://www.exmoortrim.co.uk/store/defender-products/front-seats.html)

I assume these bolt straight in.

[rar110]

Defender (including 1988/9/90 County) have the same seat mounting points.

[Chris078]

How much money have you got?

Front Seats (http://www.exmoortrim.co.uk/store/defender-products/front-seats.html)

I assume these bolt straight in.

Not that much! Especially now that I need to spend $$$$$ putting new suspension in - Emergency brake on the highway yesterday led to a 180 :mad:. not fun.

I may end up putting a Defender one in if I can find one.
I read someone (here or REMLR) that there is a place in Townsville (I think) that re-covered them for the Army but I'm not having any luck find the forum post or the business.

It's just a seat cushion base! I really don't want to have to spend huge $$$ to fix it.

[BadCo.]

Not that much! Especially now that I need to spend $$$$$ putting new suspension in - Emergency brake on the highway yesterday led to a 180 :mad:. not fun.

I may end up putting a Defender one in if I can find one.
I read someone (here or REMLR) that there is a place in Townsville (I think) that re-covered them for the Army but I'm not having any luck find the forum post or the business.

It's just a seat cushion base! I really don't want to have to spend huge $$$ to fix it.

Swap it with the passenger base and ignore it for a bit longer haha

You might get lucky and the next auction will have seats...

[Chris078]

Swap it with the passenger base and ignore it for a bit longer haha

You might get lucky and the next auction will have seats...

Sadly, I'm in Brisbane and it seems that the parts auctions are only happening from Minto and I'll be damned if I'm buying a whole seat(when I just need the cushion), then paying to get it picked up and delivered up here, only to find I have the same problem again because I couldn't inspect it.

Swapping them over would mean that would have to swap the whole seat seat over wouldn't it? Since the passenger seat base is removable to access the battery and the seat frame is different ( I think, not near it to check at the moment)

[BadCo.]

Sadly, I'm in Brisbane and it seems that the parts auctions are only happening from Minto and I'll be damned if I'm buying a whole seat(when I just need the cushion), then paying to get it picked up and delivered up here, only to find I have the same problem again because I couldn't inspect it.

Swapping them over would mean that would have to swap the whole seat seat over wouldn't it? Since the passenger seat base is removable to access the battery and the seat frame is different ( I think, not near it to check at the moment)

The drivers should be removable to inspect the fuel tank.

Both my seats are identical.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Do you have Isri or Stratos seating? (Isri have removable cushions)

The Isri bolt directly to the Defender seat box, while the Stratos have seat rails and a hinge mechanism for the passenger side.

Isri seat bases are available as a spare part, (but you may need to take out a second mortgage. ;) )

The rails on the Stratos have been engineered and approved. If you use anything else (other than Defender/County) that doesn't bolt directly to the seat box they will need to be engineer certified.

[BadCo.]

Do you have Isri or Stratos seating? (Isri have removable cushions)

The Isri bolt directly to the Defender seat box, while the Stratos have seat rails and a hinge mechanism for the passenger side.

Isri seat bases are available as a spare part, (but you may need to take out a second mortgage. ;) )

These rails have been engineered and approved. If you use anything else (other than Defender/County) that doesn't bolt directly to the seat box they will need to be engineer certified.

Sorry to go off topic, but do you know what the model name is of the isri seats?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

There are two models of Isri used in the Perentie, I don't have the details here at work.

[Chris078]

Do you have Isri or Stratos seating? (Isri have removable cushions)

The Isri bolt directly to the Defender seat box, while the Stratos have seat rails and a hinge mechanism for the passenger side.

Isri seat bases are available as a spare part, (but you may need to take out a second mortgage. ;) )

The rails on the Stratos have been engineered and approved. If you use anything else (other than Defender/County) that doesn't bolt directly to the seat box they will need to be engineer certified.


well now I'm confused. Both of mine are on rails (you can slide them back and forth) but only the passenger side has a removable seat cushion.

poked the camera in and took a couple of photos (http://imgur.com/a/NE01g), didn't take the covers off though as that is a pain.

differences that I can see:
1. Drivers seat cushion is fixed,
- passengers is removable.
2. Drivers seat has a metal lever on the left side at the back to tilt the seat
- Passengers is a yellow plastic latch thing on the right side at the back
3. Driver seat has a single lever on the front left that you pull to slide the seat back and forth
- Passenger has a bar type arrangement

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The Isri seats have the sliders that bolt to the seat box.

The Stratos have a folded metal bracket onto which the sliders bolt and the rails/brackets then bolt onto the seat box. These are somewhat similar in design to the Mud Stuff seat rails.

If you have one seat cushion that removes, you most likely have Isri seats. You may also find that the drivers seat cushion will remove too but the release is stuck. (Although there are Isri seats that don't have the removable cushion, e.g. the rear seats in the RFSV and LRPV and 6x6 troop carriers.)

[Chris078]

The Isri seats have the sliders that bolt to the seat box.

The Stratos have a folded metal bracket onto which the sliders bolt and the rails/brackets then bolt onto the seat box. These are somewhat similar in design to the Mud Stuff seat rails.

If you have one seat cushion that removes, you most likely have Isri seats. You may also find that the drivers seat cushion will remove too but the release is stuck. (Although there are Isri seats that don't have the removable cushion, e.g. the rear seats in the RFSV and LRPV and 6x6 troop carriers.)

Put a couple of photos (https://imgur.com/a/NE01g) up, but based on what you've said there, I'd say I have Isri's.
Are there different release mechanisms? The passenger one is in the centre and easy to find.
I've taken the whole drivers seat out (needed to clean mud off the top of the tank) and the seat seems fixed to the frame.

[LandroverScott]

Put a couple of photos (https://imgur.com/a/NE01g) up, but based on what you've said there, I'd say I have Isri's.
Are there different release mechanisms? The passenger one is in the centre and easy to find.
I've taken the whole drivers seat out (needed to clean mud off the top of the tank) and the seat seems fixed to the frame.

Hi, the passenger is an ISRI and the drivers an original. ISRI has centre release button to pop the base up, the original has two pins that you need to remove an "R" clip then pull it up

cheers

[Chris078]

Thanks!
So when you say it's original, you mean it's neither an Isri or Stratos but an actual Land rover seat?

[Chris078]

Working on the basis that it is a land rover seat, does anyone have a part number?

The closest I could find is MWC4535. It looks like it could be right. It has a little release button on the side for removing the seat base which mine does not have, which makes me unsure.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Chris

The problem I have with your images is the seat covers which hide the original form. The driver's seat, apparently with the thigh support and the little lever for the seat slides/runner could be a Stratos, but without the folded bracket underneath. I think that when Defence and Stratos designed the mounting they may have used original Land Rover parts for the slides.

Does the driver's seat have a large wheel on the hinge mechanism to change the rake of the seat back, but doesn't have a quick release mechanism? (On a Stratos drivers side seat the adjusting wheel in on the LHS of the seat.)

I can't take an image of my Stratos seats till Friday, when I go out to where 50-422 is stored.

Diana

[Chris078]

Thanks Diana,
I took some more photos (http://imgur.com/a/oOx5d) and sent them to Stratos (looking at the PUB I thought it might be a Stratos) but they agree with LandRoverScott that the drivers seat is a Land Rover seat(and frame)

The passenger is definitely an ISRI, found that stamped on it this morning.

That might be a blessing as I imagine a Land rover seat base will be easier to find than a Stratos one.
Probably the same price though :(

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Chris

I think that you have two Isri seats, the drivers side is the original early type with the metal lever to release/adjust the rake of the squab and the passengers side is the later Isri design with the yellow lever/knob that adjusts the rake.

The slide/runner on the driver's seat is the same as used on the Stratos but I believe that this is a Land Rover part.

The cushion bases for both types of Irsi are available through the Land Rover parts chain, Isri will send you to Land Rover for these (I've contacted them before).

Diana

[Chris078]

Thanks Diana.
I'll have to follow up on that later.
Just discovered that I need to drop $1500 on new suspension and springs.
:(:(:(

[Chris078]

Chris

I think that you have two Isri seats, the drivers side is the original early type with the metal lever to release/adjust the rake of the squab and the passengers side is the later Isri design with the yellow lever/knob that adjusts the rake.

The slide/runner on the driver's seat is the same as used on the Stratos but I believe that this is a Land Rover part.

The cushion bases for both types of Irsi are available through the Land Rover parts chain, Isri will send you to Land Rover for these (I've contacted them before).

Diana


Is there a part number for these at all?
I rang Land Rover here in Brisbane last week and he had no idea what I was talking about.

Also, are there left side/right side seats? I just realized that all my other cars that I've had before, the tilt adjust level has been on the door side of the seat, whereas on mine, the lever is on the side closest to the centre of the car.
I wonder, is that the way they are on Perenties, or are my seats in backwards?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

There are left hand and right hand seats in the Perenties, both Isri and Stratos have the tilt adjuster lever/knob nearest the centre line of the vehicle.

The RPS (Issue 3 Mar 00 [02188] 2320-66-128-4218) seems to only list one type of Isri seat which seems to be the early type.
Isri Seat LHS 2540-66-128-7431 Isri part: 450-0180 LR part HYG4609
Isri seat RHS 2540-66-128-7432 Isri part: 450-0179 LR part HYG4608


seat cushion: 2540-66-128-4748 [Z0745/450-056] [Z5394/HYL8692] I'm assuming that Z5394 is Land Rover so the LR part number for the Isri seat base is HYL8692

[Chris078]

Thanks! sourced a new part from Sydney at quite a reasonable price.

[rathgar]

Thanks! sourced a new part from Sydney at quite a reasonable price.

For the seat base cushion? If so do you sharing from where and how much? Or PM me? Thanks

[Chris078]

PM'd