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feral
14th December 2005, 11:45 AM
I am setting up the gps/laptop in the Discovery. The software that I will be running is Oziexplorer.
The maps that I would like to use, at this stage is the Natmap Raster 250k series. These are available as a 4 CD set @ $99 or as a 2 DVD set @ $120.
The maps are available FREE Of COST if you download them from Geoscience Australia. The whole 513 maps are available.
My question is...would it be illegal to copy the CD or DVD set even though they are free to download?
Cheers,
Lyndon.
Ace
14th December 2005, 11:49 AM
I dont see why, everyone else pirates much worse, and if no one finds out who gets hurt?
Reads90
14th December 2005, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Feral
I am setting up the gps/laptop in the Discovery. The software that I will be running is Oziexplorer.
The maps that I would like to use, at this stage is the Natmap Raster 250k series. These are available as a 4 CD set @ $99 or as a 2 DVD set @ $120.
The maps are available FREE Of COST if you download them from Geoscience Australia. The whole 513 maps are available.
My question is...would it be illegal to copy the CD or DVD set even though they are free to download?
Cheers,
Lyndon.
do you have a site address for the downloadable maps. as i am looking for thses maps for traveling around aus
Cheers
Ali
Phoenix
14th December 2005, 12:22 PM
From what I understand, the maps on the DVD are newer, and of higher quality than the ones that are on the CD, or downloadable.
feral
14th December 2005, 12:25 PM
Geoscience Australia is the site for the raster maps.
You click on the free downloads section and that takes you to a search page. If you select 'Topography' and then 'define an area', that will show a map of Aussie with the maps. The only problem is the sections are SE, SF, SG and so on...BUT in each section there up to 16 or 20 maps. You work it out as each maps is about 2.5mb and then download...you will be there forever!!!! You also have to register but this only sends the 'License Agreement' to you, it will give you the link to then download your maps.
You can select a part of the country and then it will give you all the maps for it, but you still have to download heaps.
Cheers,
Lyndon.
incisor
14th December 2005, 12:32 PM
the dvd maps are way better, i bought them not long ago. well worth the money.
incisor
14th December 2005, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Feral
My question is...would it be illegal to copy the CD or DVD set even though they are free to download?
Cheers,
Lyndon.
to the letter of the law, certainly is illegal.
the dvd maps are much better quality than the downloadable ones from what i have seen.
if you can afford a gps you should be able to afford the maps... 8O
Disco300Tdi
14th December 2005, 03:14 PM
I just did a comparison
Inc is right once again....
The disc is better
landrovermick
15th December 2005, 06:36 PM
sent ya a pm
rmp
17th December 2005, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Ace
I dont see why, everyone else pirates much worse, and if no one finds out who gets hurt?
Copying copyright software is illegal, and it's theft. Don't try to dress it up as anything else.
Who gets hurt? Two parties; the producer of the maps, who loses income due to theft, and everyone else who ends up with higher-priced maps and less choice as there is less incentive to produce anything.
Just go and buy what you need.
Ace
17th December 2005, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by rmp+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rmp)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Ace
I dont see why, everyone else pirates much worse, and if no one finds out who gets hurt?
Copying copyright software is illegal, and it's theft. Don't try to dress it up as anything else.
Who gets hurt? Two parties; the producer of the maps, who loses income due to theft, and everyone else who ends up with higher-priced maps and less choice as there is less incentive to produce anything.
Just go and buy what you need.[/b][/quote]
Point taken.
feral
18th December 2005, 08:51 AM
The maps are available FREE of COST from the website :roll:
If you download the maps it costs you nothing. The same maps are available on the CD's.
I do not see a problem to copy the CD's when the maps are available FREE of COST from the website.
It is the same product and the government has decided to release what you bought last month for $100 to be made available on the website FREE.
And really, the only offence you can possibly even get is if you make multiple copies and then sold them off.
When was the last time we were pulled up and checked the cd case for copied cd's and if we had originals or not :?:
Grizzly_Adams
18th December 2005, 09:56 AM
According to what Inc. said the maps on the DVD are newer, as such they may not be being released on the web.
In that case it would be piracy.. if however it's something like the FreeBSD disks which *are* freely downloadable OR you can purchase the disks and have them shipped to you - that would not be piracy.
If you wish to pay for them then you are both receiving a hard copy and supporting a cause...
Bushie
18th December 2005, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Grizzly_Adams
According to what Inc. said the maps on the DVD are newer, as such they may not be being released on the web.
I just had a quick check on [url=https://www.ga.gov.au/products/servlet/controller?event=DEFINE_PRODUCTS]<span style="color:blue">Geoscience Australia</span> and some of the maps have a release date of 1 nov 2005 I doubt that you will get much more recent than that.
To me it would suggest they are releasing the maps to the web as they update.
Bushie
incisor
18th December 2005, 02:18 PM
the downloadable ones are the same resolution as the ones on the CD version.
The DVD version contains what the cd's contain, plus the higher resolution maps. The higher resolution maps simply dont fit on 2 cd's https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
the maps on the cd's and dvd's are covered by a different license agreement than the downloadable ones. to the letter of the law it is piracy to copy the cd's as they are issued under a different license agreement, there can be no argument, just rationalisation trying to justify actions https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
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