View Full Version : Winch isolator necessity.
Russrobe
10th September 2016, 07:29 PM
So after far too long contemplating where i was going to mount this damn winch isolator, i gave up and just finished wiring it up without it.
Just wondering how many of you did the same if not where did you mount yours?
Also is it really needed? Has anyone heard of a winch powering up by itself? Or is it overkill.
Anyway if it's really required I'll have to get some more heavy duty leads cut. Which will be a bitch... And probably require another 4 hours procrastination...
Cheers
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Russ
jon3950
10th September 2016, 08:17 PM
This is a very interesting question and I look forward to hearing the answers from the learned. 
I've never fitted one and never had a problem. The more I think about it though the more I think you should. The thought of having an electrical circuit in your vehicle that cannot be isolated just seems wrong.
I am in the throes of fitting a winch to the Defender and am currently working out all the wiring. I'm planning on fitting an isolator this time around.
Cheers,
Jon
Mungus
10th September 2016, 08:20 PM
I'd be fixing that left hand +ve connection on the main battery. Full flat surface connection.
What winch did you fit?
Russrobe
10th September 2016, 08:38 PM
I'd be fixing that left hand +ve connection on the main battery. Full flat surface connection.
What winch did you fit?
Ah true, seems to be on an angle. Just had to disconnect everything and remove the aux battery to connect the -ve. Runva Premium 11000...
I tried several positions under the bonnet to mount the isolator and the only possible option i can see is beneath the battery isolator...Which may have enough room..
Kinda wanted to keep the battery cover.
Don't want to drill into the bull bar...
Mungus
10th September 2016, 08:59 PM
Russrobe, I believe you just fitted the Summit bar. I'm fitting mine next week (myself) with the same winch. I believe the winch solenoid sits on a plate recessed from the top of the bar. Is there room on that plate to fit the isolator?
PS Happy to hear the 11XP fits.
Russrobe
10th September 2016, 09:17 PM
Russrobe, I believe you just fitted the Summit bar. I'm fitting mine next week (myself) with the same winch. I believe the winch solenoid sits on a plate recessed from the top of the bar. Is there room on that plate to fit the isolator?
PS Happy to hear the 11XP fits.
I needed the fairlead spacer kit Mungus, mines a ARB Deluxe bar as it's a 2010 D4 but if it fits mine I doubt you'll have any dramas.
Hmm good idea, i will have a look, because they'd already run the cables from the control box to the battery area for me, i didn't think to put it in the other end.. Makes more sense now you mention it.
Mungus
10th September 2016, 09:29 PM
Not sure how much water would affect the isolator though? I've had one mounted low on a Cruiser tray back for the hydraulic tipper and it never caused an issue. Speaking of water, the wireless unit within the solenoid is not waterproof. I sealed along the plastic box joint and wiring entries with some Sika sealant to improve.
Ozzy119
11th September 2016, 05:57 AM
I keep the positive unconnected & cable tied nearby, with a spare spanner in the rear cargo box for fitting if needs. For the mount of time I need to use the thing, mainly just servicing its motor, I don't see reason to keep it always wired in.
I feel more comfortable that way.
TuffRR
11th September 2016, 07:04 AM
I keep the positive unconnected & cable tied nearby, with a spare spanner in the rear cargo box for fitting if needs. For the mount of time I need to use the thing, mainly just servicing its motor, I don't see reason to keep it always wired in.
I feel more comfortable that way.
Pretty much same thing here.  Given the lack of space in these things, an isolator was a complex solution to a simple problem.
Russrobe
11th September 2016, 08:03 AM
Might end up going that way myself. In fact that would also save me from hacking away at the battery box lid any more too, as it can just be removed for winching. 
Speaking of servicing, apparently i need to run the rope out and bring it back in under tension before use..
LRD414
11th September 2016, 08:08 AM
I keep the positive unconnected & cable tied nearby, with a spare spanner in the rear cargo box for fitting if needs
What about a heavy duty Anderson Powerpole? No spanner required and small footprint.
PowerPole 180 Housing Only - Black [1381G1] - $17.19 (http://andersonconnect.com.au/store/index.php'main_page=product_info&cPath=36_44&products_id=235)
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Mine site vehicles often have similar for jump starting, except in dual cable.
Anderson SB175 175 Amp Housing Only - Grey [940] - $12.74 (http://andersonconnect.com.au/store/index.php'main_page=product_info&cPath=36_39&products_id=59)
Cheers,
Scott
austastar
11th September 2016, 08:58 AM
Hi,
     On my 130 cc, I put the isolator on the front wall of the battery box.
The key for the switch tucks down beside it under the floor matting.
From there I ran the cable back to the rear of the cab on the driver's side to meet up with a future battery installation under the tray.
Cables then go forward along chasis rails and up to a second isolator mounted in the engine bay, but the contacts are under the rh guard cover.
Then the cables go down beside the air cleaner box to the switching relays.
These are presently mounted to a light mount  on the bull bar and need to be mounted else where so I can put some driving lights on.
Cheers
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JoeFriend
11th September 2016, 01:24 PM
I would definitely fit something to isolate it. I had my car broken into, they took my wireless winch remote (along with nanocom and my owners manual of all things, with my full service history) - I have no doubt they tried to operate the winch before giving up and moving on.
Worth it just for that in my opinion
Tombie
11th September 2016, 05:08 PM
Never fitted an isolator and don't intend to...
Even if it activates it can't do any damage on my vehicle (hook never kept attached - cable ties hold eyelet to the bar).
I haven't found an *affordable* isolator either that will handle a serious winching session...
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