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fatcat
14th May 2016, 05:45 PM
Hi Guys,

i need to fit 2 jerry cans in the Defender for our Simpson trip coming up,

when they are empty i will put them on the roof

can i put them sidewise on the floor below the kids feet or will they leak.

Is that safe

Thanks

Eevo
14th May 2016, 05:51 PM
try it at home before you go :)

austastar
14th May 2016, 06:48 PM
Hi,
Dad carried a Jerry can on its side (neck to the top) in a bracket along side the chassis rail of a Toyota Dyna for nearly 30 years and 200,000 km.
It sat on a wooden plank hinged at the back and held up with two long threaded bolts with wing-nuts wired together to stop them releasing.
It is still being used and doesn't leak.

Check the rubber seal and wire the lid closed to prevent 'accidental' loosening.

Cheers

pop058
14th May 2016, 07:05 PM
army did (still does ??) transport them as you propose.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/05/548.jpg

p38arover
14th May 2016, 08:08 PM
Paul, that's on edge, not on side. :angel:

I assumed he meant on the larger flat side. I carried one on the roof of my RRC like that.

Bushie
14th May 2016, 09:43 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/05/547.jpg

Just make sure the seals are top notch, especially if they are going inside.
Leaking diesel will drive you out of the vehicle with the smell.


Martyn


Martyn

d2dave
15th May 2016, 12:15 AM
As has been stated, check the seals. I have about 5 jerry cans. Some seal 100%, some don't.

A good way to test them is fill with petrol and leave in the sun and carefully open it after a couple of hours.

I had one a while ago that in the sun had built that much pressure that when I opened it the air being released blew my hat off.

Also make sure it can't move around. Many years ago I had one in the boot of my car, lying down and unrestrained, full of petrol.
It somehow managed to hook the bit where you pull to open them and I had a boot full of fuel

Xtreme
15th May 2016, 05:21 AM
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Also make sure it can't move around. ............

^^x2
I'd also suggest that you put carpet or rubber on each side as even the slightest movement will wear through the sides amazingly fast.

dromader driver
15th May 2016, 06:29 AM
err umm not in the cabin with the kids! if it all goes pear shape it is not a good look. :(

Homestar
15th May 2016, 06:40 AM
As mentioned, there are plenty of military vehicles (including my 101) that have jerry cans mounted on thier side. In the 101 holder, I actually have to put the can in upside down and then it swings up to hold it sideways. Either full or empty it doesn't leak, and neither shoud one in good condition. As mentioned though, if the worst were to happen and you had an accident and rolled the vehcile - would you want them flying around the back seat with the kids?

Toxic_Avenger
15th May 2016, 06:58 AM
One reason why LPG cylinders cannot be stored on their side is that the ability of the container to pressure release is rendered inoperable when the liquid level is covering the device. Under high temp, the vapour space builds up pressure and can deform or rupture the cylinder.
This would probably be more pronounced in petrol than diesel due to their vapourisation temps, but still something to think about.

fatcat
15th May 2016, 07:40 AM
Sweet thanks guys,

i have left on in the garage over night and all good


Cheers

DiscoClax
15th May 2016, 08:12 AM
And don't forget that you can get replacement seals for a few bucks each. I (now) always carry spares and replace any that are iffy. If I get a hand me down pre loved jerry I nearly always have to replace the seal. Cheap insurance anyway.

P.S. Only 2 jerrys for the Simpson trip? Pfft, you diesel guys are all lightweight! I had to take six... Stored on edge. And then there was the water, too... Anyone got a long range tank surplus to requirements? :D

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manic
15th May 2016, 08:52 AM
err umm not in the cabin with the kids! if it all goes pear shape it is not a good look. :(

Diesel when properly tied down in sealed jerries, no worries.

strangy
15th May 2016, 10:38 AM
In a different job we carried jerries of diesel on their side all the time.
The test before carriage was simple- lay it down and jump on it.