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Bohica
5th September 2016, 11:18 AM
The previous owner has put greasable joints in the prop shaft. I need a grease gun and now nothing about grease guns. Will one from fleabay or supercheap autobarn do?
What size? 250ml or 500ml or what.
Do I keep adding grease until clean grease comes out of the bearing?

Thanks

Bo

JoeFriend
5th September 2016, 12:12 PM
I got a cheap one from supercheap. Does the job. Doesn't matter bout the size, it would just mean you need to refill the gun more often

rangieman
5th September 2016, 04:46 PM
Thought this might help;)
https://youtu.be/1lZq8Yolk3o

Blknight.aus
5th September 2016, 05:11 PM
the which grease gun is a little less important than the attachments it comes with.

no, dont greae them until grease comes out. Just add one shot of grease every month or 2000-2500 km or so.

if you notice grease only weeping past one of the seals you then need to belt the yoke of the UJ in a few different directions to change the path of resistance to the grease. in a perfect world you would put your one shot of grease in, go for the monthly 50 K check out drive and when you climbed under you would notice a slight dribble of grease from each arm of the UJ.

ramblingboy42
5th September 2016, 06:12 PM
if you use cheap tools get a cheap grease gun , otherwise get a McNaught.

Rok_Dr
5th September 2016, 06:39 PM
otherwise get a McNaught.

Agreed, many years ago I bought Their pistol version on special and it is still going strong.

Cheers

Steve

rangieman
5th September 2016, 06:50 PM
if you use cheap tools get a cheap grease gun , otherwise get a McNaught.

And that`s what i own;)

Don 130
5th September 2016, 08:19 PM
I have this (http://www.alemlube.com.au/product/trigger-action-grease-gun/) one. It has the ability to deliver either high volume or high pressure, by shifting a bar above the handle. It's a handy feature.
Don.

Slunnie
5th September 2016, 10:15 PM
I use the McNaught also, a good unit.

huggies
13th September 2016, 07:00 AM
spend the extra and grab a McNaught

harro
13th September 2016, 07:27 AM
If you are only ever going to do your own u/j's and tie rod ends I would suggest you might want to look at the 85g mini grease guns.
Not the most economical way to buy grease but very portable.

I carry one in my toolbox with a few spare cartridges for big trips and give everything a once over if I have been doing a lot of water crossings.

And easier to use under the truck imo.;)

Paul.

squizzyhunter
13th September 2016, 08:13 AM
I also have the McNaught but if I was to buy again I go for this one 113863

squizzyhunter
13th September 2016, 08:19 AM
If you are only ever going to do your own u/j's and tie rod ends I would suggest you might want to look at the 85g mini grease guns.
Not the most economical way to buy grease but very portable.

I carry one in my toolbox with a few spare cartridges for big trips and give everything a once over if I have been doing a lot of water crossings.

And easier to use under the truck imo.;)

Paul.

Yep that sounds like a great idea as the McNaught is awesome but it takes up a bit of volume and weight if your touring. However it's good to not always worry if your going to run out on the next squeeze (probably why my 110 is overloaded as that mentality holds true for too many things for me)

Tombie
13th September 2016, 12:35 PM
I have an 85g I take on trips. Otherwise I have this:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/628.jpg

Debacle
13th September 2016, 03:30 PM
If you've got a compressor, I've found an air operated gun to be easiest to use when lying underneath the car.

scarry
13th September 2016, 06:10 PM
Get the one you can use in one hand like in Tombies pic.

The other type that have a lever and have to be held with two hands can be a nuisance to use at times.

As others have said,if you want quality,buy quality,if not a cheapie may do for a while.

I also prefer one that takes cartridges.

rick130
13th September 2016, 06:58 PM
the which grease gun is a little less important than the attachments it comes with.

no, dont greae them until grease comes out. Just add one shot of grease every month or 2000-2500 km or so.

if you notice grease only weeping past one of the seals you then need to belt the yoke of the UJ in a few different directions to change the path of resistance to the grease. in a perfect world you would put your one shot of grease in, go for the monthly 50 K check out drive and when you climbed under you would notice a slight dribble of grease from each arm of the UJ.

Hmm, just as a contrary viewpoint, I was always taught and have practiced for quite a few decades that you grease until the seals purge.
It's also what Tom Wood Driveshafts recommend.


We are often asked about the frequency or type of grease to use when servicing a drive shaft. The answer has always been; "we believe a frequent and thorough greasing is more important than the type of grease you use". This is primarily because, one of the main results of a proper is a "flushing out" of any contaminates. It seems that a little grease and dirt make an excellent grinding compound. While greasing, if you pump in grease until you see clean grease come out past ALL the seals, you will insure that most of the contaminants will be washed away.

Tom Wood's Custom Drive Shafts - Drive Shaft Maintenance - Grease (http://www.customdriveshafts.com/Grease.asp)

Pedro_The_Swift
14th September 2016, 11:27 AM
You will hear it purge too,, :cool:

S3ute
14th September 2016, 12:12 PM
Hello from Brisbane.

Like everything quality has a price and in many cases quality has had its day. I bought a couple of new guns in the last year or so that really were pretty poor quality despite having a name brand on the box.

The older stuff bought second hand can be pretty good.

I have a couple of old McNaught's in the workshop from the 1960s which are excellent for general use including my boat.

But I also have a small Tecalemit gun in the tool roll. These are UK made and were part of the tool kit of a lot of British cars in the day - mine came from a swap meet and is a nice bit of kit.

Cheers,

Neil

vnx205
14th September 2016, 01:04 PM
... ....
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But I also have a small Tecalemit gun in the tool roll. These are UK made and were part of the tool kit of a lot of British cars in the day - mine came from a swap meet and is a nice bit of kit.

Cheers,

Neil

I'm still using the one that came with my 1948 Austin A40.

No, I'm not that old. It was second hand when I bought it in the mid 60s.

S3ute
14th September 2016, 04:12 PM
I'm still using the one that came with my 1948 Austin A40.

No, I'm not that old. It was second hand when I bought it in the mid 60s.

Mine was from a Jaguar tool kit, but I guess that is just name dropping...............

Cheers,

Neil

Toxic_Avenger
15th September 2016, 09:08 PM
Has anyone had any experience with these?
I'm assuming they work with the standard grease nipples / zerk fittings?

Macnaught KZD
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/561.jpg

Macnaught KZDXL
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/562.jpg

rick130
15th September 2016, 11:45 PM
Has anyone had any experience with these?
I'm assuming they work with the standard grease nipples / zerk fittings?

Macnaught KZD
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/561.jpg

Macnaught KZDXL
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/562.jpg

Yep, the long needle works well at getting into the centring bearing on a DC shaft on a Deefer, although you still need to pull the floor out to do it.
They also work fine in a standard nipple.

TA, Bearquip have the needle point on the shelf, and if you see Greg tell him Rick that used to be from Murrurundi says G'day. :D

Toxic_Avenger
16th September 2016, 05:43 AM
TA, Bearquip have the needle point on the shelf, and if you see Greg tell him Rick that used to be from Murrurundi says G'day. :D

I will do Rick, thanks for the tip off. Cheers

CraigE
17th September 2016, 05:23 PM
As Rick130 said I was always told by numerous mechanics to pump until purged, not keep going but listen for psst as it pushes out and stop, pushes out the crud from the seals. However too much can damage seals.
I have had 2 cheap grease guns for years without any dramas but also have a compressor gun, that I have never used as it takes an odd sized cartridge.

Toxic_Avenger
17th September 2016, 05:30 PM
Ended up picking up some of the needle adaptor fittings for my mcnaught gun. Have not yet had the chance to use them, but I will mention that the longer needle adapter pictured above has a much finer point which is easier to get into the ball detent of the zerk

Graekynn
30th October 2021, 09:41 AM
Sorry to exhume this thread, but no grease gun threads I found answer the question about whether a high pressure grease gun (~10000psi) is suitable for greasing uni joints, ball joints etc. on a defender.

Haynes manual calls for a low pressure gun for uni joints, so I want to know if a high pressure gun can be used without damaging seals etc. Cheers!

mylesaway
30th October 2021, 10:50 AM
Sorry to exhume this thread, but no grease gun threads I found answer the question about whether a high pressure grease gun (~10000psi) is suitable for greasing uni joints, ball joints etc. on a defender.

Haynes manual calls for a low pressure gun for uni joints, so I want to know if a high pressure gun can be used without damaging seals etc. Cheers!

Depends entirely on the operator...

If it's possible, change the setting over to low pressure-high volume setting.

Try to work in a low noise environment and slowly pump the gun until you hear the popping sound of air escaping past the UJ seals and/or if you feel resistance
against the grease gun lever.

'Less grease more often' is the preferable way to grease rather than pumping away furiously trying to replace all the grease in the UJ.(and risk popping the seals in the UJ's)

gromit
30th October 2021, 04:59 PM
Sorry to exhume this thread, but no grease gun threads I found answer the question about whether a high pressure grease gun (~10000psi) is suitable for greasing uni joints, ball joints etc. on a defender.

Haynes manual calls for a low pressure gun for uni joints, so I want to know if a high pressure gun can be used without damaging seals etc. Cheers!

You'll only reach high pressures if the grease has nowhere to escape.
As already mentioned, listen for the noise as grease escapes or look for it.
I don't think you can damage seals in UJ's by pumping grease past them.

I always used a HP grease gun but in recent years reverted to an old Tecalemit gun that used to come in toolkits with British cars & motorcycles.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ZyIAAOSw7gpdjLB-/s-l640.jpg


Colin

Tombie
30th October 2021, 05:52 PM
The Milwaukee units never caused me any problems.

BathurstTom
30th October 2021, 07:55 PM
if you use cheap tools get a cheap grease gun , otherwise get a McNaught.
My McNaught is still going well after 40 years.

W&KO
30th October 2021, 08:31 PM
Just trying to work out how to use the ultrasonic grease gun……on the drove shafts [emoji6]

ramblingboy42
31st October 2021, 09:22 AM
whats an ultrasonic grease gun?

W&KO
31st October 2021, 05:41 PM
whats an ultrasonic grease gun?

You listen to the bearing while adding grease……..therefor not much good for prop-shafts.

PhilipA
31st October 2021, 08:09 PM
I generally use a smaller pistol grip gun with a flexible hose and ground down head so that I don't have to continually move the car backwards and forwards to have the nipples point directly down.

I also have a needle point which I use to refresh the grease in the ball joints , seeing my boots died about 7 years ago, and I made up new boots out of old tube.
Something like this one
Small Grease Gun with One 3 oz. Cartridge - Bearing Grease - Hubs, Drums, Bearings, & Parts - Products (trailerparts.com) (https://trailerparts.com/small-grease-gun-w-1-cartridge-3-oz.html)
Regards PhilipA

ozscott
31st October 2021, 08:59 PM
FLEXIGUN 450G - GREASE GUN - Macnaught (https://au.macnaught.com/fluid-handling/macnaught/grease-equipment/grease-pumps/flexigun-450g-pistol-grip)

This is very good kit.

Cheers

mylesaway
1st November 2021, 03:34 AM
FLEXIGUN 450G - GREASE GUN - Macnaught (https://au.macnaught.com/fluid-handling/macnaught/grease-equipment/grease-pumps/flexigun-450g-pistol-grip)

This is very good kit.

Cheers

Gets my vote as well..

I must have small hands as I found other brands uncomfortable to try and grip and squeeze.

I have also always added a 30" extension to mine. Found when greasing farm machinery (grain harvesters, hay balers etc) it was easier to be able to hold the gun
at chest height and use the extension to reach up to difficult grease nipples. Also good for trucks and trailers. Lay on your back on a floor creeper with gun on your chest and reach up and grease away as you push your way along under the truck etc...If I were doing more of it these days, I would invest in a cordless one.

Mcnaught also make a lot of handy accessorys as well...

Check refill cartridge size as well. 450gm size is readily available from most of the major oil companys, suppliers, servos etc...

350RRC
6th November 2021, 07:52 PM
Regardless of the gun, the best thing out is a clip on nozzle that goes on the nipples.

Used mine multiple times today just greasing the FEL (with 4 in 1) on the Deutz.

Quick, clean and absolutely no issues disconnecting from each nipple. One of the best things I've bought ($30 ish) that has totally transformed a tiresome chore.

And it works on RRC propshaft uni's.

DL

ozscott
6th November 2021, 08:30 PM
Regardless of the gun, the best thing out is a clip on nozzle that goes on the nipples.

Used mine multiple times today just greasing the FEL (with 4 in 1) on the Deutz.

Quick, clean and absolutely no issues disconnecting from each nipple. One of the best things I've bought ($30 ish) that has totally transformed a tiresome chore.

And it works on RRC propshaft uni's.

DLYep they are great. I have the McNaught one and it works well. Cheers

QUICK RELEASE COUPLER LUBEMATE | OIL PUMPS - Macnaught - Macnaught (https://au.macnaught.com/fluid-handling/lubemate/oil-equipment/oil-pumps/quick-release-coupler-lubemate)

gruntfuttock
8th November 2021, 06:14 AM
They are great, i have one, although it doesn’t have a red lever so i wonder if that makes it more messy ? Just a thought.

ozscott
8th November 2021, 10:58 AM
They are great, i have one, although it doesn’t have a red lever so i wonder if that makes it more messy ? Just a thought.Yep mate the red lever is where it is at. Cheers

Saitch
19th May 2025, 11:12 AM
Does anyone have a cordless grease gun? I have an 18v Milwaukee battery at the ready, but the price for their 'Skin' is a bit up there, for my pocket!


Edit: I have a compressor in each shed, so is a compressor gun more the go for me?

Tins
19th May 2025, 11:37 AM
Does anyone have a cordless grease gun? I have an 18v Milwaukee battery at the ready, but the price for their 'Skin' is a bit up there, for my pocket!


Edit: I have a compressor in each shed, so is a compressor gun more the go for me?

That 'Waukee gun is awesome, my local indie has one, but it's eyewatering for the DIYer.

Saitch
19th May 2025, 11:49 AM
That 'Waukee gun is awesome, my local indie has one, but it's eyewatering for the DIYer.

Yes. The local, mobile Diesel/Farm machinery service bloke has one. That's where I got the idea. He didn't tell me the price though! [biggrin]

shack
19th May 2025, 01:10 PM
You might be able to find a knock off skin for the Milwaukee.

We have a cheap ~ $200 one of no fixed brand or style, is pretty good really.

V8Ian
19th May 2025, 02:57 PM
https://www.amazon.com.au/VEVOR-Cordless-82-74Mpa-Electric-Professional/dp/B0CQNWFH2P'source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3KG78H92LQOC9

Really mate? How often do you use it? I'll stick to my McNaught manual pump jobbie.

Tins
19th May 2025, 04:14 PM
https://www.amazon.com.au/VEVOR-Cordless-82-74Mpa-Electric-Professional/dp/B0CQNWFH2P'source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3KG78H92LQOC9

Really mate? How often do you use it? I'll stick to my McNaught manual pump jobbie.

My OKA likes grease. That could be an ok thing for me.

Saitch
19th May 2025, 05:06 PM
https://www.amazon.com.au/VEVOR-Cordless-82-74Mpa-Electric-Professional/dp/B0CQNWFH2P'source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3KG78H92LQOC9

Really mate? How often do you use it? I'll stick to my McNaught manual pump jobbie.

Well, between the tractor with the 4 in 1 FEL and flail, the ride-on with grease nipples low to the ground and the ATV, there's a fair bit of regular use. Not to mention that my old Tojo 'tilly has 2 grease nipples per corner leaf sprung suspension, which I like to give a squirt to after each Moreton trip.

shack
19th May 2025, 07:27 PM
VEVOR Cordless Grease Gun, 82.74Mpa, 990 mm Long Hose, Electric Grease Gun Kit Professional High Pressure Battery Powered Grease Gun with Carrying Case, Battery and Charger Included, Black : Amazon.com.au: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com.au/VEVOR-Cordless-82-74Mpa-Electric-Professional/dp/B0CQNWFH2P'source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3KG78H92LQOC9)

Really mate? How often do you use it? I'll stick to my McNaught manual pump jobbie.Was that question for me?

Saitch
19th May 2025, 08:11 PM
Was that question for me?

I was a little confused myself. [biggrin]

Slunnie
19th May 2025, 09:26 PM
https://www.amazon.com.au/VEVOR-Cordless-82-74Mpa-Electric-Professional/dp/B0CQNWFH2P'source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A3KG78H92LQOC9

Really mate? How often do you use it? I'll stick to my McNaught manual pump jobbie.

I think there is a real trend to overcomplicate things with tech. Perhaps I'm a bit of a luddite, but I see value in sticking with my McNaught manual pump as well. I think the extra effort you have to make to squeeze the handle is offset by how compact and light they are, and there are no battery charge or obsolescence issues, so the manual pump will still be useable in another 10 years.

shack
19th May 2025, 09:39 PM
I think for home use that's correct, but we aren't.

We've had air operated, pistol grip, lever action and cordless.

They all have their place, but if you are doing a lot of greasing the cordless is handy for sure.

We have been using the clip on nozzles for years, and the latest revision is much more Slimline and works very well, better than the earlier ones.

Tombie
20th May 2025, 05:48 AM
After seeing the boys on site trying to grease up a WA900 manually with no success, then switch to the Milwaukee 18v gun and that grease just start a flowing! - I’m sold on them…

V8Ian
20th May 2025, 06:48 AM
Actually for Saitch, but could apply to anyone in a nonprofessional situation.

Saitch
20th May 2025, 08:49 AM
Actually for Saitch, but could apply to anyone in a nonprofessional situation.

As you're no doubt aware , Ian, I'm a very busy man! :cool:

V8Ian
20th May 2025, 09:45 AM
As you're no doubt aware , Ian, I'm a very busy man! :cool:
[bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf]

Tins
20th May 2025, 12:17 PM
Timely or what? On the OKA fb page.
Log in to Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1KGeEuKUtK/'mibextid=wwXIfr)

I will find a way to share it if this doesn’t work.

Saitch
20th May 2025, 02:56 PM
Timely or what? On the OKA fb page.
Log in to Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1KGeEuKUtK/'mibextid=wwXIfr)

I will find a way to share it if this doesn’t work.

They won't let just any old ocker view it, JT.

Tins
20th May 2025, 03:11 PM
Copy/paste


have always had a sour relationship with grease guns. $20 ones are terrible, $300 alemlube ones are just as bad and I have forever had air lock problems and hours of swearing and being converted in grease trying to do a simple lube job.

Enter this bad boy, How I have survived this long without one is these is mind blowing. Instantly primed and works brilliantly. I reckon for on the road trips I'll use the digger lid cartridge and kajo adaptor but for around home to save a few bucks I'll use normal cartridges.


If you, like me have a love hate relationship with grease guns, do yourself a favour and get one of these !! Not cheap, but worth every cent in my opinion. I got mine with the 3/4" rattle gun as a combo and there isn't much that won't undo either.




193324

Saitch
20th May 2025, 03:58 PM
Copy/paste



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I'll be hung, drawn and quartered at this rate. The diesel bloke I mentioned earlier, has the rattle gun, too. A weapon.

Tins
20th May 2025, 04:11 PM
I'll be hung, drawn and quartered at this rate. The diesel bloke I mentioned earlier, has the rattle gun, too. A weapon.
3/4 M18 rattler is what began my ‘Waukee journey. Mine is ten years old now but still undoes anything I point it at. The new ones are insane.

ozscott
20th May 2025, 08:17 PM
3/4 M18 rattler is what began my ‘Waukee journey. Mine is ten years old now but still undoes anything I point it at. The new ones are insane.

I love the Milwaukee rattlers. I have the M12 brushless Stubby and it has a crazy amount of grunt for such a tiny bit of kit. Makes very light work of tyre changes with the wheel brake oe torque wrench for the last bit to ensure no overnighting. Cheers

Tombie
24th May 2025, 08:10 AM
I have the big boy rattler also! What a beast, never let me down.