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simoncs
25th August 2017, 01:46 PM
Hi all

I went to see the D5 today and confirm a few things I had heard that, and wanted to clarify.



The 19 inch tyres actually come with a 60 profile tyre - not a 55 like in the D4
ARB have taken 2 test vehicles and are well on the way to developing a full bumper replacement bullbar in alloy.
The infotainment systems actually seems to work, and is massively quicker than the D4. You can enter directions when moving. Optional traffic via a sim. Speaker is what you say is what you get - much simpler.
If you purchase the T2 terrain response which gives you the rear diff as well (circa $4k) then in sand mode the car will not drop height (from extended height) when exceeding 50kph
The towbar seems to be at a sensible height and includes the recovery point.
The seats do not lie as flat as the D4 and the boot opening is not as big, but apparently there is actually more volume.
Shame about the tailgate - the new loading platform (though i didn't see it) doesn't sound as good - it lowers/raises electronically.
Prices don't seem to have gone up as much as i had heard
2ltr SD4 SE - 102,500 HSE 110,000 HSE lux 124500
3ltr TD6 SE 110,500 HSE 114,500 HSE lux 129000


hope this is handy

Simon

Graeme
25th August 2017, 03:24 PM
According to the published specifications, the suspension will drop at 80 kph from its 40mm raised height to normal height regardless of TR2, ediff or any TR modes. 75mm raised is limited to 50 kph. 40mm raised height is not specifically selectable.

Lee Jackson
25th August 2017, 04:28 PM
The Only think I will add is the seats do go flat. You have to push the buttons again after the initial close. ie you hit button they go close to flat then hold them and they go down further... by design.

Re the rear tailgate flap its what you get use to. I prefer the Glass to Open like my x Kluger but hey only a small negative considering the positives of the car.

I will be real interested in what ARB come up with.

scarry
25th August 2017, 06:08 PM
The Only think I will add is the seats do go flat. You have to push the buttons again after the initial close. ie you hit button they go close to flat then hold them and they go down further... by design.

Re the rear tailgate flap its what you get use to. I prefer the Glass to Open like my x Kluger but hey only a small negative considering the positives of the car.

I will be real interested in what ARB come up with.

In their latest mag,they,ARB, say"With the next generation Discovery moving up several notches in terms of its luxury SUV type characteristics,we'er not convinced there is a place for it in the ARB stable.We will,of course,watch this vehicle roll out closely and would love to hear from any customers who would like to see ARB develop accessories for the new Discovery" Matthew Frost, National sales & Marketing Manager.

Maybe they have had a heap of enquiries since the mag was printed?

Who knows,we will have to wait and see.

A cargo barrier is essential for the travelling we do.It does appear,in the seven seater,it would be very difficult to fit one,due to the way the seats fold down,and the position of airbags,etc.The five seater may be different,but i haven't seen one.

mfpoli
26th August 2017, 12:49 PM
The seats do not lie as flat as the D4 and the boot opening is not as big, but apparently there is actually more volume.


I have to correct you there unfortunately. With both 2nd and 3rd row seats folded, the D4 has 2,588 litres of space, whilst the D5 has 2,406 litres, a 7% reduction. I sleep in my D4 whenever I go camping, so interior space is a key consideration for me and I notice these stats. Also, there is no way from the naked eye that the internal space in the D5 is larger than the D4. Sounds like more spin from the dealer.

Mario

scarry
26th August 2017, 05:18 PM
I have to correct you there unfortunately. With both 2nd and 3rd row seats folded, the D4 has 2,588 litres of space, whilst the D5 has 2,406 litres, a 7% reduction. I sleep in my D4 whenever I go camping, so interior space is a key consideration for me and I notice these stats. Also, there is no way from the naked eye that the internal space in the D5 is larger than the D4. Sounds like more spin from the dealer.

Mario

Most of them have no f'n idea.

the guy i saw while looking at the D5 told me it had 18" rims.

oh,and also the battery is under the bonnet,which it isn't.

Lee Jackson
26th August 2017, 06:35 PM
I have to correct you there unfortunately. With both 2nd and 3rd row seats folded, the D4 has 2,588 litres of space, whilst the D5 has 2,406 litres, a 7% reduction. I sleep in my D4 whenever I go camping, so interior space is a key consideration for me and I notice these stats. Also, there is no way from the naked eye that the internal space in the D5 is larger than the D4. Sounds like more spin from the dealer.

Mario

Hi mfpoli,

I slept in the D5 with no issues.

128550

ozscott
26th August 2017, 06:51 PM
You had a gr8 view out the windshield in the morning!

Cheers

mfpoli
26th August 2017, 07:46 PM
I slept in the D5 with no issues.

128550

Lee - good to hear. I suspect the floor space is largely similar in square feet terms, with the reduction in volume in the D5 due to the lower ceiling height and inward sloping sides.

Perhaps try to sleep in the other direction (ie. with your feet to the back door). It may allow you to put a suspended shelf across the back which would give you some storage area for clothes, etc. I made a simple self out of 12mm ply which I suspend between the arm rests of the third row. Easy to remove when not travelling. Just a thought.

Enjoy

Mario

Zeros
27th August 2017, 04:27 PM
It's great to hear some snippets about the new D5 in the real world. ...but it seems remarkably quiet!

New D5 owners ...Tell us more!

Lee Jackson
27th August 2017, 05:12 PM
Zeros what would you like to know. I am assuming its quiet as they are out driving them. :)

I washed mine today then put it in garage and thought. I will do my kid pickup running around in the Kluger (which I need to sell). Bloody Battery flat.. So no biggie so I took the sparkling clean d5 out and within minutes its starts ****ing down. then sunny. then friggen cold as, then sunny then hail. I threw my hands in the air and said fu#$ only in melbourne. :) So that was my day.

Zeros
27th August 2017, 06:28 PM
How could you even consider driving the Kluger, when you have that beautiful new machine???

Tell us all! How amazing is it? How does it feel? How is it in the rain? The sun?

...even compared to a Kluger if you must 😊

Lee Jackson
27th August 2017, 07:23 PM
It is a joy every time I hop in the saddle. I like discovering and that is exactly what this car is to me. I find new things it can do every day.

To be honest the best thing for me at the moment is the ability to start from scratch. New Vehicle New things to put on it. I just spent the last hour watching a youtube video on the High Country. I as super keen to Deck the Beast out and go bush. I have already looked at BF Goodrich Ko2's for it. I just need to decide on a Rim as I have 22" Rims and would need to get 20" Rims to have some sidewall. So as you can see it gives me plenty of joy in finding the bits i need or want. hehehehe

In the coming weeks I think I will start planning what I need so I can enjoy the High Country. ie Its the little things that some might see as obvious and some might not. But I have to start somewhere.

Sorry got side tracked... Best New feature to me that I like the most or use the most is the Adaptive Cruise Control. So handy travelling that ring road every day. There are features that I have which I will never use. Or Currently should I say i haven,t. ie I have the automated Parking. I did get the New Terrain Response 2. And will be so happy to learn how to use it. I have enquired about the LR experience. So should know more on that in the next week or so.

oh I do like the car smarts in relation to the height. ie when you park it lowers itself, then when you drive away it raises to Normal Height and of course you can raise it for Off Road, and Super extend mode. I read last night if you exceed 120 km's or similar speed car lowers itself 13 mm. No idea if that is true or not.


My car does have the odd bug re the infotainment screen, oh and the Volume control ****es me off when their is such a simple (Programmatically speaking) Solution. It takes me like 5 turns of the dial to turn volume up. They need a volume setting option so you can speficy volume for each thing,, phone, nav, radio etc. and more importantly they need a volume Increment setting.

Overall I am still in love with the car. It will bring me much joy and many many adventures.. So Looking forward to doing the high country in it.

Zeros
28th August 2017, 12:00 PM
Fantastic Lee! Thanks...inspiring. Great to hear you're loving it! I'll have to take one for a drive soon, but I'm afraid I'll like it too much. Bit out of my price range. But can live vicariously through others' enjoyment for now. Cheers

SBD4
28th August 2017, 03:15 PM
They need a volume setting option so you can speficy volume for each thing,, phone, nav, radio etc. and more importantly they need a volume Increment setting.

It will have it Lee. Have a look in the Audio settings/general settings. Also, if you adjust the volume for the particular feature that is audible at the time it should remember that level you have chosen. For example, if your reverse parking sensors are too loud, adjust their volume while they are sounding and the system should remember it. Should be the same for nav and phone. For the nav it's a bit harder doing it this way as you have to adjust it while it is "speaking".

Lee Jackson
28th August 2017, 04:58 PM
Thanks Sean,

Yes the volume bar changes color for the appropriate Volume. ie phone, nav, radio etc. My Gripe is i have to turn the small volume knob around about 5 times to turn the volume up. If there was a setting that allowed us to specify the increment. ie 1 click of the dial is 5 volume something like that. In programming we use this on scroll bars all the time.


Zeros you are quite welcome to take mine for a spin. Just ask. :)

Zeros
28th August 2017, 05:10 PM
Thanks Sean,

Yes the volume bar changes color for the appropriate Volume. ie phone, nav, radio etc. My Gripe is i have to turn the small volume knob around about 5 times to turn the volume up. If there was a setting that allowed us to specify the increment. ie 1 click of the dial is 5 volume something like that. In programming we use this on scroll bars all the time.


Zeros you are quite welcome to take mine for a spin. Just ask. :)

Hey thanks Lee, very generous.

veebs
29th August 2017, 01:47 PM
Hi all

I went to see the D5 today and confirm a few things I had heard that, and wanted to clarify.



The 19 inch tyres actually come with a 60 profile tyre - not a 55 like in the D4


hope this is handy

Simon

This is interesting - I've tried looking for this size tyre in the past, but the range is extremely limited, if available at all. Will be interesting to see what happens as the lower spec D5s with 19" wheels start needing new tyres. Will stock start to come into tyre repairers, or, will the tyres become a dealer only item.

Dealer only seems unlikely, but if nothing else on the road is running these profiles, what tyre company would take the risk in purchasing stock?

scarry
29th August 2017, 06:47 PM
This is interesting - I've tried looking for this size tyre in the past, but the range is extremely limited, if available at all. Will be interesting to see what happens as the lower spec D5s with 19" wheels start needing new tyres. Will stock start to come into tyre repairers, or, will the tyres become a dealer only item.

Dealer only seems unlikely, but if nothing else on the road is running these profiles, what tyre company would take the risk in purchasing stock?

Hmm,now if there were 18's available,265/65/18 is a very common size,and available in many types,and many brands.

Running that 19' size,you would have to wonder,what were they thinking?

chuck
29th August 2017, 08:05 PM
Order the 20" rims then you can legally fit 275 55 20's.
BFG AT's come in this size so a genuine LT offroad tyre.

scarry
30th August 2017, 06:32 PM
Order the 20" rims then you can legally fit 275 55 20's.
BFG AT's come in this size so a genuine LT offroad tyre.

With a load rating of 115,i doubt they could be called a Light Truck tyre.

Disco-tastic
30th August 2017, 08:02 PM
With a load rating of 115,i doubt they could be called a Light Truck tyre.My D697 are LT with a load rating of 116

Graeme
30th August 2017, 09:42 PM
LT or P construction is a different dimension to load carrying ability. LT275/55R20 KO2 have very thick sidewalls and I certainly don't doubt their LT construction rating. Long Tek screws still go through the tread though.