D3 DRL Replace Fog Lights Any Problems

[TDV6]

Hi All,

I have just ordered LED replacements for the fog lights, but am now wondering if there will be any electrical problems with not having the electrical resistance of a incandescent bulb in the circuit, cost of the two lights is only $10 so they will find another use if there are going to be conflicts with the car.

2x Bright 18 LED Round Daytime Driving Running Light DRL Car Fog Lamp Head Light, approx 90mm round and 83mm deep.

Ryall

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[irondoc]

I replaced them with the LEDriving Osram ones (bit too expensive, but worth it for the DRL function). No issues with electricity. The LED fog light component isn't that good, not better than the original halogen lights, but the DRL component is awesome.

[Stuart02]

I replaced them with the LEDriving Osram ones (bit too expensive, but worth it for the DRL function). No issues with electricity. The LED fog light component isn't that good, not better than the original halogen lights, but the DRL component is awesome.
My Osrams seem to have developed a mind of their own. On when the car is off and vice versa. Great when they're working. Like the car!
Anyway I don't think the fog light current would cause issues like faulty brake light switches. $10 is a cheap experiment!

[irondoc]

I had to put a separate relay in when I wired the Osram DRLs up. They have some funny voltage sensing thing, and I have a solar panel on the roof. When it was sunny and it got above 13V, they would come on as they would think that the engine is on.....

Stuart, it sounds like you have one of the wires wired up the wrong way.

[Tombie]

Keep in mind also - removing Fog Lights - no matter where you live - isn't a legal thing [emoji6]

[Stuart02]

I had to put a separate relay in when I wired the Osram DRLs up. They have some funny voltage sensing thing, and I have a solar panel on the roof. When it was sunny and it got above 13V, they would come on as they would think that the engine is on.....

Stuart, it sounds like you have one of the wires wired up the wrong way.
Yeah oddly they worked fine for ages. I followed the instructions to wire them up. I'm wondering if it's an old battery thing. The alternator is still putting out 14.4 V but I've been doing a lot of short trips.

[TDV6]

Thank's all, and it looks like I may have just bought some work lights for the caravan as I hadn't thought of the legality bit seeing as they were marketed as DRL/Fog lights and they should fit where the fog lights are as a direct replacement for them but Tombie is right, if it aint legal, it aint, and as it's meant to be seen it will be by any passing officer.

Ryall

[Tombie]

Just check.. they may have both functions.

[orangepop]

Has anyone any tips on how / where to get a wire through the fire wall to the glovebox fuse box

[loanrangie]

Has anyone any tips on how / where to get a wire through the fire wall to the glovebox fuse box

There is a spare grommet in the aux battery box (where abs pump is ) on driver side .

[Tombie]

Has anyone any tips on how / where to get a wire through the fire wall to the glovebox fuse box

Pick up from the main fuse box [emoji41]

[orangepop]

Pick up from the main fuse box [emoji41]

Thanks Tombie but the unit I’m installing needs to piggyback off the Fog Light fuse #3 in glovebox fuse box.

[LRD414]

Has anyone any tips on how / where to get a wire through the fire wall to the glovebox fuse box


There is a spare grommet in the aux battery box (where abs pump is ) on driver side .

And it's easy to get behind the centre console from the driver side grommet to the passenger side, from where you can get to the glovebox fuses. There's photos of the grommet in the trailer brake sticky thread. Note that the grommet on the passenger side is pretty much full of cables already and you have to remove the battery and probably the fuse box to get at it on the engine bay side.

Scott

[Tombie]

Thanks Tombie but the unit I’m installing needs to piggyback off the Fog Light fuse #3 in glovebox fuse box.

What kit are you fitting?

[orangepop]

And it's easy to get behind the centre console from the driver side grommet to the passenger side, from where you can get to the glovebox fuses. There's photos of the grommet in the trailer brake sticky thread. Note that the grommet on the passenger side is pretty much full of cables already and you have to remove the battery and probably the fuse box to get at it on the engine bay side.

Scott

Thanks Scott. Ive looked at those photos & located the Grommet in engine bay although I can’t identify a way to get a wire from drivers side to passenger side ... a bright torch from either side isn’t visible from the other .... I’m in the dark .

[orangepop]

What kit are you fitting?

From eBay ( dual fog / DRL) 134414

[LRD414]

Thanks Scott. Ive looked at those photos & located the Grommet in engine bay although I can’t identify a way to get a wire from drivers side to passenger side ... a bright torch from either side isn’t visible from the other .... I’m in the dark .
There is a trim panel that sits closest to your feet that the pedals stick through. It has a side piece just above the footrest for your left foot. When you remove this trim you will see a big cavity in behind that side piece and you can simply feed cables across to the other side and fish them across from the corresponding trim piece on passenger side.

Scott

[orangepop]

There is a trim panel that sits closest to your feet that the pedals stick through. It has a side piece just above the footrest for your left foot. When you remove this trim you will see a big cavity in behind that side piece and you can simply feed cables across to the other side and fish them across from the corresponding trim piece on passenger side.

Scott

Great thanks Scott. Was a job getting it off without snapping it but it’s off now.

[Tombie]

From eBay ( dual fog / DRL) 134414

Not necessary to go to the fog fuse for that one!

You can attach in the main fuse box under the bonnet [emoji6]

[orangepop]

I figured they specify the Fog Light fuse as it’s a dual fog / DLR light. So what fuse would you suggest it go to in the main fuse box Tombie

[Tombie]

I’ll check in the morning for you.

[orangepop]

Ive decided not to proceed with the earlier DRL option however am interested in this unit. has anyone fitted these ?https://www.stedi.com.au/universal-osram-led-fog-light-conversion-kit-with-drl.html

[Aussie Jeepster]

I've just put the equivalent of a 21W LED globe in my park light sockets.
WAY brighter than the little globes I took out, but have not had a chance to drive it yet to see how good they might be.
Will still have to manually turn them on/off (what I wanted to avoid!), but might be a cheap and simple option.

If you try this, don't forget LED lights have to be plugged in the right way. You do not fit the globe then replace the whole headlight unit!!! You test it BEFORE refitting it.

[shanegtr]

Ive decided not to proceed with the earlier DRL option however am interested in this unit. has anyone fitted these ?https://www.stedi.com.au/universal-osram-led-fog-light-conversion-kit-with-drl.html
Theres a few around here that have fitted the osram LED DRL/Fog, but I thought the osrams where a bit more expensive than those.

[Tombie]

Theres a few around here that have fitted the osram LED DRL/Fog, but I thought the osrams where a bit more expensive than those.

I have the Osrams

[orangepop]

These arrived today allegedly OSRAM but Chinese writing , no manual etc. Hardest bit now looks to be removing the Existing Fog light as there isn't a removable bezel like the D4 & earlier RRS so its looking like I may have to remove the entire front bumper...seems unlikely though as how would you change the bulb. Any thoughts appreciated.
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[101RRS]

So not Osram but "Osram Style" - a Chinese knock-off.

How bright are the DRL side of the lights.

[orangepop]

So not Osram but "Osram Style" - a Chinese knock-off.

Exactly but even if the real deal doesn’t help get the factory units out [emoji848]

[Sabin]

Ive decided not to proceed with the earlier DRL option however am interested in this unit. has anyone fitted these ?STEDI OSRAM Universal LED Fog Light Kit (https://www.stedi.com.au/universal-osram-led-fog-light-conversion-kit-with-drl.html)

I've had these in for a few months now and have been great. Thought they were pretty good value for money.

[orangepop]

I've had these in for a few months now and have been great. Thought they were pretty good value for money.

Good to know , what vehicle have you fitted to.

[Sabin]

Good to know , what vehicle have you fitted to.

2013 D4 with an ARB bar. Worth mentioning I was hoping to have the DRL’s permanently on but sparky said they needed to be wired up to park lights. The front fog light button then activates the fogs only. Not a big deal though.

[Tombie]

2013 D4 with an ARB bar. Worth mentioning I was hoping to have the DRL’s permanently on but sparky said they needed to be wired up to park lights. The front fog light button then activates the fogs only. Not a big deal though.

What do you mean by “permanently on” and “wired to park lights”?


Can you post a pic of the wiring instructions?

[101RRS]

DRLs are supposed to only operate with engine running and lights off - when you switch your lights come on then the DRLS turn off. OEM fits may be a variation - eg DRLs on with lights off etc and when you turn your lights on the DRLs dim to become your parkers.

Remember DRLs are not supposed to be used in conjunction with your headlights.

Garry

[Tombie]

I know. But I also know these lights (the genuine ones at least) and know they can be set to off or dim when headlights come on..

[Aussie Jeepster]

I'm still fighting with my '06 D3 to have DRL's.
I've fitted 20W led's in the park lights, and they seem as bright as hell, and I've just fitted lower "wattage" leds (30W) to the fog lights to replace the 55W QI globes.
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I never drive in fog, and never use them as fog lights, so I'm hoping they might suffice.
But they still have to be manually turned on and off, and there is the questionable legality of running with the fog lights on in non fog conditions.
I'm sure that officer plod won't know the difference between 30W leds and 55W QI lights :<((

[Sabin]

What do you mean by “permanently on” and “wired to park lights”?


Can you post a pic of the wiring instructions?

No pic of the wiring I'm afraid, there were no instructions. Let my sparky do it as he saw fit.

The DRL's turn on when in park only. The fog lights turn on with the standard button.

Hope that helps.

[Aussie Jeepster]

Here are a couple of not very good pics to show the 20W led park light globes, and the 30W led foglight globes.
The 20w park lights really have some punch and I don't think there are any legal issues with them.
The 30W fogs are bright enough, but a plod who doesn't know Adam from Eve could ping me with them on.
I'll try running with the 20W parkers for a while.
Only real issue is remembering to turn them on and off.
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[DiscoJeffster]

I’m pretty sure there are legal issues as I’m pretty sure a park light is specified to be 5W in the standards, but in reality, no one will care.

[Aussie Jeepster]

I’m pretty sure there are legal issues as I’m pretty sure a park light is specified to be 5W in the standards, but in reality, no one will care.
You can't win, can you!

[101RRS]

They are not DRLs just parkers with brighter globes and the fogs are still fogs just with lower rating globes.

If you have to turn the parkers on and off - why not just run with headlights? Not sure what you are trying to achieve with your setup - just turn the headlights on or get proper DRLs.

Garry

[Tombie]

Of course you can win.
You just do it the proper way...

[orangepop]

Ive decided not to proceed with the earlier DRL option however am interested in this unit. has anyone fitted these ?STEDI OSRAM Universal LED Fog Light Kit (https://www.stedi.com.au/universal-osram-led-fog-light-conversion-kit-with-drl.html)

Just sent these back to the supplier as they https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/03/2.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/03/3.jpgdon’t physically fit 2010 - 2013 RRS. when fitted they leave a 1cm gap around the light & bumper. Would have been great ... so it’s back to the drawing board.