All New Discovery spotted ...

[Rockylizard]

Gday...

Bumped into to this today -

https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-news/all-new-land-rover-discovery-spotted-in-australia/?utm_source=Practical+Motoring+Newsletter&utm_campaign=88a4ca4524-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_12_16&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b370c358c4-88a4ca4524-174555205

I hope that comes through as an 'active' URL ... if not I guess just copy and paste it into your browser - as they say :(

Cheers - John

[shanegtr]

Good to see they fixed the auto lowering of the suspension at 50km/h

There are two offroad suspension heights; +40mm for speeds of up to 80km/h, and +75mm for speeds below 50km/h, unlike the older model which auto-lowered to normal height above 50km/h unless you had one of various aftermarket mods to fix it. This addresses a problem I once used an entire feature article to complain about – many Aussie tracks require high clearance but you often travel above 50km/h. No more lowering of the car and then the compressor complaining about overheating as you jack it back it!

[Chops]

Hmmm,, nice. :cool:
I rather like them, and all they're gadgets, and good to see the towing capacity is still the same. I had the chance to wait for one of these, but I'm never sure about the first years of any car. I always feel its best to wait until its been ironed out a little first.

[101RRS]

What are the styling differences between it and the Disco Sport - they look the same.

[cuppabillytea]

Hmmm,, nice. :cool:
I rather like them, and all they're gadgets, and good to see the towing capacity is still the same. I had the chance to wait for one of these, but I'm never sure about the first years of any car. I always feel its best to wait until its been ironed out a little first.

I see you've been around a bit yourself. Good job Markus. You are now on my list of top blokes.:BigThumb:

[LandyAndy]

What are the styling differences between it and the Disco Sport - they look the same.

Its more like the current RRS than the Disco sport.
The Disco Sport is smaller,its the old freeloader.Quite a nice vehicle to drive,much nicer(except for the grunt)than our petrol turbo Territory to drive,basically the same shape and size too.
Andrew

[cuppabillytea]

Having owned a Territory and driven the Disco Sport for a few days, I'll second that as a pretty accurate description. Looks a lot like the terry too.

[Celtoid]

Good to see they fixed the auto lowering of the suspension at 50km/h

Unless MY14 onwards is different, I think you'll find the D4 has never lowered at 50KPH. Gongs come on around 40 something .... maybe 43 (and that's where a lot of armchair magazine journo experts have often quoted lowering at around 40KPH) but my MY10 and 13 lower at 55KPH .... every time.

It's only 5kph ... but hey ...

[Celtoid]

Remove it from all the other LR cars and it looks great and has lots of great features.

But to me it gets lost when you put it in the pack. It's been said before but I think it's lost its Discovery identity and looks more like a RR.

Other more practical negative observations:

I'm sure there are good reasons to make it bigger than a current D4 and they must have outweighed the loss of an awesome turning circle. Anybody know?

The electric 3rd row seats have merit (but an app .... really?) but once again at cost and weight. The middle row electrics are a joke.... press a button (at almost exactly the same spot you'd release the seat-back in a current D4) to get the back to tilt and then manually shift the rest ..... Why bother?

The photo from behind with the rear row lifted shows a mess of cargo blind(?) and other flaps ... looks very disjointed. I saw a photo in another magazine with some sort of panel with wires attached in a vertical position maybe the cargo blind again?) .... but it looked like an afterthought/pin-on feature.

And why kill the flat floor and change to the new middle row folding config? It seems like an unnecessary redesign that probably comes with a cost.

Anyway ... time will tell I suppose once they are here in the flesh.

[scarry]

It looks very much like a Discovery sport on steroids

No mention of tyre sizes....

If there are no 18's for it,there won't be much chance of one at our place.

[shanegtr]

Unless MY14 onwards is different, I think you'll find the D4 has never lowered at 50KPH. Gongs come on around 40 something .... maybe 43 (and that's where a lot of armchair magazine journo experts have often quoted lowering at around 40KPH) but my MY10 and 13 lower at 55KPH .... every time.

It's only 5kph ... but hey ...
MY D3 tells me to slow down at 40km/h and then gives the lowered message at 50km/h

[Graeme]

Good to see they fixed the auto lowering of the suspension at 50km/hIt has the same specs as the L405. I wonder if OR1 is still not user-selectable like the L405 whereby OR1 can only achieved by selecting off-road height above about 40 kph or by travelling faster than 50 kph whilst at full off-road height after which it will also remain at OR1 when below 50 kph.

[MrLandy]

Its even more of a generic luxury car-like vehicle than i ever imagined. Nothing pragmatic whatsoever for a 4WD vehicle. Makes the luxurious D4 look decidedly utilitarian.

[lardy]

So clever that everything in the range now looks exactly the same.
Inspiring stuff...

[Celtoid]

MY D3 tells me to slow down at 40km/h and then gives the lowered message at 50km/h

55 in a D4 .... been that way since 2009. Interesting that RRs have different speed parameters.

[Graeme]

The D4 speedo might be showing 55 but my D4 dropped at 51 actual speed, ie over 50.

[Celtoid]

The D4 speedo might be showing 55 but my D4 dropped at 51 actual speed, ie over 50.

That is a very good point. The speedo inaccuracies, in this case under-reading with standard shoes on a D4 have been well covered. I'm pretty sure it would be the case for most other vehicle manufacturers.

However, I'd wager most journo's are not using a non OEM GPS to check the speeds, or a radar or laser, they'd just be using the speedo ... like most owners. GPS also suffer from latency issues from time to time as well.

My apologies to shanegtr if he was quoting on precise actuals Vs indicated on the car's speedo.

My point always was around journos having limited knowledge of true specs, parameters, features, etc., and just blindly quoting what they think they have seen, have been told versus reality. E.g., the 40kph gong actually lowering the car Vs just warning, confusing TC controls, difficult to get to recovery points, etc., etc.

[shanegtr]

I was just quoting what my D3 does via the speedo

[BobD]

It is interesting that the car knows the real speed and then adjusts it up by the settings in the config file. I was looking at stuff with the GAP iiD and found the true speed feed that is less than the speedo speed. It obviously uses that for the lowering speed as well.