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DI5CO
15th November 2017, 03:10 PM
It can’t be that bad!!
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SBD4
15th November 2017, 04:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTjqZP_2ic8
Zeros
15th November 2017, 04:59 PM
Yes it really ticks the boxes across many categories for the majority of aspirational SUV buyers. ...But interestingly the fords cleaned up the 4x4 categories. How does a 4x4 win overall, but not also win best 4x4?
Pedro_The_Swift
15th November 2017, 06:22 PM
I still think it looks like something else from the side,,
all the previous generation looked exactly like what they were,,
and LR sold every last one of those.
as they will these.
so why not keep its identity?
If Mcgovern is doing the defender, I shudder to think.. peas in a pod i reckon.
FFRR owners must be tearing their hair out,,,
rammypluge
18th November 2017, 02:27 PM
I just found out it has a 2.0L 4cyl tt diesel? Like that kinda engine for 40k, but how much is the D5? Was expecting more engine?
Tins
18th November 2017, 02:40 PM
I still think it looks like something else from the side,,
all the previous generation looked exactly like what they were,,
and LR sold every last one of those.
as they will these.
so why not keep its identity?
If Mcgovern is doing the defender, I shudder to think.. peas in a pod i reckon.
FFRR owners must be tearing their hair out,,,.
The right colour helps. Lee Jackson's blue one looks heaps better than the white one I just saw in Sassafras. The darker colour softens that awkward C pillar design.
BobD
18th November 2017, 06:36 PM
I just found out it has a 2.0L 4cyl tt diesel? Like that kinda engine for 40k, but how much is the D5? Was expecting more engine?
There are three engines, two levels of power for the 2l 4 cylinder plus the 3l TDV6. If these engines are good enough for a Range Rover Sport they are certainly good enough for a D5.
PerthDisco
18th November 2017, 08:52 PM
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The right colour helps. Lee Jackson's blue one looks heaps better than the white one I just saw in Sassafras. The darker colour softens that awkward C pillar design.
I saw a white one the other day and was shocked at how yuck it looked. Like a delivery van. I agree some of the other colours (dark silver) on the right angle look just ok. I saw a strange Coke coloured one which was a shock also.
It’s not growing on me.
scarry
18th November 2017, 09:05 PM
I have seen a heap of them around as the stealers have a new showroom not far from home.
It is actually growing on me,apart from the horrid look from the rear.
Just hope some accessories become available,if not, that will be a major issue for us.
rar110
18th November 2017, 09:37 PM
I agree with what someone else said, darker colours conceal some features people don’t like.
rammypluge
19th November 2017, 12:47 AM
There are three engines, two levels of power for the 2l 4 cylinder plus the 3l TDV6. If these engines are good enough for a Range Rover Sport they are certainly good enough for a D5.Similar engine, weight and gearbox to a 40k Amarok. How much are these 4cyl D5?
BobD
19th November 2017, 01:06 AM
What has the engine, weight and gearbox in an Amarok got to do with a D5? Engine size and number of gears has got nothing to do with the cost of a vehicle and comparing a very large high tech wagon with a leaf sprung ute is like comparing apples with oranges, regardless of engines and gearboxes.
I think you are trying to say that the D5 is not good value compared with a ute, which may be correct. However, if you want a large 4x4 wagon then the good value of a ute is irrelevant.
SBD4
19th November 2017, 09:37 AM
Similar engine, weight and gearbox to a 40k Amarok. How much are these 4cyl D5?
Rammy, I think you might have taken a wrong turn on the internet somewhere, The Amarok loving forum is not here. As us Land Rover folk are a friendly bunch and like to be as helpful as we can, here's the link to get you unlost and back to the place you really want to be:
AusAmarok - Volkswagen Amarok Forum of Australia & New Zealand (http://www.ausamarok.com.au/forum/forum.php)
I am sure they will be very happy to hear your musings on how fantastic your Rok is (and we all agree it is) and how crap the D5 is not to mention all its predecessors with independent air suspension and scary electronics that are not real 4WD's.
Zeros
19th November 2017, 02:10 PM
I thought an Amarok might be a sensible, good value alternative to a Defender. I tried it. I was wrong. IMO it just wasn't as good, in so many ways. I sold the Amarok and bought a Defender.
Vern
19th November 2017, 02:56 PM
I thought an Amarok might be a sensible, good value alternative to a Defender. I tried it. I was wrong. IMO it just wasn't as good, in so many ways. I sold the Amarok and bought a Defender.I have a rok, as good and reliable a car that it is, its sooooo boring. Its just a car. I would love a defender over it, but cabin ergonomics are just all wrong for myself and my family.
rammypluge
19th November 2017, 09:13 PM
What has the engine, weight and gearbox in an Amarok got to do with a D5? Engine size and number of gears has got nothing to do with the cost of a vehicle and comparing a very large high tech wagon with a leaf sprung ute is like comparing apples with oranges, regardless of engines and gearboxes.
I think you are trying to say that the D5 is not good value compared with a ute, which may be correct. However, if you want a large 4x4 wagon then the good value of a ute is irrelevant.All i am saying is, i was surprised that they would put such a small engine in it. How many D4 owners are cringing at the thought of 'upgrading'? Compare the idle torque of the 3.0L tt vs the 2.0L tt, the torque-to-weight at gvm, and what about longevity?
I guess its kinda like an S Class Merc with a 3.0L engine, when there are also 4, 5 and 6 litre versions available.
DI5CO
19th November 2017, 09:15 PM
Yeah but around 400kg’s lighter. If they put the TD or SD4 in the D4, yeah nah!!
Performance wise, the SD4 is quicker than the SDV6 in the D4.
rammypluge
20th November 2017, 12:32 PM
Yeah but around 400kg’s lighter. If they put the TD or SD4 in the D4, yeah nah!!
Performance wise, the SD4 is quicker than the SDV6 in the D4.Okay, but 0-100km/h unladen is only one performance measurement. 2100kg isnt light, its just not heavy, not these days anyway.
DI5CO
20th November 2017, 03:24 PM
Well get the TD6! There are options. If you feel the 4 isn’t torquey enough. For my use and coming from a TD5 with 300nm, the 4 would suit me and a lot of people, if your towing a tandem trailer or whatever get the larger engine.
veebs
20th November 2017, 06:03 PM
Well get the TD6! There are options. If you feel the 4 isn’t torquey enough. For my use and coming from a TD5 with 300nm, the 4 would suit me and a lot of people, if your towing a tandem trailer or whatever get the larger engine.
Now get ready for the V6 Amarok comparison...
scarry
20th November 2017, 07:19 PM
Now get ready for the V6 Amarok comparison...
Thats comparing oranges with bananas,little,if any similarity at all,completely different vehicles in completely different classes,in completely different markets.
Arapiles
20th November 2017, 09:44 PM
Thats comparing oranges with bananas,little,if any similarity at all,completely different vehicles in completely different classes,in completely different markets.
Did you mean it's like comparing oranges and hamsters?
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