Can you replace factory raised intake with a Safari Snorkel?

[Lockee]

Sorry if it has been posted before.

have a factory raised air intake fitted. Does a Safari kit cover where these are fitted?

[jonesy63]

The factory RAI has two nutserts installed above the air intake. The Safari requires there to be three holes drilled around the air intake - however, when the body is installed - it would cover the two nutsert holes. So I say it would fit.

BTW, you require long, noodle-forearms to fit the Safari. The bolt that goes into the top left corner (closest to rear vision mirror) is a shocker to get to. I suggest paying someone to fit it! ;)

Cheers,
Rob

[DieselLSE]

Why would you want to replace the Landrover RAI? It suits the vehicle better and can readily be sealed.

[Lockee]

Why would you want to replace the Landrover RAI? It suits the vehicle better and can readily be sealed.

It’s a bit ugly

[Tombie]

The Safari is uglier, and required cutting a chunk out of the inner guard..
IMO that’s a no from me!

[Lockee]

The Safari is uglier, and required cutting a chunk out of the inner guard..
IMO that’s a no from me!

Ha each to their own

[l00kin4]

Why would you want to replace the Landrover RAI? It suits the vehicle better and can readily be sealed.

Sorry for slight hijack. I much prefer the look of the RAI to the Safari but would prefer it to be waterproof. I've had a look around but apart from discussions around the bend piece having holes which can be sealed and mention that the hose is not actually waterproof, I can't find a thread which outlines in detail how to waterproof the RAI (or is CaverD3's post it? DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Removable Snorkel (https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/removable-snorkel-14190-90.html)) Ritter will do it - they will install it but don't sell a kit.

Thanks,
David

[shamirj]

Each to their own, i have had both and fitted both myself. Must say the pity with the proper sealed Safari one is the cutting of the inner guard which put me off a subsequent purchase, the RAI is so much easier to fit and no cutting to the inner guard. I don't mind the look of the RAI but would prefer it to be a proper sealed unit. both have their benefits and shortfalls if only there was one unit that did both, sealed and was easy to install with no guard chopping.

[loanrangie]

The airflow required some trimming of the inner guard which you dont see once fitted anyway , i dont plan on removing it either.

[TerryO]

Wasn't there a discussion some years back about which unit flowed more air? My memoery might be failing me but I seam to remember that the Safari was given the nod as not only being waterproof standard but also for flowing more air.

I have a Safari fitted to the D3 but reckon the RAI unit looks much better. The one thing that annoys me about the V8 D4 is it uses both air intakes.

[Tombie]

One of the LR indies in Melbourne produces a kit to fully seal the RAI

[DieselLSE]

One of the LR indies in Melbourne produces a kit to fully seal the RAI
Do tell! Any clues as to whom?
I'm just about to install mine and was planning to figure it out all by myself. But if someone's already engineered a solution I'm happy to go along with their wheel and not try to invent another!

[101RRS]

I had heard that in the D4 the pipe from the air intake to the airbox was sealed unlike the D3 pipe which is perforated - so sealing the RAI to the side of the car should not be such an issue.

garry

[DieselLSE]

I had heard that in the D4 the pipe from the air intake to the airbox was sealed unlike the D3 pipe which is perforated - so sealing the RAI to the side of the car should not be such an issue.

garry
This is what I thought, too, Garry. I'll document what I do for the install so others can evaluate my procedure. I've pretty well pulled the car apart as I fit a Brown-Davis long range tank (I asked them to engineer a lower profile tank 50mm higher), LLAMS, emergency tailgate release, GOE EAS emergency kit, ARB twin compressor grafted to a Traxide dual battery kit and extra USB and GPO outlets and tailgate lighting.

[DiscoJeffster]

I can say it’s not sealed having installed my Safari. There are entry points at the airbox between the box and the side of the panel for one. The tube running through the side panel is flimsy as well. Could that tube be made watertight - I can’t remember.

[dirvine]

For some reason when I installed my Airflow snorkel I kept the hose that runs along the inner guard. I can confirm it is wrapped in a plastic sleeve and would be water tight. I would think the main issues with the LR raised air intake would be trying to seal both ends of that hose so they were watertight. Also the connection between the inner guard and the air box might need a sleeve to make a tight seal rather than just two rubber edges butted against one another. Also remember NOT to use silicon as the sealant. You MUST use Mastic. Silicon does something to the running of the car (sensors I think)

[Tombie]

Also remember NOT to use silicon as the sealant. You MUST use Mastic. Silicon does something to the running of the car (sensors I think)

Close... just make sure to use a neutral cure (not acid cure) silicone...

My preference though is Sika products!!!

[l00kin4]

Ritter will do it - they will install it but don't sell a kit.


One of the LR indies in Melbourne produces a kit to fully seal the RAI

It's been mentioned in other threads Ritter provide this kit but when I contacted them last week, this was the response:

"With regards to a water proofing kit, it is not a parts kit we sell. To guarantee waterproofing of a factory raised air intake we would need to install this for you."

David

[Lockee]

Ok looks like I will modify what I have

[Tombie]

Ok looks like I will modify what I have

Take some pics as you go along!

[Eric SDV6SE]

Maybe a silly idea, but if the snorkel inlet tract (Safari or otherwise) was not watertight it would make sense that it isnt airtight either.

Therefore should be a relatively simple test to block the snorkel upper intake, engine should stall. If it doesn’t, then there’s a leak somewhere?

I’ve got a Safari snorkel (came with the car) appears pretty well sealed through the inner guard through to the air box. Mind you I’ve not been in water deep enough to test for water tightness. [tonguewink]

[101RRS]

Snorkels are designed to be watertight as they do not use the original internal plumbing. The issue is just with the RAI which is just an external fitting with nothing new inside.

[letherm]

Snorkels are designed to be watertight as they do not use the original internal plumbing. The issue is just with the RAI which is just an external fitting with nothing new inside.

I was thinking that too. Out of curiosity I browsed the installation instructions for the Safari and noticed that a flexible tube ran from the RAI where it attaches to the side opening up to the engine air intake. I thought looking at that that it may be watertight.

Martin

[DiscoJeffster]

I was thinking that too. Out of curiosity I browsed the installation instructions for the Safari and noticed that a flexible tube ran from the RAI where it attaches to the side opening up to the engine air intake. I thought looking at that that it may be watertight.

Martin

I can assure you a Safari is watertight. I’ve installed one and the end result is a sealed solution. As mentioned the factory raised intake can be modified to also be sealed.

[Biggogs69]

I priced up a 4" stainless snorkel they look great in my opinion.
Around $900 fitted, not went ahead yet as they are flat out till February.

[loanrangie]

I priced up a 4" stainless snorkel they look great in my opinion.
Around $900 fitted, not went ahead yet as they are flat out till February.
That would look crap on a D3/4 , leave that for the jap boys.

[Lockee]

I am struggling with the factory intake on my early 3. The later ones sit a lot closer and don’t look like they were built by a work Experience kid

[Lockee]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/02/106.jpg

[AnD3rew]

That would look crap on a D3/4 , leave that for the jap boys.

They look crap on everything, the Safari is in no way beautiful, but it looks better than the stainless tube ones.