Consider buying a 2014 D4 with 165k on the clock?

[Brendan Halloran]

Hi all. I'm a newbie to this forum and am seriously considering buying a Discovery 4 in the not too distant future. I'm looking at second hand primarily, just because brand new is a bit pricey. Would you consider buying a 2014 build with 165,000 on the clock? It's a lot of mileage and I'm wondering whether it's too much even if they're mostly country kms. The price is reduced due to the mileage, but I'm not sure if it's enough. It's a TDV6 and the asking price from a dealer is $50k excluding on road costs. Any thoughts?

[LandyAndy]

Welcome aboard
Lots of KM,he must have lived in it,only done a bit over 20000km in mine.
No big issues with the My14's as yet.
They are loverly vehicles.
Andrew

[Disco-tastic]

My biggest thing would be transmission service at 100k km or before. (And maybe a second)

The diesels are also due for timing belts at 168k km which AFAIK is a BIG service (i.e. thousands of $$)

The front control arms can also wear the bushes out by then too.

Its all standard at those kms. Just do your research so you know all about it!

Cheers


Dan

[NavyDiver]

its a baby


I'm at about 330000 and still going well (D3 2005) Maintenance is needed so factor that in to the negotiations but do not be afraid of caring for it as if you do doubling the clock is highly likely IMO.

[Graeme]

Get the dealer to include the timing belt change (both belts) and serpentine belt, done prior to pick-up.

[Stuart02]

It'll still have new car warranty and presumably the option to extend which is peace of mind

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[Brendan Halloran]

Get the dealer to include the timing belt change (both belts) and serpentine belt, done prior to pick-up.

Thanks for the advice Graeme. Would you expect them to include that in the advertised price or would they want me to get that done myself? It's not at a Land Rover dealership, rather a "prestige" used car dealership.

[Brendan Halloran]

It'll still have new car warranty and presumably the option to extend which is peace of mind

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Thanks for the reply Stuart. Won't it be out of warranty anyway due to the 165k mileage, and therefore the possibility of an extended warranty is off the table?

[Graeme]

Would you expect them to include that in the advertised price or would they want me to get that done myself? It's not at a Land Rover dealership, rather a "prestige" used car dealership.You would have to get them to agree to include it in whatever price you offer and they would send it to a dealer or specialist LR workshop to have it done. In reality probably just use that its almost due as a reason to knock $5K off the price, not that it would cost that much to have it done.

[Stuart02]

Thanks for the reply Stuart. Won't it be out of warranty anyway due to the 165k mileage, and therefore the possibility of an extended warranty is off the table?

Oh yeah, ha. Thinking well at 3am. We bought our 2010 RRS with 176000 kms - clearly done it's fair share of towing too - and it's been pretty much the story above in terms of replacing most of the suspension and associated bushes (only front struts left to go!), and servicing the auto which made a big improvement to the smoothness of changes. The batteries in these things often only last a couple of years too, though you'll have a hard time getting a new one from the dealer.
We got the car for the right price to pay for all that extra ($47k) think the hardest part has been finding a mechanic I like, trust and can afford!

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[Brendan Halloran]

... think the hardest part has been finding a mechanic I like, trust and can afford!

Hi Stuart. Thanks for the info. How did you decide on where to get your RRS serviced? I'm aware that discos are not cheap to maintain. I'm in the western suburbs of Melbourne if you have any recommendations.

[Russrobe]

Hey Brendan,

I just bought one with 190k km's and am having some transmission issues, which are being fixed by the dealer under stat warranty.

I did also buy a 3 year/Unlimited km $5000/claim warranty, for when the statutory ends in 3 months, but just be weary if you consider one. They don't cover "perishable" parts some of which I question such as suspension bushes, unlike a new car warranty. Although, if i was having the trans problems i'm having now, 3 months down the track, i'd be glad I paid for it....

Just a thought.

Also pretty glad I bought from a dealer like you are at this point, as privately i'd be out of pocket $1400 and counting atm....

[LandyAndy]

This one has the 8 speed auto,its a 2014.
Andrew

[Russrobe]

Yep, don't think i'd be worried about your transmission.

[Brendan Halloran]

Yep, don't think i'd be worried about your transmission.

Is the difference between the 6 and 8 speed transmissions that significant?

[LandyAndy]

Totally different boxes.Havent heard of any 8 speed issues yet.They are used in other makes besides Land Rover and Jaguar.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Have a read of this.
One Transmission, Countless Cars: The ZF 8HP Eight-Speed (http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a9393/one-transmission-countless-cars-the-zf-8hp-eight-speed-15855273/)
Andrew

[Russrobe]

Yep the 6 speed was always a great transmission for it's era. But it's a decade old now... I would have gone for the 8 if it was in budget.

[Stuart02]

Hi Stuart. Thanks for the info. How did you decide on where to get your RRS serviced? I'm aware that discos are not cheap to maintain. I'm in the western suburbs of Melbourne if you have any recommendations.

6 different mechanics in 12 months basically! So far... I'm inner west Melbourne. PM me...

I don't know what other ppl would say but I dont think the maintenance costs are too bad compared to late model Volvos and Jeeps, for example.

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[Brendan Halloran]

So I ended up getting a brand new MY16.5 TDV6! My wife and I just weren't that keen on any vehicle with so many kms on it. We think we got a good deal, as LR is currently having an end of financial year special with free on-roads and they seem to be keen to clear out the D4 before the D5 arrives next year. We just have to wait a couple of weeks until it arrives via ship - it's an April 2016 build. Let me know if you'd like more details on the deal.

[Jafman]

So I ended up getting a brand new MY16.5 TDV6! My wife and I just weren't that keen on any vehicle with so many kms on it. We think we got a good deal, as LR is currently having an end of financial year special with free on-roads and they seem to be keen to clear out the D4 before the D5 arrives next year. We just have to wait a couple of weeks until it arrives via ship - it's an April 2016 build. Let me know if you'd like more details on the deal.

Hi Brendan,

I'd be interested to know what your deal was as I've just bought a tdv6 MY16.5 graphite - pick up on Friday all things going well!

[Brendan Halloran]

It's a TDV6 SE for $76,800 drive away. The extras we got are:

Technology pack
Leather seats
7 seats
Meridian sound system
Bi-xenon headlamps
Darkest legal tint
Rear loadspace mat
Rubber mats
Tow bar
Black & white slimline plates

How does that compare? We're not really experienced at buying cars, so it's possible we could have pushed for a better deal.

[Jafman]

That's a great deal I reckon! Mine is specced exactly the same excluding the slim plates which are always extra in WA. Not sure what the premium over standard a graphite tdv6 is but I paid $79k flat which I'm happy with! The major difference other than graphite coloured grille, vents and wheels is that power fold mirrors are standard on the graphite.

[loanrangie]

Great deal ? I have seen them for less than 50k with less klms on the clock.

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Oops thats for new , saw heading first.

[TheCannyMan]

Thanks Brendan, I got quoted $82k for an almost identically specced vehicle sans slim plates and the boot mat although that would include 3 years servicing under our corporate plan. Time to keep browsing I think!

[Brendan Halloran]

It looks like the TDV6 Graphite is around $1,200 more than the standard TDV6 here in Victoria according to the pricing calculator on the land rover website.

I forgot to mention that I had the corporate programme thrown in as well - 3 years fee servicing and roadside assist and a day at the land rover experience centre here in Melbourne.

I'm pretty stoked! Can't wait to get the disco in a few weeks!

[LandyAndy]

Another 2 newbies.AWESOME DUDES.
Pics when you get them.
ENJOY
Andrew

[Jafman]

Another 2 newbies.AWESOME DUDES.
Pics when you get them.
ENJOY
Andrew

Being delivered to my place Friday lunch time! Will post by Friday evening - assuming I stop driving! :D

[Jafman]

It looks like the TDV6 Graphite is around $1,200 more than the standard TDV6 here in Victoria according to the pricing calculator on the land rover website.

I forgot to mention that I had the corporate programme thrown in as well - 3 years fee servicing and roadside assist and a day at the land rover experience centre here in Melbourne.

I'm pretty stoked! Can't wait to get the disco in a few weeks!

Only 2 more sleeps for me! Yeah I have the roadside assist and Land Rover experience too, although I'm pretty sure they're standard. The corporate servicing isn't as far as I'm aware - that's a failure in my negotiation skills! Didn't even think of that. Very happy nonetheless!

Anyone know where/who runs the experience days in WA?

[LandyAndy]

Being delivered to my place Friday lunch time! Will post by Friday evening - assuming I stop driving! :D

Southerns or Barbagallo????,same mob anyway.
Loved going to Southerns to get mine and they had it in the showroom,it really topped off the buying experience:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/448.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/004_zps802c0e70.jpg.html)

Love it to bits,they love money being spent on them.She will be 2 in august.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/10/529.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/20160515_133332_zpstvnmlmgk.jpg.html)

Andrew

[Jafman]

Southerns or Barbagallo????,same mob anyway.
Loved going to Southerns to get mine and they had it in the showroom,it really topped off the buying experience:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/448.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/004_zps802c0e70.jpg.html)

Love it to bits,they love money being spent on them.She will be 2 in august.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/10/529.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/20160515_133332_zpstvnmlmgk.jpg.html)

Andrew

Southern's. Hmmmm may have to change plans and pick it up from the dealer. As you said it's all part of the buying experience, plus you can get things sorted immediately should something not be to your liking (not that I'm expecting this). I'll have the dark tint at delivery, then going to a third party to get paint and leather protection applied - the first planned mod if you could call it that?!

[Russrobe]

Great choice! If i had the funds atm I would have gone new too. You won't regret that.

[Brendan Halloran]

@Jafman - you should ask the dealership if you can get the corporate program - I got the feeling is not something that is negotiated as part of the purchase, rather it's simply available to those who work for a "corporate" business and can prove it with a payslip. It's worth a try.

[Jafman]

[QUOTE=Brendan Halloran;2546542]@Jafman - you should ask the dealership if you can get the corporate program - I got the feeling is not something that is negotiated as part of the purchase, rather it's simply available to those who work for a "corporate" business and can prove it with a payslip. It's worth a try.[/QUOTE

Thanks for the info, I'm talking to the sales rep later so I'll give it a shot!

[Babs]

So out of curiosity does anyone know what a SE7 SDV6 would be in $$$

Are people opting for the TDV6 because of price?

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[Brendan Halloran]

Yes, from my perspective, the SDV6 is around $15k more, and while the engine is more powerful and there might be more features that come standard instead of as a cost option with a TDV6, it's just not really necessary. However, if price were not such a consideration, of course I'd go for the top spec disco!

[Jafman]

So out of curiosity does anyone know what a SE7 SDV6 would be in $$$

Are people opting for the TDV6 because of price?

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2015 Land Rover Discovery 4 MY16 3.0 SDV6 SE Fuji White 8 Speed Command Shift Wagon - Albany Land Rover, Albany (http://albany.landroverstock.com.au/view.php/all_stock/2015_Land_Rover_Discovery_4_MY16_30_SDV6_SE_Fuji_W hite_8_Speed_Command_Shift_Wagon/10716354/)

I drove the tdv6 first and decided it has plenty of power for my needs. didn't want to tempt fate and drive the sdv6 as at roughly $80k, the tdv6 is already a big purchase!

[LandyAndy]

So out of curiosity does anyone know what a SE7 SDV6 would be in $$$

Are people opting for the TDV6 because of price?

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My TDV6 was $80K drive away at the time,it had the full size screen,reverse cam,upgraded duke box,leather,mats,upgraded headlights/DRLs,all on road costs,extended warranty,1% lease finance(heaps cheaper than my salary sacrifice could do)
Yes I wanted a SE,was going to cost $10K more,I couldnt afford it.The deal I got was much better than the 6 speed HSE at 90000km for $60K I was looking at.The 3.0 TDV6 is strong,much better than my D2 TD5 that had all the performance mods done.
Andrew

[titanix]

Yes, from my perspective, the SDV6 is around $15k more, and while the engine is more powerful and there might be more features that come standard instead of as a cost option with a TDV6, it's just not really necessary. However, if price were not such a consideration, of course I'd go for the top spec disco!


It's a TDV6 SE for $76,800 drive away. The extras we got are:

Technology pack
Leather seats
7 seats
Meridian sound system
Bi-xenon headlamps
Darkest legal tint
Rear loadspace mat
Rubber mats
Tow bar
Black & white slimline plates

How does that compare? We're not really experienced at buying cars, so it's possible we could have pushed for a better deal.

That price beats mine by a mile. Care to share what dealer you got it from?

[Brendan Halloran]

Yes, it does seem like a pretty good price based on what others have been posting recently. I'm in Melbourne, so I'm not sure if that makes it a bit cheaper than Sydney - the dealer is Melbourne City Land Rover in Port Melbourne. We went in there having booked a test drive on a 2014 TDV6 ($72k), so when they tried to up sell us to a new model, we said it would have to be very close in options and price to that. Good luck!

[titanix]

Wonder if I can order from them if all else fails and get a delivery here?. for that price i'm even willing to get to Melbourne and drive it home :)

[Brendan Halloran]

Wonder if I can order from them if all else fails and get a delivery here?. for that price i'm even willing to get to Melbourne and drive it home :)
I'm not sure if buying interstate is a good idea - hopefully others on the forum can advise on that. Also, I'm not sure whether you'll be able to get the same or similar deal that I did - there are so many variables that go into a new car purchase. Good luck though!

[LandyAndy]

I'm not sure if buying interstate is a good idea - hopefully others on the forum can advise on that. Also, I'm not sure whether you'll be able to get the same or similar deal that I did - there are so many variables that go into a new car purchase. Good luck though!

Competition has to help.
In WA there are 3 places you can buy a new Landy.In Perth there is Southern Land Rover and Barbagallos Land Rover,which are the same company.There is also 1 country dealer,Albany Land Rover,450km south of Perth.
Members on here have bought from Albany and over east.
Andrew

[Brendan Halloran]

Agreed that competition is a good thing - we have 6 dealers in Victoria - not sure if they're all separately owned or not though. For me the difference would need to be significant to even consider going down that road (pun intended!).

[LandyAndy]

Im happy with Southerns,I bought a D2 from them too.Always looked after me well.
We have 1 factory backed independant Land Rover service agent in WA,Whyatts in Geraldton,450km north of Perth.JLR dont look after us too well in WA.
Andrew

[LRD414]

Wonder if I can order from them if all else fails and get a delivery here?. for that price i'm even willing to get to Melbourne and drive it home :)


I'm not sure if buying interstate is a good idea - hopefully others on the forum can advise on that.

Don't quote me but I'm pretty sure I have read of more than one person on this forum buying from Melbourne City Land Rover from interstate, SA, NT and QLD if I remember correctly .... one guy from QLD got messed around with a Defender purchase and MLR came to the rescue.

Would be a nice way to christen the new D4 .....

Cheers,
Scott

[Brendan Halloran]

I'm picking up the Disco today! Can't wait! Hopefully the hand over doesn't take too long. I've got a generic check list of things to look for when picking up a new car, but should I be aware of any Disco-specific things to look for? Did anyone else end up getting a quote from Melbourne Land Rover? If so, what are the details? Cheers!

[Babs]

I'm picking up the Disco today! Can't wait! Hopefully the hand over doesn't take too long. I've got a generic check list of things to look for when picking up a new car, but should I be aware of any Disco-specific things to look for? Did anyone else end up getting a quote from Melbourne Land Rover? If so, what are the details? Cheers!


Congratulations and good luck for today, remember pictures are mandatory :)

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[Disco-tastic]

Congrats Brendan!

Can't wait to see photos!

Cheers

Dan

[Brendan Halloran]

I've just posted a photo of it to the "Show us your..." post.