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landoman
31st August 2017, 09:37 PM
Just fitted a Traxide relay and new wiring loom to my 110
but now my headlight leveling/adjusting switch does not appear to be working
wondering if I upset something when I removed the headlights to fit the new loom
any suggestions what I might need to check
djam1
1st September 2017, 09:01 AM
Do you mean the high/low switch if so you have more than likely wired it up wrong
Wolfman_TWP
1st September 2017, 11:47 AM
You might need to remove the headlights again. And check that the connector to the motor has been re-attached. Happened to me when I was replacing my (Blown) headlight globes.. (I missed one)
Wolf
landoman
1st September 2017, 01:37 PM
You might need to remove the headlights again. And check that the connector to the motor has been re-attached. Happened to me when I was replacing my (Blown) headlight globes.. (I missed one)
Wolf
Ok that sounds like it's worth following up
I don't recall disconnecting it though ......I just removed the connectors from the parking light and the indicator to get the headlight surround off then disconnected the the 3 pin connectors from the head lamps them selves .....perhaps I inadvertently disconnected the motor from one ......where is it to be found it somewhere near the headlamps themselves
thanks
jon3950
1st September 2017, 05:46 PM
Ok that sounds like it's worth following up
I don't recall disconnecting it though ......I just removed the connectors from the parking light and the indicator to get the headlight surround off then disconnected the the 3 pin connectors from the head lamps them selves .....perhaps I inadvertently disconnected the motor from one ......where is it to be found it somewhere near the headlamps themselves
thanks
This post has a photo which shows the motor on the back of the headlamp. You can just see the connector sticking out of it. This is the most likely culprit.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides/236135-alasdair-my16-keswick-110-a-15.html#post2670291
Cheers,
Jon
cuppabillytea
1st September 2017, 11:31 PM
Here's a photo of the connection as well as some others of the partially disassembled unit. If I were you I wouldn't be concerned too much if you can't get it working. I had the opposite problem in that I couldn't turn it off.
as you can see in the pics this unit is a throw away item and had to be opened with the depicted, implements of gentle persuasion. It isn't water proof and as you can see, was full of muddy water. The mud had a high Iron content and may have shorted the switch. I would have had to do irrevocably destructive surgery to find out.
I simply reassembled it and bound it with cable ties. I can still adjust the beam with a screw driver.
djam1
2nd September 2017, 09:13 AM
Sorry wasn't aware that Defenders were advanced enough to have self adjusting lights lol
Do you mean the high/low switch if so you have more than likely wired it up wrong
rangieman
2nd September 2017, 09:58 AM
Sorry wasn't aware that Defenders were advanced enough to have self adjusting lights lol
That is a very surprising advancement [bigwhistle]
And funny enough LR could still not get it right[bighmmm]
landoman
2nd September 2017, 01:12 PM
Here's a photo of the connection as well as some others of the partially disassembled unit. If I were you I wouldn't be concerned too much if you can't get it working. I had the opposite problem in that I couldn't turn it off.
as you can see in the pics this unit is a throw away item and had to be opened with the depicted, implements of gentle persuasion. It isn't water proof and as you can see, was full of muddy water. The mud had a high Iron content and may have shorted the switch. I would have had to do irrevocably destructive surgery to find out.
I simply reassembled it and bound it with cable ties. I can still adjust the beam with a screw driver.
Thanks for that ....to adjust with a screw driver ...how do you do that ....screw in or out the bottom screw ......do you need to remove the square light sorrow down to do this
cuppabillytea
2nd September 2017, 02:33 PM
Thanks for that ....to adjust with a screw driver ...how do you do that ....screw in or out the bottom screw ......do you need to remove the square light sorrow down to do this
There are cutaways in the Headlight surround, one at the bottom and one on the outside. The bottom one to raise and lower, and the outside ones for left and right. You will see movement with as little as a quarter turn.
Even if the motorised device is functioning. the manual adjustment is necessary to ensure you have your preferred beam thought the range of movement on offer.
landoman
3rd September 2017, 02:48 PM
There are cutaways in the Headlight surround, one at the bottom and one on the outside. The bottom one to raise and lower, and the outside ones for left and right. You will see movement with as little as a quarter turn.
Even if the motorised device is functioning. the manual adjustment is necessary to ensure you have your preferred beam thought the range of movement on offer.
Ok thanks to all ......looks like I can get a fix fairly easily
tact
4th September 2017, 01:50 PM
Here's a photo of the connection as well as some others of the partially disassembled unit. If I were you I wouldn't be concerned too much if you can't get it working. [...]
Prior to you mentioning yours last week - I had no idea any Defender had such a marvel. My 2013 model certainly does not have it. Am discovering more and more little differences between my Malaysian assembled late model Defender and the Australian models.
(Biggies so far are: no ABS/TC on mine, my leather seats are different, no headlight levelling...)
landoman
9th September 2017, 10:11 AM
Ok ....further to the above I took out one of my headlights this morning to see what the problem was
1) the "leveling screws " are not adjusting when I change the setting through 0 to 4 on the switch .....ie the motor presumably that drive these leveling screws is not driving
2) I unplugged the 3 pin plug from the motor and tested it for power
.......there are 3 wires ...I assume the black one in the middle is earth .....
i get voltage on the left hand wire of 11.4 v and on the right hand wire of o.97 v ??????
i have only looked at one light and it's motor .....so not sure what I should do next ?
suggestions gratefully accepted
BTW ....I tried to manually adjust the leveling screws but the just appear to turn and neither go in or out ....I assume they need the motor to drive them in or out
landoman
9th September 2017, 06:17 PM
Ok ....further to the above I took out one of my headlights this morning to see what the problem was
1) the "leveling screws " are not adjusting when I change the setting through 0 to 4 on the switch .....ie the motor presumably that drive these leveling screws is not driving
2) I unplugged the 3 pin plug from the motor and tested it for power
.......there are 3 wires ...I assume the black one in the middle is earth .....
i get voltage on the left hand wire of 11.4 v and on the right hand wire of o.97 v ??????
i have only looked at one light and it's motor .....so not sure what I should do next ?
suggestions gratefully accepted
BTW ....I tried to manually adjust the leveling screws but the just appear to turn and neither go in or out ....I assume they need the motor to drive them in or out
Follow up .....
I also checked the second light .....and same result ...power is there ...11.4 v in the left ....0.96v ?? on the right ....but no working motors in the light adjustment screws .......could it be a switch problem ..??
landoman
20th March 2018, 03:45 PM
Got the same problem as described in this thread ....fitted a traxide loom to increase light
And it’s great ....but the leveling switch no longer works ....
This thread ended abruptly with out a conclusion to the problem
Any ideas suggestions appreciated
I know I can adjust the lights manually with a screw driver on theadjustment nuts ....but given there Is a switch I’d like to know why it is not working ........is this due to fitting the traxide loom as it somehow bypasses the leveling switch ?
Zeros
20th March 2018, 05:48 PM
I use the awesome headlight levelling all the time, with / without a heavy load in the back, or towing. Great Defender feature.
Have you guys asked the Traxide guys for a fix? I’d be keen to know before going down the Traxide headlight / dual battery setup route.
Mark130
20th March 2018, 08:17 PM
Sorry I can't help, but I have been wondering about the levelling switch for a while
My 2002 130 doesn't have them but the wiring schematics shows them
How long have they been around and have we established that Aussie cars just didn't get them for one reason or another?
Larry
20th March 2018, 08:29 PM
........is this due to fitting the traxide loom as it somehow bypasses the leveling switch ?
Nothing to do with the Traxide kit (assuming it has been fitted correctly).
I would suggest take it to someone who knows how the power adjustment works, auto electrician etc.
Zeros
21st March 2018, 08:32 PM
Sorry I can't help, but I have been wondering about the levelling switch for a while
My 2002 130 doesn't have them but the wiring schematics shows them
How long have they been around and have we established that Aussie cars just didn't get them for one reason or another?
Puma? ...mine is Australian 2014 model
DiscoMick
21st March 2018, 09:34 PM
Mine has the levelling switch. Excellent feature.
Why would the Traxide wiring loom stop it from working?
cuppabillytea
21st March 2018, 10:12 PM
The Light leveller is a great idea which I used often, when it was working, but it's not made to withstand the punishment it cops off road. It eventually fills up with crud and dies. It's a sealed unit and while I wouldn't say it's impossible to fix it would be a mighty effort. Personally; I don't think it's worth replacing. Just unplug it and leave dormant in situ. It has to be there for manual adjustment.
btudd
22nd March 2018, 06:15 AM
I have the Traxcide kit on my 2011 2.4 Puma and don’t have any issues with the Light leveller switch. Maybe post a picture of your wiring to ensure it is correct
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