Disco gas

[DiscoSonic]

Hi gang
Ive been quoted $4.500 to put a lpg system under the disco
We asked for the tank has to go under .
i have seen the scube tanks in the cargo bay but we need the space.
So is that a good price and is there a disco oreintated lpg place in perth.
Cheers pete

[ET]

Sonic,
I put my 96 V8 on gas a couple of months ago. Have scuba tanks. $2,420.00.
Was quoted $4,000.00 for under tanks and a small fuel tank. That is in Qld. Your quote seems reasonable compared with up here.
Some operators up here are charging up nto $7,000 because of the current demand.
Good luck.

[loanrangie]

At that price, i would be considering how long i will be keeping the car for before outlaying any hard earns- that is half the value of a 94 V8 disco.

[landy_man]

totally agree.. for $4500 I would sell the V8, buy a tidy diesel.. and do a few pump mods..
and you might even have spare change to fill her up with a full tank

[PhilipA]

AND a bloody lot of petrol considering the gas price will go up by 18??cents a litre in excise!!!
Regards Philip A

[MacMan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>AND a bloody lot of petrol considering the gas price will go up by 18??cents a litre in excise!!!
Regards Philip A[/b][/quote]

People seem to be under the misconception that the change in excise will happen all at once overnight. Not the case.

John Howard knows he couldn't dodge that many p'd off taxi drivers!

[p38arover]

Originally posted by PhilipA
AND a bloody lot of petrol considering the gas price will go up by 18??cents a litre in excise!!!
Regards Philip A

Excise will be applied beginning in July 2008 and will occur at the rate of 2.5 cents/litre per annum until it reaches a maximum of 12.5 cents/litre in 2012.

Ron

[PhilipA]

Another thing to consider is that the price relationship may change if the supply/demand balance changes.
Look at what has happened to diesel. Because Europe and China are demanding a greater volume , the price relationship vs petrol has changed.
At the moment LPG seems cheap even if you discount the excise eg unleaded 1.20+ - 39c excise=79c. LPG 50c??. even accounting for 20% less calorific value it is cheap.

With the rush to LPG , I do not know what the demand/supply balance is and whether the local supply will be all used by the market in the next few years.

In the longer run, all energy should equalise according to its calorific value. The LPG price advantage is artificial, just like in Europe with diesel, where excise is less but rego for diesel cars is much more expensive in Germany anyway , to encourage high milers to use diesel.
How much do you trust the Federal Government?
Regards Philip A

[MacMan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>How much do you trust the Federal Government? [/b][/quote]

Not at all - I am a licensed shooter, and look how we get treated. The difference is that the Government has succeeded with its shallow, vote grabbing legislation because of the relatively small number of people jumping up and down while the rest of the population remains ignorant. They will have no such luck if they buggarise around with EVERONE's fuel prices too much.

Informedly distrustful I am I am. I do not like green eggs and ham.

[LandyAndy]

Hi Pete
My Bro has a mate in Rockingham
Spencer,at Drivesafe Autogas.He is a top operator and its his own bussiness.Tell him Andy with the Landys from Williams put you on to him :wink: :wink: :wink:
In your introduction you said you didnt know whether your Disco was a series 1 or 2.From previous posts on hear I think there is an issue with the EFI system electronics in converting the Ser2 to LPG.Others may be able to help.
The easiest way for you to tell if its a Ser1 or 2 is look at the rear lights,the Ser 1 are on the bumper/corner of the gaurds,the Ser2 are on the bumper and higher up on the roof support panel level with the window glass.
Andrew

[Quiggers]

Lismore: 70 cents a litre for gas today, $1.13 for unlead, the gap is getting a bit narrow. (and $1.24 for diesel) makes one wonder....

GQ

[Bradtot]

Pete can you do any of the fitting yourself of the gas?
I mean can u fit the tanks underneath, do you have the facilities to do such a job, mehanically mided etc etc?
If so you can do it yourself I did and saved a bundle
I have on my Rangie what u want underfloor gas with 2 sill petrol tanks
I fitted the petrol tanks myself and then removed the main fuel tank and fitted up the gas tanks and cradle. I also fitted the convertor under the bonnet. What u cannot do is plumb it all in and do the wiring.
My gas fitter charged me to fit the pipe from the tanks to the convertor and then do all the wiring of the electrics including the cost of the tank cradle, convertor , gas hose .relays etc
$980.00 I already had the sill tanks and the 2 gas tanks
I got back 500 from govt as well.
I am in perth and if you would like to see my setup pm me
As andy says go and see his mate in rockinham if you are unable to do it all yourself.
I do have some pics in the pic gallery

Best of luck
Brad https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[DiscoSonic]

Yeah im reasonable at fitting up things ive spent years moding various cars and other things.
i hadnt thought going down that path but ive got a nearly complete system from a EB ford i could retro fit and get them to fill in the gaps. I have a mate who will do a cut down fuel tank for me and i have to wait to get the tanks and i can fabicate the brackets .
Thanks for the advice
I checked we have series 1
Cheers Pete

[welshman]

Any chance of seeing you set up pics cheers
David (Mindarie)

[George130]

The fitting yourself idea is good especialy if you know the inspectors. A mate just got his panel van stamped. $100 for hte inspection and certification. The mate did all the work himself.
You can get a gas setup for the fords and holdens for $100.

With the scuba tanks for a disco your up for more :cry:

[CraigE]

$4500 seems a tad on the expensive side. But I suppose with demand at the momment they can charge what they like and get away with it. It looks like they want to charge you around $3000 to fit it. The equipment itself is only about $1500 max for a efi and about $1000 for a carby not including a new petrol tank - $900 max for twin sill tanks.
If you are going to go down the under floor tank set up, I would fit the biggest lpg tank you can with sill tanks. Do most of the work yourself and get a fitter to do the final hook up and inspection. Personally I would go the scuba tanks with a false floor in the back. You will only lose about 5" of space and no overall floor space.
My Dad has just replaced the under floor gas tank in my old Rangie - 70 litres $500 supplied, fitted and filled with lpg. The big 100 litre one in the back would only be about $600. Two tanks in this one.
Ideally if you can afford it I would go underfloor lpg, scuba lpg in the cargo area with a false floor (a piece of marine ply and marine carpet with some aluminium legs) and twin sill tanks. Will give you plenty of range.
See if you can get hold of APG direct for price quotes on gear. The price jump these sods are charging at the momment is ridiculous. It should not cost much more than $3000-$3500 max to supply and fit everything including labour. Seems these guys now want $2000-2500 a day for their labour.
Check out a site www.v8engines.com (http://www.v8engines.com) these guys are in the UK but specialise in Rover lpg for some ideas. Another company in Australia that may be worth looking up is Gore Research or Gas Research for kits as well.

[loanrangie]

[quote="DiscoSonic"]Yeah im reasonable at fitting up things ive spent years moding various cars and other things.
i hadnt thought going down that path but ive got a nearly complete system from a EB ford i could retro fit and get them to fill in the gaps. I have a mate who will do a cut down fuel tank for me and i have to wait to get the tanks and i can fabicate the brackets .

Dont bother cutting down a tank, you wont fit an lpg tank big enough next to it to make it worth while, go for under floor scuba's or internal scuba's / large tank.

[DiscoSonic]

Hi Gang
We are not worried to much about having a long range in the disco. It is predominantly a suburban car with a few country runs and would be lucky to travel too far. Yes we would prefer to put scuba's underneath or just a small tank, depending on what we can get.
Thanks again for everyone's advice, it is appreciated.
Cheers
Pete & Marion