Contemplating 2nd Hand RRS

[Archangel007]

Hi Guys,

Contemplating buying a 2nd hand RRS if I can't find what I want in a Disco 4.

Can anyone tell me if there were any options with an RRS when purchased from a dealer - like sunroof or such.
I know that they came in a few different engine configurations but I think the 3.0 litre diesel would suit me best for towing.

Anyone car to chime in what to look for and what to look out for!
Basically, the good, the bad and the downright ugly!

Cheers,
Tricky

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2010 on v6 - some will say v8 .
V8 sounds much better , but not that much more power , v8 were specked higher .
6 speed auto is fine , I think the 8 speed was a rotary knob .

2012 on had 8 speed , single powered tailgate - not split like earlier versions , more chrome trim , LSE spec was standard ?

I have a 2009 built 2010 - v6 ,6 speed - with a DPF . 197k ,just had new trans fitted . Blue with black trim ,no sunroof ,no seat heaters ,not memory seats .

Has towed a lot , not super heavy stuff - camper trailer 1000kg , small caravan 1400kg .camper goes off-road .
Economical , great towrig - and I tow a lot !
Comfy ,fast , knowing you can go anywhere with confidence - unless the gearbox craps itself ! Even then I drove home 1000km

RRS are a lot more reasonably priced than a disco 4 ,less kms ( relative ) but not much aftermarket add ons
Buy your own servicing gear , and a diagnostic tool

Hope this helps , happy to answer Qs

[rar110]

I would get the facelift tdv8 my10 RRS. it’s a great motor. Very easy to disable the EGR. I have it in a L322 MY08. No timing belts on the tdv8.

[Redhead]

I have a RRS 4.2 ltr V8 Supercharged. I would recommend it over a Diesel V6 .
I just got back from towing 1600kg about 300klms- did it easily. Petrol might work out dearer than Diesel but you will save $1000's on purchase which would make up for the extra cost of Fuel. They are economical on a run but a bit thirsty around town. But you will have a smile on your face regarding how well they perform compared to the Diesel.[bigsmile1]
I am just a little biased !!!!!!
Mine has a sunroof , but unless you live in certain parts of Australia I would not recommend having one. We have only been able to use ours 4-5 times in 4 years and only when doing less than 80kph.[bighmmm]

[Archangel007]

Awesome responses thanks guys!!

Rex - I heard the V8 diesel has better fuel economy than the 3.0 litre V6 and 40Nm more torque - is this true? Is you V6 the 2.7 litre or the 3.0 litre diesel (not sure when the cut-over was from 2.7 to 3.0)?? Not really worried about after-market add-on's nor the extra seating capacity!

RAR110 - what's the servicing intervals on the V8? Any inherent problems with this motor? So the facelift was from MY10 onwards???

Redhead - yes my son, Plugger, wants me to get the V8 petrol, but just concerned about the fuel economy around town etc. Drove a 3.0 litre TDV6 D4 and was mightily impressed with that engine. Copy on the sunroof but hey, if it comes with it....!!

What are the different spec levels, if anyone knows?

Cheers and thanks,
Tricky

[101RRS]

I have a 2.7TDV6 L320 - series 1.

If I was to buy another L320 I would go the Series 2 update with the 3.6TDV8 but you will be pushed to find one as they were not sold for too long. Failing that the TDV6 which is the 3.0 in that model - it only has a little less power and torque than the TDV8 but the TDV8 sounds oh so good.

The basic specification is linked to the engine - basic is TDV6, next is TDV8 and highest is the Supercharged Petrol V8 - you will need to research the different spec levels - not necessarily the same as the equivalent D4 - also our specs are different to Uk specs so research AU sites.

Also remember you will need to consider your usage - the D4 is 7" longer in the wheelbase than the RRS and is a lot more boxier - the rear of the RRS slopes so you loose a bit of higher cargo area space. The RRS dash is sloped so feels a bit more comfortable that the very upright Disco dash - the Disco has more sockets etc.

So really it comes down to what you need - I just have me and the RRS is fine - if I had a family with a few rug rats and lots of camping gear then the Disco would be more suitable.

Hope this helps.

Garry

[Geedublya]

I have a 2.7TDV6 L320 - series 1.

If I was to buy another L320 I would go the Series 2 update with the 3.6TDV8 but you will be pushed to find one as they were not sold for too long. Failing that the TDV6 which is the 3.0 in that model - it only has a little less power and torque than the TDV8 but the TDV8 sounds oh so good.

The basic specification is linked to the engine - basic is TDV6, next is TDV8 and highest is the Supercharged Petrol V8 - you will need to research the different spec levels - not necessarily the same as the equivalent D4 - also our specs are different to Uk specs so research AU sites.

Also remember you will need to consider your usage - the D4 is 7" longer in the wheelbase than the RRS and is a lot more boxier - the rear of the RRS slopes so you loose a bit of higher cargo area space. The RRS dash is sloped so feels a bit more comfortable that the very upright Disco dash - the Disco has more sockets etc.

So really it comes down to what you need - I just have me and the RRS is fine - if I had a family with a few rug rats and lots of camping gear then the Disco would be more suitable.

Hope this helps.

Garry

Garry has it spot-on, I looked at RRS before buying my D3 but the interior wasn't suited for family use. The V8 Supercharged would be great but I don't think you can get an auxiliary tank for the RRS and filling up every 300-400 km would get tedious very quickly for me.

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G'day Tricky !
Mine is a 3.0ltr v6 , when I was looking this was the best driving one out of the limited number available .
i drove newer ,older and all engine versions back to back .

but I had set a dollar limit , really wanted a Nara Bronze Hse with a mocha interior ....ended up with a Buckingham Blue on Ebony basic spec !

iunderstood the gearbox was the weak link and shopped knowing that a higher Kay car came with ...baggage ... timing belts were done and now the trans . So , I guess next will be lower control arms and maybe air springs , then brakes .


i looked at trading it on a newer version , same colour 2014 hse version , just under 50km . But i couldn't justify the extra almost $40k . And mine was cleaner inside after almost 200,000km - my dad has sat in the back twice !!!!

if in 12-18 months maybe I'll be tempted - mmmmmmmmm Velar .

My aim with our cars is 300,000 km - we should be fine .

I cant seem to link to some brouchure s , but will do so in morning . I have them saved on my iPad and my work computer . A go-go-olge search will bring them up also .

Half the the fun is searching once a decision is made , and there is occasionally a bargain opposite up - Kyneton toyota had a random RRS recently , MLR at port Melbourne often has one . I think a lot were on 2 year leases and are up .

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Economy is fine for a 2.5 tonne brick - I av approx 9.3l/100km , have towed our caravan it went up , To approx 14-15 .

Goes really well well for a big girl , it certainly can 'keep up with traffic '

Handling is as expected , it's a box on wheels ,but a very comfy box .

Heading to Tassie in a couple of weeks with the camper so I'm a bit excited !

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http://australiancar.reviews/_pdfs/LandRover_RangeRoverSport_L320-II_Brochure_201007.pdf

[101RRS]

http://australiancar.reviews/_pdfs/LandRover_RangeRoverSport_L320-II_Brochure_201007.pdf

That brochure was obviously prepared after the TDV8 has been dropped in the "Series 2". I guess in everyday driving there is little between the TDV8 and the TDV6 except for sound (a tin full of rocks vs a super cool throaty sound) and no rubber band cam belt on the TDV8 to have to worry about, and I dont think there are crank failures in the TDV8.

Garry

[Redhead]

Garry has it spot-on, I looked at RRS before buying my D3 but the interior wasn't suited for family use. The V8 Supercharged would be great but I don't think you can get an auxiliary tank for the RRS and filling up every 300-400 km would get tedious very quickly for me.
Well you would have to have a lead foot or do a lot of Metro driving.
I just got back from doing a trip where 2oo+ klms was towing and 275klms driving in the country and still showed 108klms to empty.
As I posted previously they are thirsty in stop/start city/suburban traffic but quite economical out of town.
Yes, you can get an auxiliary tank for an RRS. Its the same aux.'Fuel' tank thats available for Discovery's it can be either Petrol or Diesel. This information might help those wanting to do a long trip.

[Geedublya]

Metro my V8 D4 gets 18-20 L/100 on a trip 12-14L/100. Most of my driving is Metro stop start and my D4 is heavy. 400km would be about my maximum range day to day on the standard tank but I have a 92l auxiliary as well so usually see 900km which is acceptable. A long range tank on the RRS would mean no spare, a wheel carrier or spare in the load area, I haven't seen a wheel carrier on a RRS but I suppose it is possible (but ugly), spare in the load area isn't practical for me as I need it for tools and other gear.

[rar110]

The service intervals on the tdv8 started at 12,000km but ended up going to 24,000km, with the same motor and oil. Go figure. Mine has been serviced every 10,000km from new. The tdv8 has 640Nm of torque which is amazing, and goes to 700Nm with a standard remap. I’ve never felt short with the standard tune.

The tdv8 has no timing belts and never heard of a crank case/big end bearing failure. Retiring the EGR seems to help these motors keep their pipes clean. The most known issue with these motors is turbo failure. I’m at 265,000km and runs beautiful. I think 10k oil changes, induction cleaner and EGR mod all help a lot.

The 4.2sc is said to be one of the best motors put into a RR. I think the 5.0 na would also be pretty good.

[Archangel007]

It sounds like the TD V8 is the beast to get - pity there are so few of them about.
I guess the downside is the cost of rego - >$1,100+ here in QLD - and the fuel economy.

Interestingly enough, Wikipedia website shows the TD V8 has better fuel economy than the TD V6!!
Range Rover Sport - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_Rover_Sport)
But I guess you have to be nuts to believe everything on Wiki - but 11.1l/100km is better than my 3.0l Nissan Patrol!

I think I am leaning towards the RRS, I don't need 7 seats and I really would like some comfort, refinement, performance and style now after driving around in Nissan's for so long.

Now to find one for a reasonable price.....

Cheers,
Tricky

[p38brickus]

You won't regret it, Tricky. :thumbsup:

[101RRS]

I guess the downside is the cost of rego - >$1,100+ here in QLD - and the fuel economy.

Why do you think the fuel economy will be bad - your own research shows it is good unless you have been looking at the petrol V8 which is not so good. $1100 for a years rego and 3rd party sounds about right for any RRS - I pay that for my TDv6.

As I indicated the TDV8 would be my pick in either a series 1 or series 2 but will be hard to find in series 2 and have a price premium. Plenty of series 1s but I only counted a couple of series 2s on Carsales.

Garry

[p38brickus]

Rego for my RRS TDV8 in Vic is $668 and my wife's BMW X5 TD6 is $337. Her's has concessional rego though. I don't think I'll move to Qld in that case.
Fuel economy for my car is in the 9's without towing and 14-15 L/100 when towing our van. More than happy with that.

[101RRS]

Rego for my RRS TDV8 in Vic is $668

Is that just the rego component or the full rego cost with 3rd party insurance. If it is the full thing then maybe we all should move to Vic.

My rego is $480, 3rd Party $550 plus another $60 or so in admin fees and levys bringing the total Rego Cost to $1090. I thought is was basically the same overall amount within $100 or so for most states.

[p38brickus]

Is that just the rego component or the full rego cost with 3rd party insurance. If it is the full thing then maybe we all should move to Vic.

My rego is $480, 3rd Party $550 plus another $60 or so in admin fees and levys bringing the total Rego Cost to $1090. I thought is was basically the same overall amount within $100 or so for most states.

132090

This is the cost part. Trust me it is for my RRS TDV8, I'm just not showing the other details because if I did, I'd have to kill you. [smilebigeye]

[rar110]

I just paid $1094 for 12 mths in Qld. Victoria is cheap.

[101RRS]

Well lets all move to Victoria - nah it is the Nanny State and is full of Victorians. [bigsad]

[p38brickus]

I agree, it's full of Mexitorians. I'm actually a South Australian, only live here by marriage. I'll never be a Mexitorian. [smilebigeye]

[Bytemrk]

As I indicated the TDV8 would be my pick in either a series 1 or series 2 but will be hard to find in series 2 and have a price premium. Plenty of series 1s but I only counted a couple of series 2s on Carsales.

Garry

Garry, slightly off topic, but do you happen to know if a locking rear diff was an option on these? All the TDV8 series 2 RRS's I've seen have an open rear diff - not a big deal, but wondered if a locker was ever an option? I've seen ads that claim a diff lock - but Topix says otherwise - so likely they mean centre.

[101RRS]

My understanding is that like D3/D4s where the electronic rear diff was an option, it was also on the TDV8 and all RRS (L320). But realistically almost no RRS were bought to go offroad when new so few e-diffs would have been ordered on new car options lists.

But unless hard core offroading really the Traction Control system is more than up to the task.

Garry

[Bytemrk]

Thanks Garry,

My D4 hasn't got the E-Diff and I must admit I've never missed it despite plenty of off road - was just curious.

[Archangel007]

Not much difference between 6-cylinder rego and V8 rego here in QLD, less than $150, so I don't mind owning a V8 really (when in fact my wifes '41 Lincoln Continental has a 8.3 litre - 500 cubic inch - Caddie V8 and my '56 F100 has a 6.8 litre supercharged Ford V10 [bigwhistle]) so that's not really an issue. Seems the V8 guys are getting pretty good fuel economy too especially when towing - 14-15 litres per 100km was better than my 3.0 litre asthmatic Nissan Patrol, and with twice the torque and 70% more power!!

Once we have relocated to HB and got settled in its time to seriously start looking! I am not fussed whether its the V8 or V6 as both will suit my needs but if a low mileage V8 comes along with the right price tag I will jump on it!

Cheers,
Tricky

[Archangel007]

Well good news I guess.

House is under contract and we are in the process of buying a block of land near the beach which pleases the wife.

Then its a house-build and then a car purchase. Still a little way off but inching ever so closer!

Cheers,
Tricky