Sway bar disconnect

[fourteen8]

Hi. I am just wondering whether anyone here has installed sway bar disconnect on D2 to get more suspension travel.

I think the limitting factor after sway bar disconnect kit installed is the spring and shock. Shock needs to change to longer one and spring needs to get dislocation plate. Is that correct?

How about the D2 with airbag? Is there a dislocation plate for airbag? I dont want to replace to spring at the moment.

Whats the maximum highest length to set on nanocom for standard airbag?

Thanks. Gus

[Vern]

Shock length will be the limiting factor before swaybars and coils become an issue.

[Tombie]

Excessive flex is the realm of posers and does nothing for capability.. a wheel with no weight on it is no more useful than a wheel in the air...

[Fluids]

I find the sway bar disconnect most useful on tracks that have lots of dips hollows and raised sections. Helps immensely to stop the side to side rocking motion the D2 gets over very uneven terrain. Yes, it works because you get more up/down wheel travel (on the front) without each side interacting with the other side. Not recommended to be disconnected at highway speeds ... Down right dangerous !!! :eek:

[rick130]

A lot of us don't like dislocating suspension, it can be bloody unstable off road.
You'll still get some traction from the unsprung weight of the axle housing and wheel using dislocation cones but it's a nasty way go go IMO.

Remember that if you increase droop you also have to extend brake lines and TC/ABS cables, lower the front cross member, (the driveshaft will hit it) make sure the front driveshaft doesn't bind and has enough plunge (or install a Tom Wood shaft) and if increasing the ride height by 50mm or more you'll have to alter the castor somehow so the damned thing doesn't wander all over the road on the highway. Eccentric bushes will bind the suspension and cranked arms will probably introduce a driveshaft vibration.
Alter one thing from factory settings and a whole raft of other things are compromised and need addressing.

[kelvo]

With the ACE equiped D2s selecting low range automatically disconnected the swaybars. But it could also lock the bars if it thought a roll over was going to happen.

Mine doesn't have ACE, but if I'm going off road having a play I remove one of the front sway bar links.

One day I'll buy the J**p TJ disconnects, but I've been saying that for years...

I have a 2" lift, +2" shocks, +2" brake lines, 'adjusted' ABS cables for more length and spaced the front gearbox cross member.

Photo show how it flexes with one front swaybar link removed, rear swaybar still fully connected.

[PhilipA]

This mob makes them.
Expedition Exchange Incorporated :: Suspension :: SlickRock Fabrication Disco2 Front Swaybar Disconnects (D2DISCONNECT) (https://www.expeditionexchange.com/cart/product.php?productid=19265&cat=0&page=1)

I have been thinking , thinking of getting a set.

Regards Philip A.

[Vern]

Does the d2 bar have the same side loading as the d1/rrc?

[Fluids]

A lot of us don't like dislocating suspension, it can be bloody unstable off road.
You'll still get some traction from the unsprung weight of the axle housing and wheel using dislocation cones but it's a nasty way go go IMO.

Remember that if you increase droop you also have to extend brake lines and TC/ABS cables, lower the front cross member, (the driveshaft will hit it) make sure the front driveshaft doesn't bind and has enough plunge (or install a Tom Wood shaft) and if increasing the ride height by 50mm or more you'll have to alter the castor somehow so the damned thing doesn't wander all over the road on the highway. Eccentric bushes will bind the suspension and cranked arms will probably introduce a driveshaft vibration.
Alter one thing from factory settings and a whole raft of other things are compromised and need addressing.

All valid points for dislocating suspension but the sway disconnect doesn't fall into this category. I've run mine for a lot of years, on std suspension, and have had nil issues with brake and ABS lines. I'm not rock crawling, just touring. At 20-40km/hr speeds on rough tracks the ride is much nicer as the front axle has better articulation and walks the uneven terrain without rocking the vehicle side to side. It is of less/marginal benefit at higher speeds on outback roads.

[Graeme]

I permanently removed 1 front link from my 1st D2 which didn't have ACE. For my 2nd D2 with ACE I made an electronic module that optionally modified the speed signal to ACE to provide a 2kph speed signal because only up to 4 kph (IIRC) would the bars be unlocked.

[rick130]

All valid points for dislocating suspension but the sway disconnect doesn't fall into this category. I've run mine for a lot of years, on std suspension, and have had nil issues with brake and ABS lines. I'm not rock crawling, just touring. At 20-40km/hr speeds on rough tracks the ride is much nicer as the front axle has better articulation and walks the uneven terrain without rocking the vehicle side to side. It is of less/marginal benefit at higher speeds on outback roads.

All true Kev, but dearot did ask about longer dampers and dislocating the springs as well as ARB disconnects.

I loved the way the old Deefer drove on dirt with no ARB's front or rear, it was really good in the rough stuff and it wasn't that bad on the bitumen either, but I do like the way the D2 drives on road, so...

I really want to make some cockpit disconnects, either pinching the way the old GQ Patrol rear ones worked, or hydraulic links on one side so I can connect/disconnect at will for just the reasons you said.

[fourteen8]

With the ACE equiped D2s selecting low range automatically disconnected the swaybars. But it could also lock the bars if it thought a roll over was going to happen.

Thanks all for all the informations.
Mine has ACE on it. I didn't know it will unlock the bar on low range until now. Does this mean its unlocked the rear bar as well? Thanks kelvo.

[fourteen8]

I permanently removed 1 front link from my 1st D2 which didn't have ACE. For my 2nd D2 with ACE I made an electronic module that optionally modified the speed signal to ACE to provide a 2kph speed signal because only up to 4 kph (IIRC) would the bars be unlocked.

So this module you set to provide 2kph signal so ACE would unlocked the bar all the time no matter whats your actual speed? Will this unlocked the rear bar as well? I assume it will but I better ask to make sure.
Are you selling this module? Thanks

[Graeme]

Yes, both bars unlocked at any speed as ACE doesn't control the bars individually. Note that low/high range is not a consideration for ACE unlocking the bars, only speed. The bars will be partially unlocked between 4 kph and 40 kph depending on the extent of vehicle rocking as sensed by the 2 accelerometers. Another option of my module was to provide a speed signal less than 40 kph to allow partial unlocking at any speed - great for country roads.

[fourteen8]

Yes, both bars unlocked at any speed as ACE doesn't control the bars individually. Note that low/high range is not a consideration for ACE unlocking the bars, only speed. The bars will be partially unlocked between 4 kph and 40 kph depending on the extent of vehicle rocking as sensed by the 2 accelerometers. Another option of my module was to provide a speed signal less than 40 kph to allow partial unlocking at any speed - great for country roads.

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