Large rainwater tanks from Tamworth to Barossa..

[Sitec]

Hi all... Sooooo, I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place... As some of you know, I have recently finished/moved into a new house.. The original plan was to site two 22500lt Polymaster rainwater tanks in under the rear carport so they're within the fire safe (sprinkler) zone. This was to happen before the roof went on as they're 2500mm + tall. However, as the build has been far from fluid, this was one of the things didn't happen. Luckily, those tanks have been pressed into action else where. So... I now need two 'low profile' 22500lt tanks. The only company I've found who do these is RapidPlas who are based in Tamworth NSW. The low profile tanks they offer are 3840mm wide, and 2220mm tall. They fit the bill and are priced similar to all the other 22500lt tanks on the market.

Here's the problem.. They don't supply South Australia, and want $2500 to get them here... Sooo, I'm contemplating making a lightweight low chassis single axle trailer and collecting them from the edge of their 'free delivery' zone, which I believe to be Hay.. but before I go off on a mad dash making a trailer, and then doing two return runs to Hay (hoping to find somewhere to get them dropped off there short term..), I thought I'd ask the great powers of AULRO...

Any ideas guys and gals? :)

[Tote]

Make a wooden frame to support the tanks on a car trailer and use that? Cheaper than building a trailer.
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Regards,
Tote

[V8Ian]

$2500 is a bargain, grab it. You won't build and rego a trailer, then drive 7,000 km (over 3,000 with an accredited pilot) for less.

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/osom-additional-access-conditions.pdf

[bee utey]

Your load can be 2500 wide and 5300 high. Is your truck bed under 1450 high? That and a car trailer with a wooden frame and you'd be OK.

[Tins]

Your load can be 2500 wide and 5300 high. Is your truck bed under 1450 high? That and a car trailer with a wooden frame and you'd be OK.

5.3? Wish I'd known that when I was pulling 4.6 trailers and arguing with the RMS. Although, to be fair, most of the arguments were about cubic weight, whatever that is. However, I do believe that a permit would be required to go above 4.6, at least in NSW. SA beats to it's own drum of course.

[V8Ian]

4.3 high, permit to 5.0, escort and permit above.

[Tins]

4.3 high, permit to 5.0, escort and permit above.

What he said. Well, not quite. Had no issues with 4.6, unless I was in Sydney, of course.

[pop058]

What about digging the taller tanks into the ground to get them under the roof line.

[bee utey]

4.3 high, permit to 5.0, escort and permit above.

I won't argue with that, over 5.3 is what sets off the SE freeway height alarms.

[Tombie]

Sitec,

Is diameter a limit in your install or just height?

[V8Ian]

What he said. Well, not quite. Had no issues with 4.6, unless I was in Sydney, of course.
4.6 for car carriers, stock crates or PBS and period permits.

[V8Ian]

I won't argue with that, over 5.3 is what sets off the SE freeway height alarms.
Power lines will be an issue over 4.6 on a journey of that distance. Internet cables are often hung below the alleged minimum 4.8, I've seen them at 3.5, admittedly only in suburbia.

[Tins]

What about digging the taller tanks into the ground to get them under the roof line.

Tried that. The RMS have a limited sense of humour, and I exceeded it when I blew 5 of the six tyres on the rear set on the B trailer one day on the Hume. It's amazing how quickly they can find very brightly coloured cars, with very bright lights, when they want to.

As for the tunnels? NSW has the most idiotic policy imaginable. They label certain tunnels as 4.6. So, you need to get to the other side of the airport ( yeah, I know.... Doesn't matter...) so you look at the roads, and you see that the tunnel will work. 4.6, it says. You come on on the M5, and you don't trigger the height device. With me??? So, you drive into the tunnel, heading for wherever you want. You are nearly to the other end, and you hear a Whack! Whack! Whack! noise on the roof, not of the truck, but on the second trailer, which is about 15mm higher. Now, provided you heard that, or have seen the little warning signs that have lit up over your head, ( ask yourself, when did you last look at one of those? ), you have about 500 metres to a; change lanes, b; not kill someone, c; smile for the camera, and d; find something else that pays you a wage. Why? Because the tunnel changes from 4.6 to 4.3. I'll let you think about that for a minute. If, however, you are lucky, you can jump off at the next exit. If anyone needs help here, particularly with the U turn that you are going to need to do, in a B double, on the Sydney roads. What fun.

Thing is, a lot of folk have to deal with this idiocy for the first time, and the RMS can never be wrong...

[Tins]

Power lines will be an issue over 4.6 on a journey of that distance. Internet cables are often hung below the alleged minimum 4.8, I've seen them at 3.5, admittedly only in suburbia.

4.6. Less than that, it requires signage. Took out cables in Healesville. Not my problem, under 4.6. Can't speak for other states.

[Sitec]

What about digging the taller tanks into the ground to get them under the roof line.


That was my next plan when they said 'no' to putting them in first.. All was going well until they dug strip footings for the carport! 2030 is the current clearance.. 2400 if I dig the gravel drive back up... 😂

[Sitec]

Sitec,

Is diameter a limit in your install or just height?

The carport is 8m wide... Just enough room for two tanks and a gap between..

[Tombie]

The carport is 8m wide... Just enough room for two tanks and a gap between..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/05/27.jpg

Would be cheaper [emoji41]

[Tins]

Getting it onto site is easy. I thought we were talking transport.

[V8Ian]

4.6. Less than that, it requires signage. Took out cables in Healesville. Not my problem, under 4.6. Can't speak for other states.
In Queensland the minimum is supposed to be 5.0 metres. That measurement must be taken where the cable is attached to the pole. The cables must always be strung on the coldest day of the year because at the centre of the span, often there is barely 4.6. To compound that issue, the internet and cable TV mobs come along and string up their wires underneath. The driver is obligated to avoid the infrastructure and responsible for any damage in Queensland. Try seeing and avoiding a 12mm cable at night. I have taken cables out with a 4.3 trailer, needless to say, I don't know where they originated. [bigwhistle]

[Tins]

In Queensland the minimum is supposed to be 5.0 metres. That measurement must be taken where the cable is attached to the pole. The cables must always be strung on the coldest day of the year because at the centre of the span, often there is barely 4.6. To compound that issue, the internet and cable TV mobs come along and string up their wires underneath. The driver is obligated to avoid the infrastructure and responsible for any damage in Queensland. Try seeing and avoiding a 12mm cable at night. I have taken cables out with a 4.3 trailer, needless to say, I don't know where they originated. [bigwhistle]

Wouldn't it be luvverly if we all had the same regs?? Like the NHVR was supposed to be?? They wonder why they struggle to get decent operators into the industry?

It makes me sick. The NSW RMS is by far the worst. VicRoads is following suit, and most of them wouldn't know a truck if it ran them down.

[Tins]

In Queensland the minimum is supposed to be 5.0 metres. That measurement must be taken where the cable is attached to the pole. The cables must always be strung on the coldest day of the year because at the centre of the span, often there is barely 4.6. To compound that issue, the internet and cable TV mobs come along and string up their wires underneath. The driver is obligated to avoid the infrastructure and responsible for any damage in Queensland. Try seeing and avoiding a 12mm cable at night. I have taken cables out with a 4.3 trailer, needless to say, I don't know where they originated. [bigwhistle]

Where they originated? Damn. I didn't care if they fell from outer space. Obviously, I was legal, so therefore....

[V8Ian]

Wouldn't it be luvverly if we all had the same regs?? Like the NHVR was supposed to be?? They wonder why they struggle to get decent operators into the industry?

It makes me sick. The NSW RMS is by far the worst. VicRoads is following suit, and most of them wouldn't know a truck if it ran them down.
Well they have started. A few years ago all fines were standardised to the state with the highest fine for each breach. Due to non-standard methods of dealing with inflation and the likes of SA's, Victim of Crimes levy, they're no longer standard. :Rolling:

[Tins]

Well they have started. A few years ago all fines were standardised to the state with the highest fine for each breach. Due to non-standard methods of dealing with inflation and the likes of SA's, Victim of Crimes levy, they're no longer standard. :Rolling:

Except, as I found out, for Diary breaches. The HP guys at Narribri were spitting when all they could do was fine mw $158, when what they wanted to do was fine me $1580. One page in my diary, this was for. Astonishing how a clerical error is worth three times more than exceeding the speed limit in a car by more than 40km. I guess I should be grateful that Diary offences don't attract points. Now, why would that be???

[Sitec]

Getting it onto site is easy. I thought we were talking transport.

We are.. I have a crane truck on site. The Rapid Plas tanks fit the bill, I just have to find a way of getting them here without breaking the bank more than it already is! [bigsad]