far out , i thought i would service the aircon today

[vk2loz]

I cant believe the P38 system takes 1250 +- 50 of r134a gas ,, thats so much , my disco 2 with twin air held the same ??

far out its cold now ,,,,,

Would anyone know what types of bulbs are in the aircon control pannel ??
Cheers all
Bob

[benji]

I've had aircon blokes remark on that in the past.
How did you service it yourself?

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[p38arover]

Would anyone know what types of bulbs are in the aircon control panel?

See LCD Backlight Repair (http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdetails/lcdlights.html)

[vk2loz]

See LCD Backlight Repair (http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdetails/lcdlights.html)
Thanks Ron , I knew you could help

Bob

[p38arover]

I did write a lot of that page. :D

[PeterH]

Yep, I had mine regased last weekend after replacing a leaky hose.
The air con guy commented that it took a lot of gas, much more than most cars.
He said that is as much as a truck air conditioner takes!
Like yours, mine is so cold now, I should be set for summer.
I also recently replaced a few bulbs including some of the HEVAC ones, I was lucky to find some of the correct ones at my local autobarn. They had a special case of unusual bulbs and just happened to match what I needed. It's a good idea to take in the bulbs you want to replace so you can be certain you are getting the correct bulbs.
Cheers, Pete.

[Bigbjorn]

I've had aircon blokes remark on that in the past.
How did you service it yourself?

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In the USA you can buy air con regas kits in supermarkets and hardware stores and shops like Walmart and Sears.

None of the crap like here where you have to be a licenced fridgie to buy gas.

[vk2loz]

I've had aircon blokes remark on that in the past.
How did you service it yourself?

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Just a vac and regas ,

Just wondering is people know the aircon filters for the outside air are just under the front screen , 2 screws and pull out , mine were full of dust and leaves .

[vk2loz]

131656
In the USA you can buy air con regas kits in supermarkets and hardware stores and shops like Walmart and Sears.

None of the crap like here where you have to be a licenced fridgie to buy gas.

true in the states you can buy cans of one shot , they have a shrader valve , you conect the can on the low pressure side open the tap and the gas gets sucked in ,

1.250 Kg`s is a lot of gas a falcon takes 760+-50 grams

[vk2loz]

Yep, I had mine regased last weekend after replacing a leaky hose.
The air con guy commented that it took a lot of gas, much more than most cars.
He said that is as much as a truck air conditioner takes!
Like yours, mine is so cold now, I should be set for summer.
I also recently replaced a few bulbs including some of the HEVAC ones, I was lucky to find some of the correct ones at my local autobarn. They had a special case of unusual bulbs and just happened to match what I needed. It's a good idea to take in the bulbs you want to replace so you can be certain you are getting the correct bulbs.
Cheers, Pete.


Thanks pete ,, $2 each at the local parts store ,, will stick them in today ,,
Cheers

[JohnnyB]

HiChill 30 is a replacement gas that can be used in R134a systems that does not require a license to buy or use. It is a hydrocarbon gas.

[Eevo]

and from other posts of this forums, its a complete load of BS

[Bigbjorn]

131656

true in the states you can buy cans of one shot , they have a shrader valve , you conect the can on the low pressure side open the tap and the gas gets sucked in ,

1.250 Kg`s is a lot of gas a falcon takes 760+-50 grams

I read the instructions on the Walmart offering. You hook it up and run the system and turn off the gas when there are no longer any bubbles in the sight glass.

[scarry]

I read the instructions on the Walmart offering. You hook it up and run the system and turn off the gas when there are no longer any bubbles in the sight glass.


So what do they do when the system doesn't have a glass?

Most don't anymore,cost saving.

Overcharging a system is not good[bigsad]

Weird,in the US they are very strict with environmental issue in some areas,but very very lax in others.

[Toxic_Avenger]

and from other posts of this forums, its a complete load of BS

What's BS?
The use of refrigerants in contradiction to the Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Act 1989?

It's a licensed and strictly regulated trade for a reason.
The one shot products are not supplied in AU for this very reason.

[Eevo]

What's BS?
The use of refrigerants in contradiction to the Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Act 1989?

It's a licensed and strictly regulated trade for a reason.
The one shot products are not supplied in AU for this very reason.

other way around.
the chill 30 is BS.

[scarry]

other way around.
the chill 30 is BS.

WE don't use it,not being in Auto air,but i know guys who do,and it works well.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Thanks for clarifying eevo.

The Hychill products are often used in the farming equipment, as it's easily accessed, and cheap. There are some concerns with flammability, but this is the way many of the refrigerants are heading (R1234YF is a flammable replacement for r134a, which is in most automobiles, will be phased out over the coming years).

Last time I was audited by the Australian refrigeration Council, we were discussing Hychill, and according to the ARC, non licensed filling of a system 'designed' to be used with a refrigerant can be considered a breach. It's an evolving area of refrigeration which the law is attempting to catch up with, so watch this space.

[Eevo]

u can also gas ur aircon with propone. works very well

[incisor]

Hychill is pretty much lpg I thought

[Toxic_Avenger]

Hychill -30 is a mix of propane and butane. Pretty much the same as your household LPG blend that you might use on a BBQ or for your hot water heater.

[Eevo]

Hychill -30 is a mix of propane and butane. Pretty much the same as your household LPG blend that you might use on a BBQ or for your hot water heater.

and if in an accident and the lines rupture...

[Toxic_Avenger]

There could be a boom I suppose.
Big Bada-boom.

The reality is that refrigerants are tending towards low GWP (Global warming potential) 'natural' refrigerants like propane, CO2, and ammonia. The CFC's, HCFC's, and some of the other 'nasty' ones are being phased out slowly but steadily.
The issue with CO2 is that it needs higher pressures. Ammonia is a toxic gas.

With this change in refrigerants, the ARC is trying to protect a trade which would be over-run with 'home gamers' if it is deregulated- not to mention the copious amounts of refrigerant that will not be suitably evacuated and disposed of if it becomes the DIY work of the everyday man. Not to mention the associated environmental impact. While the home gamers can oftentimes do the job and do it well, the specialised tools to recover the refrigerant is often not available to them.

Hychill is, from what I understand more volatile from a LEL (Lower explosive limit) than some of the other low GWP alternatives. 1250g of propane or equivalent will create a nice bang or a solid fireball, and not one you'd want confined in an engine compartment with all the other assicoated flammable stuff, melty wires, etc. But lesser of two evils I guess, from an environmental perspective.

[Eevo]

But lesser of two evils I guess, from an environmental perspective.
tell that to firefighters who cut people out of cars or fight cars fires.

[Toxic_Avenger]

I understand. I sell R134a most days of the week. Fact of the matter is that the legislation is moving to low GWP, and oftentimes flammable refrigerants, however the car manufacturers are resisting as long as they can given the current phase out periods. CO2 or ammonia in LV HVAC systems is just too expensive (IIRC there are only a few marques which use CO2, AKA R744). Economically, r134a can be had for well under $20 bucks a kilo, R1234YF is around $300. Hychill is a faction of that, hence why it's so attractive.
So as you can see, we're stuck in a purgatory between being environmentally responsible, safe(er), and cost effective. Bigger factors at play than any of us can work against.

The take home message is to get your AC work done by a pro. Keep a tradie in a job, don't break the law by DIY, and ensure it's done correctly and safely so you don't have a vehicle fire, refrigerant leak, or worse.

[p38arover]

One of our former members, ladas, might disagree on how dangerous these gases are.


An interesting thing I saw when I was doing a training course in Sri Lanka once.

I work with hydrocarbon refrigerants - basically highly refined propane and isobutane (No its not BBQ gas)

Typically with HC as a refrigerant approximately 200 - 300 grams is used, and during this training class I have one protagonist who was stiring up the class - saying it was dangerous, he was a real pain.

When we broke for lunch - he was leaving for the day, and it was interesting to see

A BBQ /LPG gas bottle - laying on its side - held down with one of those rubbery straps with hooks on the end in the back of his Datsun station waggon, and a flexible hose running through the firewall.

Yep he was running his car on LPG from this BBQ cylinder (maybe 9 - 10 kgs) sat inside the car.............

.....................and he was having a pop at HC refrigerants @ 200 grams.

I had to laugh .............

[vk2loz]

Yep, I had mine regased last weekend after replacing a leaky hose.
The air con guy commented that it took a lot of gas, much more than most cars.
He said that is as much as a truck air conditioner takes!
Like yours, mine is so cold now, I should be set for summer.
I also recently replaced a few bulbs including some of the HEVAC ones, I was lucky to find some of the correct ones at my local autobarn. They had a special case of unusual bulbs and just happened to match what I needed. It's a good idea to take in the bulbs you want to replace so you can be certain you are getting the correct bulbs.
Cheers, Pete.


So what do they do when the system doesn't have a glass?

Most don't anymore,cost saving.

Overcharging a system is not good[bigsad]

Weird,in the US they are very strict with environmental issue in some areas,but very very lax in others.


You dont need a sight glass ,
If you look at the guages when running your Low pressure guage will show ambiant temp of the gass in the system ,, you want this to be sitting between -3 and +3 with the )Red) High pressure guage it would be ideal at about 40 pis running ,
Thats with 134a gas , R21 runs higher pressuer and R12 ( we cant use anymore ) runs lower temps and pressures ,,
next time i will take a few pictures ,
Bob

[vk2loz]

One of our former members, ladas, might disagree on how dangerous these gases are.






I was in darwin i was driving a old 80 series landcriuser any how this car was getting scrapped in a week and the aircon gas ran out due to a leak , i repaired the leak and charged the system with LPG , Yes LPG
It was the coldest air i ever had !

when we scrapped it we vac out the system just in case ,,,,

[vk2loz]

I understand. I sell R134a most days of the week. Fact of the matter is that the legislation is moving to low GWP, and oftentimes flammable refrigerants, however the car manufacturers are resisting as long as they can given the current phase out periods. CO2 or ammonia in LV HVAC systems is just too expensive (IIRC there are only a few marques which use CO2, AKA R744). Economically, r134a can be had for well under $20 bucks a kilo, R1234YF is around $300. Hychill is a faction of that, hence why it's so attractive.
So as you can see, we're stuck in a purgatory between being environmentally responsible, safe(er), and cost effective. Bigger factors at play than any of us can work against.

The take home message is to get your AC work done by a pro. Keep a tradie in a job, don't break the law by DIY, and ensure it's done correctly and safely so you don't have a vehicle fire, refrigerant leak, or worse.


Get it done right ,,

What bakes my can of beans is the government saying how we cant have coal fired power stations due to climate change ,
Then sells the coal to china Im sure last time i looked we were on the same planet ?

if you burn the coal here or in china / india wont it make the same polution ?

i say keep it here and give the pensioners FREE electric ,,,,

Polititions think we are stupid ,,
bloody dual citizens [bigwhistle]

we have so much OIL in bass straight , so much coal in QLD and WA , why are we not richer than the saudis ?

YEP POLITITIONS !

come on Ron I want to hear your 2 bob`s worth on this mate ,,,,,

[vk2loz]

What's BS?
The use of refrigerants in contradiction to the Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Act 1989?

It's a licensed and strictly regulated trade for a reason.
The one shot products are not supplied in AU for this very reason.


other way around.
the chill 30 is BS.


And smells like LPG ,

[Bigbjorn]

So what do they do when the system doesn't have a glass?

Most don't anymore,cost saving.

Overcharging a system is not good[bigsad]

Weird,in the US they are very strict with environmental issue in some areas,but very very lax in others.

Most Walmart customers drive old cars.

[scarry]

You dont need a sight glass ,
If you look at the guages when running your Low pressure guage will show ambiant temp of the gass in the system ,, you want this to be sitting between -3 and +3 with the )Red) High pressure guage it would be ideal at about 40 pis running ,
Thats with 134a gas , R21 runs higher pressuer and R12 ( we cant use anymore ) runs lower temps and pressures ,,
next time i will take a few pictures ,
Bob

"suction temp"

HP at 40PSI ?Something incorrect there.....

So the DIY guy who buys a can of 134a from Walmart has a set of gauges,and knows where the pressures should be,and has a HP gauge as well?
And also knows that these pressures are all related to ambient temps and load on the evap.

Or he/she could vac the system out,with the recently purchased Vac pump,and weigh it in using an accurate set of digital scales?

I wouldn't have thought so.

Oh,and we can, and do, still use R12,as long as it is used as per the correct guidelines,and by correctly accredited tradesman, no issues with any regulations at all.

Disposable cans of refrigerant were available here years ago,but were subsequently banned when refrigerants became a controlled substance.

[Bigbjorn]

"suction temp"

HP at 40PSI ?Something incorrect there.....

So the DIY guy who buys a can of 134a from Walmart has a set of gauges,and knows where the pressures should be,and has a HP gauge as well?
And also knows that these pressures are all related to ambient temps and load on the evap.

Or he/she could vac the system out,with the recently purchased Vac pump,and weigh it in using an accurate set of digital scales?

I wouldn't have thought so.

Oh,and we can, and do, still use R12,as long as it is used as per the correct guidelines,and by correctly accredited tradesman, no issues with any regulations at all.

Disposable cans of refrigerant were available here years ago,but were subsequently banned when refrigerants became a controlled substance.


They were indeed. I used to get them from the auto section at K-Mart to gas up the family cars. I was quite put out when they were withdrawn from sale. Those trades that are restricted by licences such as fridgies, plumbers, electricians, I notice their charges are quite inflated

[rick130]

I notice their charges are quite inflated

A little off topic, but I always laugh at this type of comment!

The company I work for's non contact rate is $105/HR.

We do large HVAC/R, think massive chiller systems, commercial refrigeration and specialised stuff, yestersay I was working on a system cooling a multi million dollar scientific machine for a large government client.
Compare that to a motor mechanics rate, or any other trade, or anyone charging an hourly rate, it's quite a bit less.
I don't earn massive money for my skill level, probably less than most at my age and experience yet i keep hearing that tradies are earning the big $.

I also know how much I cost my employer, they don't earn that much out of that hourly rate when you add my wage, super, workers comp, all insurances and other overheads in.

So many bleat about what others charge and that wages are too high in this country but I never see anyone putting their hand up to take a wage cut!

[rick130]

and if in an accident and the lines rupture...Hmm, maybe 300g of R290 vs how much if the car is running on LPG?
Or petrol for that matter?

So many other things that are flammable and will burn in accident too, I really think the potential safety risks are overstated.

Hell, I carry D size oxy/acetylene daily.
Now that's a potential bomb!

[Bigbjorn]

A little off topic, but I always laugh at this type of comment!

The company I work for's non contact rate is $105/HR.

We do large HVAC/R, think massive chiller systems, commercial refrigeration and specialised stuff, yestersay I was working on a system cooling a multi million dollar scientific machine for a large government client.
Compare that to a motor mechanics rate, or any other trade, or anyone charging an hourly rate, it's quite a bit less.
I don't earn massive money for my skill level, probably less than most at my age and experience yet i keep hearing that tradies are earning the big $.

I also know how much I cost my employer, they don't earn that much out of that hourly rate when you add my wage, super, workers comp, all insurances and other overheads in.

So many bleat about what others charge and that wages are too high in this country but I never see anyone putting their hand up to take a wage cut!

I was thinking of the self-employed ones who do house calls. Seem to charge like the Light horse. Competition restricted by licences, almost monopolistic.

[scarry]

I was thinking of the self-employed ones who do house calls. Seem to charge like the Light horse. Competition restricted by licences, almost monopolistic.

I agree with Rick 100%.

In our game,around here,if you are not charging at least$100/hr,plus GST,and getting a descent mark up on your gear,you won't be around for long.

Particularly in the AC game,doing domestic stuff,is extremely competitive,actually many companies doing 'house calls' have given it away,because there is no money in it.

Most refrigeration guys doing house calls have also disappeared,for the same reason.

Just a fact of the way it is in business,too many compliances,red tape,heaps of overheads,on it goes.

Actually, the massive increase of congestion on the roads here has recently caused us to increase our rates,and charge travel time.

We are on the road all day,doing service work,break downs,etc.

I should have a fair idea what is going on,26 yrs self employed,40yrs in the industry..........

And at these charge out rates,we never seem to be short of work.

Just my 2 cents worth.

[vk2loz]

Most Walmart customers drive old cars.


Hmm, maybe 300g of R290 vs how much if the car is running on LPG?
Or petrol for that matter?

So many other things that are flammable and will burn in accident too, I really think the potential safety risks are overstated.

Hell, I carry D size oxy/acetylene daily.
Now that's a potential bomb!


I was thinking of the self-employed ones who do house calls. Seem to charge like the Light horse. Competition restricted by licences, almost monopolistic.


A little off topic, but I always laugh at this type of comment!

The company I work for's non contact rate is $105/HR.

We do large HVAC/R, think massive chiller systems, commercial refrigeration and specialised stuff, yestersay I was working on a system cooling a multi million dollar scientific machine for a large government client.
Compare that to a motor mechanics rate, or any other trade, or anyone charging an hourly rate, it's quite a bit less.
I don't earn massive money for my skill level, probably less than most at my age and experience yet i keep hearing that tradies are earning the big $.

I also know how much I cost my employer, they don't earn that much out of that hourly rate when you add my wage, super, workers comp, all insurances and other overheads in.

So many bleat about what others charge and that wages are too high in this country but I never see anyone putting their hand up to take a wage cut!

I ran my bussiness with 4 employes the cost assosiated with employing a person is massive , I believe now thats why so many small bussiness are employing people as contractors with there own ABN ,,

Im semi retired now so i dont worry so much about money ,,, if you dont need to spend it you dont need to earn it ,
but the south coast nsw is becoming south sydney ,, our houses have jumped so high ,,,,
I pitty the kids they better be charging $250 PH as they will need it just for there deposit ,,
my son had to move 4 hours down the coadt to Bega ( very nice spot ) just to be able to buy a house ,,,,,

Its a hard one i know ,, we have developers banging on our door every week ,, but then what walk with 2.4 mill and move ,,,,, maybe one day
OH our councel has lowered the size (min) of blocks of land to 300SM 300 thats a car spot ? i have 5000sm here , res industrial on a corner
when we purchased no one wanted land here ,,now its hot ,,,, have to get lucky some time !

[Bigbjorn]

I ran my bussiness with 4 employes the cost assosiated with employing a person is massive , I believe now thats why so many small bussiness are employing people as contractors with there own ABN ,,

Im semi retired now so i dont worry so much about money ,,, if you dont need to spend it you dont need to earn it ,
but the south coast nsw is becoming south sydney ,, our houses have jumped so high ,,,,
I pitty the kids they better be charging $250 PH as they will need it just for there deposit ,,
my son had to move 4 hours down the coadt to Bega ( very nice spot ) just to be able to buy a house ,,,,,

Its a hard one i know ,, we have developers banging on our door every week ,, but then what walk with 2.4 mill and move ,,,,, maybe one day
OH our councel has lowered the size (min) of blocks of land to 300SM 300 thats a car spot ? i have 5000sm here , res industrial on a corner
when we purchased no one wanted land here ,,now its hot ,,,, have to get lucky some time !

300 square metres is roughly 12 perches. Minimum "small lot development" in Brisbane City Council is 400 sq. ms. unless of course you pass out brown paper bags and get permission to subdivide smaller.

I had an old fashioned window air conditioner stop working. I 'phoned a guy from the Local Business Directory that gets shoved in our mailbox periodically. He quoted $125 for the call which covered the first 15 minutes and $130 per hour charged in 15 minute increments after that. "In your dreams, buddy" was my thought. I dug out the extension ladder and the tool box and delved into it. Seized bearing in a fan motor causing a circuit breaker to trip. fortunately it is an old machine and the motor was repairable not sealed up. Down to BSC and two bearings and $15 later all is well again.

[vk2loz]

300 square metres is roughly 12 perches. Minimum "small lot development" in Brisbane City Council is 400 sq. ms. unless of course you pass out brown paper bags and get permission to subdivide smaller.

I had an old fashioned window air conditioner stop working. I 'phoned a guy from the Local Business Directory that gets shoved in our mailbox periodically. He quoted $125 for the call which covered the first 15 minutes and $130 per hour charged in 15 minute increments after that. "In your dreams, buddy" was my thought. I dug out the extension ladder and the tool box and delved into it. Seized bearing in a fan motor causing a circuit breaker to trip. fortunately it is an old machine and the motor was repairable not sealed up. Down to BSC and two bearings and $15 later all is well again.




I love it ,, well done !
$15 fix

[Fyst]

HiChill 30 is a replacement gas that can be used in R134a systems that does not require a license to buy or use. It is a hydrocarbon gas.

If you need to re gas your AC it’s leaking, leaks need to be repaired. Topping up a system with a hydrocarbon is not recommended, and could be problematic if the original leak is in the components in the cabin

[JohnnyB]

You are right, any change of gas should be a full system change over. It is not uncommon for ac systems that are not sealed units to leak minute amounts of gas from the shaft seal, such systems will eventually need topping up i.e. servicing

[Fyst]

You are right, any change of gas should be a full system change over. It is not uncommon for ac systems that are not sealed units to leak minute amounts of gas from the shaft seal, such systems will eventually need topping up i.e. servicing

such systems need leaking shaft seals or complete compressor changes to prevent the loss of a controlled substance i.e. repairs. Not being filled up with a substance they were not designed for.

[scarry]

Leaking shaft seals or rubber hoses is all old hat.

These days,from about 20yrs ago,vehicles will often go a lifetime without needing any "top up" of refrigerant.

If a leak does develop,the leak will have to be located,and repaired,as per mandatory regulations.

[FisherX]

As far as the Hychill minus 30 is concerned I'm a big fan... Been using it for years.

First used it in my Disco 2 V8 ES with duel A/C when I fitted a set of headers that melted a flexi hose to the compressor. A/C guy quoted me $1100 for the repair and a charge of 134a and THAT WAS AT MATES RATES[bawl].

That's when I found the Hychill product.

Well I had low expections cause it was so cheap. So I bought a second hand replacement flex line, didn't vac the system or replace the dryer, just purged the system with the Hychill and dropped in the rest 450g can.

It worked great. Nice and chilly and didn't have to touch till I sold the D2 4 years later. And being in Cairns the A/C is in use all the time.

So since then I have a vac pump and a decent set of gauges and I've done my RRC, my Jag and my Sigma (the right way this time with vacuuming out the system and replacing the dryers) and all is well.

I even did a mates car the other day and on the test drive the outlet temp in the cabin got down as far as 10 degrees. That's pretty impressive in the 30+ heat up here at the moment. And only $45 bucks for the can.

As far as worrying about it being flammable? Not worried a all. 400g of Hychill in the A/C or 80L of LPG in the boot of the Leyland! The 80L of LPG worries me more..

The issue I see with getting a professional in to do the work is they are restricted with what they can do. If your A/C needs regassed they are obliged to find and repair the leak before they can gas it up. If they don't they'll have an unhappy customer if it needs done again anytime soon that will trash them on Facebook.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Yeah, but no...

I hate to be a stick in the mud, but this stuff isn't something the home gamer should be doing.
To the letter of the law, you'd need to be a licensed Tradie with a refrigeration handling licence (RHL) to legally do that work, as even though hychill is an uncontrolled substance, its in a controlled system, and it's the components of that system which are also controlled [source] (http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/cth/consol_reg/opasggmr1995669/s111.html). Same as how I can buy all the stuff at Bunnings to wire my house but couldn't make all the connections.
The refrigeration law is set out in the Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Act 1989 (http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdb/au/legis/cth/consol_act/opasggma1989560/), and the Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Regulations 1995 (http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdb/au/legis/cth/consol_reg/opasggmr1995669/).

I still believe supporting a local fridgie is a better bet than trying to (successfully or otherwise) do this work yourself. The restrictions on them are not there for lining their own pockets, they are there as a part of a law, and environmental and safety best practice. As such, it's probably a bad idea doing it for others too...

Some reading. The fines can be outrageous, so don't poke the bear!
Fact sheet- penalties (https://www.google.com.au/url'sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0ahUKEwixnZXg1b3XAhVHlpQKHYw8CH4QFghAMAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arctick.org%2Fmedia%2F1111%2F fact-sheet-11-penalties-under-the-act-and-the-regulations.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1YhaEvbNRN9yMYs4czRCPk)
Natural refrigerants case study (http://www.environment.gov.au/system/files/resources/38b4f6fc-9232-49d0-9550-68558bd26978/files/refrigerants-guide.pdf)

[vk2loz]

wow i thought this thread would be long dead <<SORRY EVERYONE>>






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Yep, I had mine regased last weekend after replacing a leaky hose.
The air con guy commented that it took a lot of gas, much more than most cars.
He said that is as much as a truck air conditioner takes!
Like yours, mine is so cold now, I should be set for summer.
I also recently replaced a few bulbs including some of the HEVAC ones, I was lucky to find some of the correct ones at my local autobarn. They had a special case of unusual bulbs and just happened to match what I needed. It's a good idea to take in the bulbs you want to replace so you can be certain you are getting the correct bulbs.
Cheers, Pete.

[Keithy P38]

Never fear mate! It’s a friendly forum and all makes interesting reading!

Cheers
Keithy

[metfast]

Just joined this forum and have enjoyed this thread.