Help need

[bensdive]

Hi my sister is stuck in Waikerie in South Australia . Her daughter put 15 l of petrol in her discovery 4 diesal.The car has not been move but she is scared that the tow truck driver is going to turn the engine to load the car.If anyone is in the area would be able to find fuel pump fuse and pull it
Your help would be much appreciated
All the best
Ben

[bensdive]

Could Anyone be able tell me where the fuel pump fuse is on a Discovery 4
Thank you

[Gordie]

how about disconnecting battery, or taking another fuse that will stop it starting.

[Graeme]

If the towie is concerned at dragging the vehicle whilst in Park then remove the cup-holders and lift the little while lever on the right rear of the gear selector panel to allow the lever to be pulled out of park.

If the handbrake is on then also under the cup-holders is a wire cable loop which if pulled hard (using the wheel brace or similar tool) will release the handbrake.

Engine bay fuse 1 is for the fuel pump. Also, fuse 4 for ecm fuel pump relay control.

[DiscoMick]

The SA motoring organization should be able to organize to get the tank emptied.

[letherm]

Would 15 litres be ok with a full tank of diesel? I recall other threads where people had no ill effects with small amounts of petrol mixed into a full tank. Be careful though to get a more expert opinion, I'm just recalling what was discussed previously.

Martin

[donh54]

You could get away with some petrol in the older diesels, NOT with Common Rail ones. Drain the tank and be safe.

[PerthDisco]

No one will guarantee anything other than 100% Diesel including me but I reckon 15 litres in a chocabloc full tank would not do any harm.

[67hardtop]

I thought those things had a missfuel device fitted

[DiscoJeffster]

I thought those things had a missfuel device fitted

They do, so they won’t be starting it anyway even if they tried. I assume the electronics stops it starting when triggered but maybe that’s too sensible?

[Mike57]

Look up "Wrong Fuel Rescue" They are in Adelaide and specialise in draining tanks and checking out the vehicle. Wrong Fuel Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney - Fuel Draining - Wrong Fuel Rescue (http://www.wrongfuelrescue.com.au)

[LRD414]

They do, so they won’t be starting it anyway even if they tried. I assume the electronics stops it starting when triggered
Wrong. Misfuel device simply blocks the neck of the fuel spout if triggered by wrong size of filling nozzle, which is presumed to be petrol but could also be a jerry can one inserted too far. It has no connection to anything else.

Scott

[DiscoJeffster]

Wrong. Misfuel device simply blocks the neck of the fuel spout if triggered by wrong size of filling nozzle, which is presumed to be petrol but could also be a jerry can one inserted too far. It has no connection to anything else.

Scott
How bl**dy useless.

[dirvine]

The miss feed is not useless its the 1st line of defence, If you put a bowser hosepipe of the wrong size in the filler neck it shuts off the filler neck to a large degree. To continue to fill after that (which you can) requires a very slow fill flow. If it was fitted to the car, then one would have to rather stupid to continue to keep filling. 15 litres would take at least 5 minutes to put in. I know all this because in the outback many slow flow diesel pumps have the ULP nozzle, and its bloody annoying!. I therefore would presume this model did not have the cut off in the fuel line.

[orville]

The fuel cut off is not reliable. I have used Jerry cans and had the fuel stop work (flick up) with a fuel hose but have used small funnels and small diameter fuel nozzles in country places where it did not trigger.

I have filled the tank with fast flow plenty of times without any problem, just don't pull the handle right up.
Black is usually the diesel.

Look twice then look again before you fill up.

[crawal]

Hey I am getting good at it now SHMBO has done it twice in 6 weeks ,now down to 40 minutes to drain tank.
Check you insurance you may get a free tow to repair place but dont start it

[LRD414]

I’m going to leave the happening twice thing alone and ask what is your method to drain tank so quickly? Any tips appreciated. May need doing one day if fuel pump fails.

Scott

[crawal]

Easy try to keep nose up . the tank filler is on the RH side just in front of the rear wheel. The tank has a rubber hose just off the tank filler , take this off get a 2 m length of hose and a catch can.When you put the hose in it will overflow as tank has small flap catch can gets this the rest should come down the hose .Try not to get the diesel running down the arm(smells ,and wear old clothes ) move the hose around should get all but 5 ltrs , connect the hose easier putting on tank side first put in 10-15 lts , drain this off , connect all up again fill all the way then away you go.[bigsmile]
Get plenty of empty drums and a crap old petrol car to use the fuel , does make good fire lighter fuel (just keep the diesel bit up high) not inside the house :no2:

[dgardel]

You can put 1,5 liters of two stroke oil and you can run safely the engine. (But not less than 1,5 liters)

[Landant]

Wrong. Misfuel device simply blocks the neck of the fuel spout if triggered by wrong size of filling nozzle, which is presumed to be petrol but could also be a jerry can one inserted too far. It has no connection to anything else.

Scott

Not sure about that. I have a 2010 RRS and used a funnel I’d just used to put some unleaded into my old ex army series 3 to put the remainder of a jerry can of diesel into the RRS, the misfuel device closed the neck instantly, did it a couple of times. I then gave the funnel a really thorough wipe and then wiped it over with a bit of diesel, no problem after that. Low flow diesel and petrol nozzles look to be very similar if not the same size to me. I have occasionally had to use high flow diesel to fill up when low flow not available in regional areas and haven’t had a problem.

[jonesy63]

Not sure about that. I have a 2010 RRS and used a funnel I’d just used to put some unleaded into my old ex army series 3 to put the remainder of a jerry can of diesel into the RRS, the misfuel device closed the neck instantly, did it a couple of times. I then gave the funnel a really thorough wipe and then wiped it over with a bit of diesel, no problem after that. Low flow diesel and petrol nozzles look to be very similar if not the same size to me. I have occasionally had to use high flow diesel to fill up when low flow not available in regional areas and haven’t had a problem.

Petrol bowser nozzles are smaller in diameter than diesel ones. The metal spiral-wound clip-on jerry can pourers are the same size as petrol nozzles and do trip the anti-fill device. I suspect your funnel had a larger sized spout.

[Morry948]

15L in a full tank will certainly clean it out...injector cleaner on steroids...but I would be vary carefull

[donh54]

Cost to drain tank vs injection pump rebuild = no brainer

[PerthDisco]

15L in a full tank will certainly clean it out...injector cleaner on steroids...but I would be vary carefull

Internet has many tales of common rail diesels coping with a similar percentage of petrol without any ‘apparent’ harm. Best trick is to further top up 5 to 10 litres a few times promptly afterwards.

[donh54]

Internet has many tales of common rail diesels coping with a similar percentage of petrol without any ‘apparent’ harm. Best trick is to further top up 5 to 10 litres a few times promptly afterwards.

Injection shops have lots of work rebuilding pumps after fuel mistakes, too. For the sake of a couple of hundred bucks, I'd err on the side of caution.

[PerthDisco]

Injection shops have lots of work rebuilding pumps after fuel mistakes, too. For the sake of a couple of hundred bucks, I'd err on the side of caution.

Agree but thinking more for the remote servo stuff up if it’s only 5-10-15 litres before you noticed that black handled nozzle in your hand was the ULP.

[discorevy]

This is all well and good and totally understand mistakes can be made , but I find it's always better to keep the brain engaged until I'm somewhere that the biggest mistake I could make is taking a swig from someone else's beer [bigwhistle]
enjoy the break ... if you have one [thumbsupbig]