Classics with dual batteries - whats your air filter arrangements?

[incisor]

What are people with dual batteries in their classics doing for air filtration?

[rrturboD]

I just cut off the trumpet, and eventually changed to a shorter defender style when I put the snorkle on.

[PhilipA]

Just remember to put an AGM battery in that tray, as the MAF doesn't like acidic vapour.
I made up a fibreglass vent over the top of the battery and cut a hole in the radiator support.
After a friend swamped his motor on just a country road I then got a snorkel.
Regards Philip A

[rangieman]

Yep cut the trumpet off ;)
I never had a problem running a lead acid battery:cool:

[incisor]

thanks

now to find one :p

[pop058]

thanks

now to find one :p

A trumpet, a snorkel or a battery ?

[PhilipA]

You can get a bigger battery in by flipping the radiator bracket and cutting a bit off the side of it.
I forget the details not as it was 11 years ago but it is pretty obvious what is needed.
Regards Philip A

[incisor]

A trumpet, a snorkel or a battery ?

an original air cleaner and bracket... ;)

[pop058]

an original air cleaner and bracket... ;)

I maybe able to help you with that as I have the rollover wreck at my shed and his new one as well. I have to take the (your :D) ARB front bar off it.

[incisor]

excellent!

:D

[gavinwibrow]

Like this?

[BigJon]

My "one day" plan for dual batteries in my classic is to put the second in the load space. My spare tyre lives out the back, so I would cut a hole in the floor where the spare used to live and recess it in there.
Somewhat similar to the dual battery system in my L322.

[PhilipA]

Like this?
Looks great with a TD5 but less easy with a V8.

Easiest conversion for snorkel is for LRA snorkel to be purchased and a hole made in the side of the aircleaner for the adaptor. That is if the snorkels are made any more.
Regards Philip A

[superquag]

Have a close(r) look at Gavin's pic... note the gas-struts holding up the bonnet. Brilliant layout and works beautifully.

[PhilipA]

Ah Superquag I don't know if you are referring to my post or not.
I did have a close look.
The problem with a V8 is that the inlet pipe /throttle body is longer , further back and at right angles , not pointing forward, and then there is a flapper or MAF to fit.
I looked at putting an air cleaner there but there was never enough room for a stock air cleaner or a Donaldson of enough capacity. One option was to remove the big washer bottle and put the air cleaner on an angle back, but AFAIR this didn't fit either.
In the end I did the side entry thing , which many purists derided at the time but in practice caused no problems with blocking air filters etc.
Regards Philip A

[superquag]

Not really, my post was completely 'off-topic' or 'sub-topic' to be pedantic... and aimed at the non-observant among us, who missed presence (?) of a Foreign Part on top of the fender. - Lower mounting for gas strut.
Seriously, along with the top tailgate mount modification, re-designing the bonnet support system is a 'must'.

After all, what other car needs it's bonnet raised so often ? :wasntme:

[Mercguy]

No mod required to air cleaner. Mines in the rear rhs void behind the wheelarch. :D

[Baggy]

Hi All,

Understand off topic but the bonnet in my 92 Rangie is so light when compared to my 81 2 dr bonnet ....

Don't think one gas strut will support it.....

Gavin .....lovely conversion on day I'll come by and take a look at Bessie .....

superquag....re positioning on gas strut rear window is on my to do list .....the number of times I've had to pull over to close it after driving off can be annoying especially when leaving a patrol or land cruiser at the lights :D

Cheers

Baggy

[superquag]

"...the number of times I've had to pull over to close it after driving off can be annoying especially when leaving a patrol or land cruiser at the lights..."

Show-off...:p

[PhilipA]

New catches are very cheap and economical when they are only needed once every 20 years.
Regards Philip A

[superquag]

... Never had to replace ANY door or tail-door latches or mechanisms, or even adjust any of them in my '89 Pajero...
- Even the HVAC fan-switch was original, as was the indicator assembly. :wasntme:

- IMHO, 20 years is barely 'middle-aged'... (sez this 60's+ bloke...:p)


Seriously, When I last drove a nice LSE, the top glass popped open twice on a -sealed road - country run. Possibly assisted by the low-pressure area behind the car.
I suspect the body shell can move enough to allow an otherwise correct alignment to 'disengage'. - This (over-centre) modification keeps pressure on the glass top to stay 'down', therefore any momentary unlatching will not be taken advantage of, so to speak..

[PhilipA]

There have been many many posts about RRC latches over the years.
I had them go on the Tanami and replaced them on 2RRCs. I have also pulled them apart to see if it is possible to repair them. It is with a bit of weld, grinding and patience .

The basic problem is that the latches depend on two plates overlapping each other . Once the corners of the plates wear rounded to less than 90 degrees, the pressure of jiggling causes them to pop. It helps to have them correctly adjusted also so that the plate connected to the control rod is as far towards the lock as possible.Ie the tailgate only opens on the last bit of button travel.

Once you replace them they will be OK for another 20 years.

I doubt whether overcentring the struts will keep the dust out on a rough track as the tailgate will still bounce up and down if the catches are old and let go.

Regards Philip A

[superquag]

Agree, the best way to fix a problem is always at it's cause - not symptoms.
Regardless, keeping the back 'gate' closed - by whatever means - is preferable to it flying open at speed, the decompression effects like an airliner in the movies... - don't ask how I know !:p:twisted::p

Pity no-one invented and marketed a one-piece replacement, either side or top hinging.

[gavinwibrow]

Don't know about marketed, but there was at least 1 UK company providing single lift up rear doors for RRCs. However, like my old EH wagon, the twin system provides extra room to sit, have a cuppa etc. Wouldn't be without it and have wished the early discos came with that option too.

[pop058]

single piece tailgate like this one :)

[superquag]

... YES ! ...

[PhilipA]

I hope that the one piece tailgate includes the posts that fit into the sockets on the body, as these and the windscreen are the only things that hold the turret in place in a 2 door RRC.
I recall I pulled the windscreen in mine to have the A pillars welded where they had cracked at the base, and the amount of sideways movement of the turret was astounding.
Gluing the roof on with Sikaflex helped a bit.
This is where the Disco body is so much stronger than an RRC with that BIG loop around the back door as well as a glued in screen..
Regards Philip A

[pop058]

meanwhile back on topic, found this pic :). note the location of the PS reservoir.

[superquag]

meanwhile back on topic, found this pic :). note the location of the PS reservoir.

. . . Elegant solution. :D

(Good excuse to re-new the reservoir hoses...)