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Road Stone
11th July 2016, 09:39 PM
Hi All,
This happened to me this morning:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/1014.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/user/roadstone/media/Front%20Burst%20Airbag.jpg.html)
Very fortunately, I was at the LR Indie at the time. He had just pressed the off road height and puff it went. A temp replacement put in from an old car and off I go.
Also fortunately, I'm coming to Australia at the end of this week so would like to pick one up or two if my baggage allowance allows. I estimate 10kg a unit.
The unit that came off is a Delphi 2223812 & marked RNB501260 it looks like the original given the date label on it, my car being a 2007 TDV8 L322.
I'll be in Brisbane and Melbourne and would very much appreciate advice on where is the best place to get it/them?
Thanks,
Jerry
CSBrisie
11th July 2016, 10:26 PM
Duckworth Parts in Uk - buy on line - ship to Brisbane; you can ship to me if you like - just PM me. It will save you a packet as I just discovered with my two rear shockies delivered to my door within 5 days ex UK at $999 for two v $2500 from Brisbane dealer.
Cheers
Road Stone
11th July 2016, 11:07 PM
Wow great and thanks.
Let me contact them first and find out what the GO is.
Will PM you when I know.
Cheers, Jerry
rar110
12th July 2016, 05:27 AM
That's kind of good luck. That failure is on the cards for both of us.
I was looking around a couple of months ago as was thinking of a preemptive replacement. I found either Duckworths (Dan) or Island 4x4 was the best priced. Delphi seems to be the most recommended for a replacement.
I found a place in Brisbane that sells a refurbed unit which reuses the shock. I would go Delphi especially with your location.
Also I spoke to Bilstein Australia about their EAS. They no longer supply here as too many failures on Australian road conditions.
Here are part numbers I found.
LH Side RNB501550 LR032575 RNB501270
RH Side: RNB501540 LR032566 RNB501260
rar110
12th July 2016, 05:33 AM
I see yours failed at the very bottom of the bag. I concluded that mine still look at for now. But looking again I might be facing a split bag soon too.
111226
Homestar
12th July 2016, 05:47 AM
Yep, I got 2 new Delphi units delivered to my door for under a grand a few years ago from the UK - the exchange rate isn't quite as good now, but it was all under half the price I could get them for locally.
I try to buy most of may parts locally, but the difference with these was too much to ignore.
p38arover
12th July 2016, 07:07 AM
Jerry, in the AULRO Markets, Peter G has two brand new units for sale. He's in Geelong so getting them to Melbourne should be easy.
But will they fit your model? Dunno.
chaybra
12th July 2016, 07:22 AM
I had used island 4x4 in the uk. same price as mentioned earlier.
Easy job to replace too
CSBrisie
12th July 2016, 08:36 AM
rar110, can you tell me where in Brisbane I can get them rebuilt? I have two old ones now I could get redone as spares....
cheers
rar110
12th July 2016, 11:14 AM
This is their website. The do an exchange unit. From memory they did a US spec EAS, which they thought fitted ok. I was put off with reusing the strut.
http://threepointclassic.com/parts/
rar110
12th July 2016, 11:23 AM
You can just buy the Arnott bag and fit these yourself. I think the also sell these.
chaybra
12th July 2016, 11:45 AM
did you get a quote?
I requested one so will be interesting to see
chaybra
12th July 2016, 01:57 PM
So got a quote, nice that it was quick....however....still cheaper to import 2 full strut assemblies rather than just a bag....wonder if they sell many...:wasntme:
A2123 (Front) is $744.02 each including GST and freight
A 2831 (Rear) is $554.20 each including GST and freight
Road Stone
12th July 2016, 02:05 PM
Duckworth Parts in Uk - buy on line - ship to Brisbane; you can ship to me if you like - just PM me. It will save you a packet as I just discovered with my two rear shockies delivered to my door within 5 days ex UK at $999 for two v $2500 from Brisbane dealer.
Cheers
Hi Folks,
Thanks for all the suggestions.
I found out over night that the airline will not allow me to put these items in my luggage. I'd picked up there was an issue from the "Brothers in Lincoln" website where I get most of my parts (have done for over 30 years (TR8 Days!) so a little loyal).
So enquire with Dan at Duckworths and within an hour had a landed cost price Uganda! Delphi $1100.00, for the pair, courier included.
So will sort out today, They will be here on my return.
Pete: It did make me wonder what I would of done if this had happened in some remote game park or something. Very concerning and swapping for a simple Defender was on top of mind awareness yesterday LOL!
I note you can drive at 50klms/hr, still uncomfortable, a very long trip far from support and possible damage to other components.
Kai Kai belong ting ting, as they say in PNG.
Cheers, Jerry
Road Stone
12th July 2016, 02:25 PM
I see yours failed at the very bottom of the bag. I concluded that mine still look at for now. But looking again I might be facing a split bag soon too.
111226
Yes happened at the base, I think it must of been leaking for a little while as I had noted that the vehicle was settling slightly over night (dropping by 10mm or so) anyway lesson learnt.
I agree, be pro active. Thinking about it, the date stamp on the removed unit was 12/06, which means it is almost 10 years old.
Given the road conditions here + age, its not surprising I guess. Its a flexible bag that is in motion constantly. Not bad for 9.5 years.
That's a positive spin on it!
Cheers, Jerry
chaybra
12th July 2016, 02:44 PM
This did happen to me in a remote location unfortunately.
however, my brain kicked in. I used a pair of pliers and a zip tie to kink and seal the line going into the airbag. this allowed the car to drive somewhat level and not throw a fault.
i drove the car 400kms home and around for the next week whilst i waited for parts.
a sharp turn wasnt the most plesant feeling and brake lock up would happen a little more easy in the wet. but a good trick for anyone who has a blow out.
If i was really smart i would have made up a line blocking kit so i didnt have to crimp a line...but im not so i havent
rar110
12th July 2016, 05:59 PM
Hi Folks, Thanks for all the suggestions. I found out over night that the airline will not allow me to put these items in my luggage. I'd picked up there was an issue from the "Brothers in Lincoln" website where I get most of my parts (have done for over 30 years (TR8 Days!) so a little loyal). So enquire with Dan at Duckworths and within an hour had a landed cost price Uganda! Delphi $1100.00, for the pair, courier included. So will sort out today, They will be here on my return. Pete: It did make me wonder what I would of done if this had happened in some remote game park or something. Very concerning and swapping for a simple Defender was on top of mind awareness yesterday LOL! I note you can drive at 50klms/hr, still uncomfortable, a very long trip far from support and possible damage to other components. Kai Kai belong ting ting, as they say in PNG. Cheers, Jerry
Im sure I read on here that someone jacked up the corner so the bag was expended, kinked the air line and stuffed the bag with sand or grass. They had to re-stuff it but it worked ok.
A defender will also fail, just in other places. My Isuzu 110 is about as simple as it gets. On a trip the fuel tank failed in multiple places.
Road Stone
12th July 2016, 09:28 PM
This did happen to me in a remote location unfortunately.
however, my brain kicked in. I used a pair of pliers and a zip tie to kink and seal the line going into the airbag. this allowed the car to drive somewhat level and not throw a fault.
i drove the car 400kms home and around for the next week whilst i waited for parts.
a sharp turn wasnt the most plesant feeling and brake lock up would happen a little more easy in the wet. but a good trick for anyone who has a blow out.
If i was really smart i would have made up a line blocking kit so i didnt have to crimp a line...but im not so i havent
Well that's a very useful idea for the archives thanks, at least as you say it will get you home.
Leaking fuel tanks, tell me about it. Did an expedition in PNG with a 100V8, 90 and an old series 2 109. We got 18 klms into the when the S2 fuel tank started to leak.
I had read an old trick of a soap bar and rubbing it against the hole/holes until it blocks said hole.
It works! 18 days of river crossing mud dust and rough track and the soap held.
Cheers, Jerry
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