What tyre will fit on D4 20 Inch rims

[chinaplate]

Apologies as this has probably been covered before many times but I have spent hours looking and cant find the answer.
I have a 2013 D4 SDV6 HSE on 20"rims what max size tyre ,mainly higher profile,will fit without modifications . At this point do not have the funds or desire to change rims.
Chris

[DIS4]

Check this out,
http://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/a34e48_8f26031acbc445c1adf972bd3a8e1f88.xls'dn=tyr es_on_LR.xls

all different sizes and brand covered. I used to have cooper zero 275/50R20, it is ok but not great depends what you are using for.

Cheers,

Gary

[Geedublya]

I had Nitto Terra Grappler 265/50 20 111 and now I have Monsta Terrain Gripper 265/50 20 114. Both good tyres on a 20" rim. the Nittos lasted 70K and were quiet, the Monstas are noisier but have better grip on wet roads.

I had the Nittos off-road and on the beach and was happy with their performance. I haven't used the Monstas off road yet but suspect they would be better than the Nittos. Tyres in this size don't rub. Others who have tried 285/50 report some rubbing, also strictly speaking a 285 is too wide in NSW as it is greater than 25mm I'm unsure about other states.

The Nittos can be had for $250-300, the Monstas $200-250.

[Parkes]

Another [emoji106] for Nitto in 265/50R20. Good tyre, about 45k km in and still going strong

[chinaplate]

Thanks for the replies.

I have only had the car a week or so and have not yet been off the bitumen with it. It is shod with Pirelli ZERO M&S 255/50R20 109Y that only have a few thou ks on them.
Have been playing with tyre pressure while parked in my shed and 20 PSI does not leave much rubber between rim and the road even when parked let alone flexing away when off road
[bigsad]

[Geedublya]

The Pirellis are surprisingly good. But you have to be careful around rocks.

[cruiseh]

ive thrown 275/55/20 nitto g2's and it rubs on full lock at normal height. ill be gettig another set of wheels for offroading and putting 265/50 rubber on for every day

275/55 gives zero speedo error or spot on accurate. 6% increase in gearing though, it seems to show with heavier fuel usage..

[gtmurph]

Thanks Chris,

Been going through the same research, have 20" rims also on our recently purchased 2014 Discovery but with on-road bias tyres (Maxxis HPM3's). Keen on switching to 18" in the long run but for now limited on funds, so have order some Monsta Terrain Grippers, 265/50R20's, good price, hopefully live up to the reviews, wet weather handling was one of the deciding factors.

[Cannon]

I'm considering:
Toyo Open Country AT2
Khumo Road Venture KL61
Maxxis AT700
Monsta Terrain Grappler AT
All in 265/50R20

I think the trick with 20" wheels is to use higher offroad pressures & go SLOW.

Be aware that hitting rocks, ledges etc with little sidewall is not ideal & drive accordingly.

I'll be interested in your thoughts on the Monstas when you've had them fitted.

BTW I'd prefer 18" wheels as well but...........;)

[Drafrete]

Hi,

Thanks to all who contributed. I found the discussion helpful and timely. I needed to replace the OEM Pirellis after 45k

Narrowed down the choice to Nitto and Monsta. Ended up going for the Monsta terra grapplers in 265/50R20.

The reported wet weather issues of the Nittos combined with the high load rating of the Monsta tyres made my choice.

Got 5 tyres fitted for $200 each in Melbourne. Performing as expected (after 2 days).

137895

[chinaplate]

Hi,

Thanks to all who contributed. I found the discussion helpful and timely. I needed to replace the OEM Pirellis after 45k

Narrowed down the choice to Nitto and Monsta. Ended up going for the Monsta terra grapplers in 265/50R20.

The reported wet weather issues of the Nittos combined with the high load rating of the Monsta tyres made my choice.

Got 5 tyres fitted for $200 each in Melbourne. Performing as expected (after 2 days).

137895

Hope they perform well.
Please keep us updated on how they behave in different types of use.
Chris

[gtmurph]

Got five Monsta's fitted on Saturday, $195 ea at Matthews Tyres here in Sydney. So far so good, slightly firmer ride than the Maxxis, actually seems to steer better more direct. Noise is not that bad either, definitely not intrusive.

Will report back after a bit more time with them, heading to Cooma this weekend so will see how they go on a trip.

Thanks for the advice

[Cannon]

Hi,

Thanks to all who contributed. I found the discussion helpful and timely. I needed to replace the OEM Pirellis after 45k

Narrowed down the choice to Nitto and Monsta. Ended up going for the Monsta terra grapplers in 265/50R20.

The reported wet weather issues of the Nittos combined with the high load rating of the Monsta tyres made my choice.

Got 5 tyres fitted for $200 each in Melbourne. Performing as expected (after 2 days).

137895

any chance of a side view please? :)

[Drafrete]

Hi,

As requested another view.

Also, I have had the tyres on for a week or so now. This has included the first significant rain in Melbourne for some time. They performed very well in the wet.

We also travel over a loose gravel road every day and I feel that there is better grip and direct steering than the OEM Pirelli tyres, so they feel much better on loose surfaces.

138108

[Graeme]

Their LI 116 is unusually high for the size.

[Geedublya]

Their LI 116 is unusually high for the size.


Yes, Most of their tyres are higher than other brands. I don't know if they've exaggerated a bit or if it has very strong sidewalls.

My Monsta ATs are still going strong, definitely a lot noisier than the Nittos but not so bad that I want to swap them out.

[Graeme]

My Monsta ATs are still going strongWhat size on your L494?

[Graeme]

The reported wet weather issues of the Nittos..
The original version seemed to have some wet weather issues but do the TG2 also?

[Geedublya]

What size on your L494?


Currently 275 40 22, I just picked up some take off from new 20" wheels with 255 55 20. I will use them for a while and then go to 275 55 20. I'm hoping that the 20s improve the ride (a lot) as I'm not that happy with ride comfort on the 22" wheels.

[Cannon]

Got some new shoes today.

Monsta Terrain Grippers 265/50R20

Slight noise when driving but nothing intrusive at all.

Really happy so far. :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/04/373.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/04/374.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/04/375.jpg

[andeck]

They look very nice cannon!! [emoji106]
Please let us know how they go after a few months as well!!

[Geedublya]

They look very nice cannon!! [emoji106]
Please let us know how they go after a few months as well!!

Mine are at 13K now, A bit noisy but grip well.

[andeck]

Thanks for the info geedublya

[ghackett2]

Got some new shoes today.

Monsta Terrain Grippers 265/50R20

Slight noise when driving but nothing intrusive at all.

Really happy so far. :D



Hi Cannon,

How are the tyres going a few months in for noise and performance, both on and off road?

I'm looking to replace the OEM pirelli's on my MY13 and trying to decide between the Nittos and Monsta's. Like others here, I would like a bit more sidewall but don't want to make any mods to avoid rubbing.

[Cannon]

I've only got about 4.5k km on them so far & have only been offroad once:(

I'm pleased with them so far.

Had no issues on the dirt & rocks on the weekend.

Must more confident in them the road tyres that were on it when I got it.

Not too noisy.

[alpick]

anyone tried the pirelli scorpion ATR 275 50 R20

[Graeme]

Do you mean 275/55R20? Whilst a few tyres are available in 275/50R20, the now superseded ATR and the current AT+ are only available in 275/55 for 20".

[Quicky]

I have been searching the forum for a suitable replacement for Pirelli Scorpion 255/50r20 with a little more aggressive tread and a little more sidewall and have been looking at the Goodyear Duratrak in 255/55r20. Does anyone have any personal experience with these tyres?

[discolandinaus]

I am also on the same boat. Have got 255/50 R20 on my Discovey 4 and would like to understand is I can go with 255/55R20. Anyone has tried it before? Will be of great help

[alpick]

I settled on the pirelli scorpion verde M & S.255/50/20

car still fits in garage and tyres have Good wet grip, ride well and quiet.
havent hit the dirt yet but tread is good AT style.

also good price from karingbah tyres @$250.

cheers

[discolandinaus]

Wow that’s good price.

[discolandinaus]

It would be very helpful if somebody could respond to the below.

I have got 255/50/20 on my 2015 discovery 4. I can get a set of 255/55/20 at a very good price. Has anyone done this in the past and are their any know issues? Will be vehicle be roadworthy if I do that?

Also I have read in the forum that some have changed from 255/50/20 to 265/50/20. Doesn’t this require a change in rim due to the extra width?

[Geedublya]

255 55 20 will be fine, 265 50 20 doesn’t require a rim change as the 20” rim has plenty of width for that tyre.
Most go for the 265 50 20 as there are AT tyres in that size, the 255s tend to be road tyres.

[discolandinaus]

Thanks Geedublya for the response. I had called Bridgestone and Bob Jane and they both mentioned that it is not possible to for a different size and I was concerned.

Should I be worried about anything other than speedo playing around when I go for 255/55/20 or 265/50/20?

Also any idea if the 265/50/20 will fit in the current spare tyre location?

Thanks again.

[DiscoJeffster]

You can do the calcs yourself. 255/55 has a wall height of 140.25mm.
A 265/50 has a wall height of 132.50mm. As you can see, your 265 at a 50 profile has a lower overall diameter so will fit. 10mm extra width will not affect its pull up into the space.

[Geedublya]

Thanks Geedublya for the response. I had called Bridgestone and Bob Jane and they both mentioned that it is not possible to for a different size and I was concerned.

Should I be worried about anything other than speedo playing around when I go for 255/55/20 or 265/50/20?

Also any idea if the 265/50/20 will fit in the current spare tyre location?

Thanks again.

Speed shown will become more accurate but distance travelled will be out slightly as the speed is adjusted to read high for ADRs.

[discolandinaus]

You can do the calcs yourself. 255/55 has a wall height of 140.25mm.
A 265/50 has a wall height of 132.50mm. As you can see, your 265 at a 50 profile has a lower overall diameter so will fit. 10mm extra width will not affect its pull up into the space.

Yeah got it. I currently have 255/50/20 that is a wall height of 127.5.

Thanks to all the advise. I am currently planning to go for 265/50/20 which has a wall height of 132.5.

As per 4*4uk website the difference in speed is minimal from 30 miles to 30.63 miles with larger tyres.

[discolandinaus]

Sorry, does ADR mean Australian Design Rule?

[Geedublya]

Sorry, does ADR mean Australian Design Rule?

Yes, The ADRs require speedometers to read high. This assists to prevent people from speeding.

[Graeme]

I beg to differ on the speedo reading rules - the speedo is not allowed to read slow even with new, unworn tyres. I'm cynical of LR's intention in that the vehicle's fuel consumption appears better if the vehicle travels slower than the real speed. LR also set the fuel consumption formula very optimistically.

[Barraman]

I’m currently running Pirelli Scorpian ATR Plus - love them! Very quiet, moderately aggressive and very secure in dry or wet, bitumen or dirt. Mine are 255/55 R 19, but you can get them in 20”.

[rocket rod]

LR also set the fuel consumption formula very optimistically. Indeed they do!

[discolandinaus]

Had gone for a long drive and was showing 8.4 L per 100 but when I filled up and calculated consumption was 1 or 1.5 litre more if I remember correctly.

On another note can somebody confirm if they were able to fit a 265/50/20 wheel in the spare location of a discovery 4 or was their any issues?

[Graeme]

I fitted 265/65R17 which is theoretically very slightly larger diameter into a D4 spare wheel area.

[discolandinaus]

Thanks Graeme. That helps a lot for me to take a decision.

Planning to go for Nitto Terra Grappler 265/50/20 when I change the tyres in 3 months time just so that if I decide to go a little off road I don’t need to worry much.

Not sure why but tyresales.com.au or any similar online websites don’t have stock of them.

[Graeme]

I don't know what alternatives to the TG exist in this size but a brother destroyed 2 TGs on his RRS on 1 trip.

[discolandinaus]

Oh. [emoji15]

[Graeme]

1 sidewall and the other through the tread on an outback track while doing his best endeavours to avoid rocks that could damage the tyres.
The Monsta Terrain Gripper is available in this size and has a significantly higher load rating so I expect it to have a stronger carcass. However they're probably somewhat noisy.

[Geedublya]

1 sidewall and the other through the tread on an outback track while doing his best endeavours to avoid rocks that could damage the tyres.
The Monsta Terrain Gripper is available in this size and has a significantly higher load rating so I expect it to have a stronger carcass. However they're probably somewhat noisy.

I didn't find the Monsta too bad noise wise. A little bit louder than the Nitto but not much. Bob Janes now sell a Radar Tyre (https://www.bobjane.com.au/a/265-50r20-tyres/radar/renegade-rt-265-50r20-121-118q/19662) in that size which is LT rated. I suspect it would be noisier than the Monsta though.

[ghackett2]

We recently fitted nitto terra grapple g2 265/50/20. I didn't want to go to the 275/50/20 as I have read a few issues with rubbing. No probs fitting the 265 as the spare. Haven't tried them out off road yet, but not planning on any outback tracks. I went with these over the monsta as 95% of our driving is on road with the rest beach or relatively mild tracks. They are as quite as the scorpion road tyres and have been fine in the recent torrential rain. It's a hard choice...

[discolandinaus]

Yes I too have similar requirements. Mostly driving on road and some light tracks. Nitto TG looks good except for somebody who does more off road tracks I think. Thanks for the input.

Did you fit G2 model? If so do you mind sharing how much did it cost.

I got a quote of $280 for G1

[discolandinaus]

Yes I too have similar requirements. Mostly driving on road and some light tracks. Nitto TG looks good except for somebody who does more off road tracks I think. Thanks for the input.

Did you fit G2 model? If so do you mind sharing how much did it cost.

I got a quote of $280 for G1

[ghackett2]

Yes I too have similar requirements. Mostly driving on road and some light tracks. Nitto TG looks good except for somebody who does more off road tracks I think. Thanks for the input.

Did you fit G2 model? If so do you mind sharing how much did it cost.

I got a quote of $280 for G1

Yes G2 - About $320 each in Brisbane. None of the online places had them (about 6 weeks ago) so I couldn't really bargain the quotes too far.

[Graeme]

G1 are old design and old stock. G2 are reportedly quieter and better in the wet.

[discolandinaus]

Ok Thanks for that. Will look for G2

[Baytown]

BFG KO2 All Terrain 275/55/20
Hi folks.
Is anyone running these in this size on your 20 inch rims?
I’m looking at replacing my 2013 HSEs’ Coopers prior to a trip inland in June/July.
Thanks for any feedback.
Ken

[jimmy.singh11@gmail.com]

Hi guys, did some one tried these specs tire on 20inch wheel on disco 4 2014 or similar specother brand tyre.
Just want to know if that fits well or rubbing issue.
Nitto Tyres Australia - Ridge Grappler Hybrid Extreme-Duty Light-Truck 4x4 Tyre (http://nittotyre.com.au/tyres/4x4-tyres/ridge-grappler/)

Check lots of reviews online mostly from US all liked this Hybrid tyre claiming less noise aswell.
My only concern is will they fit?

[Dagilmo]

Hi guys, did some one tried these specs tire on 20inch wheel on disco 4 2014 or similar specother brand tyre.
Just want to know if that fits well or rubbing issue.
Nitto Tyres Australia - Ridge Grappler Hybrid Extreme-Duty Light-Truck 4x4 Tyre (http://nittotyre.com.au/tyres/4x4-tyres/ridge-grappler/)

Check lots of reviews online mostly from US all liked this Hybrid tyre claiming less noise aswell.
My only concern is will they fit?

I've got a set o Toyo Open Country R/T. Not the same tyre (originally had ordered the Nitto Ridge Grappler but it didn't work out so got the Toyos instead) but an aggressive hybrid A/T with lots of reviews saying how quiet they are.

Key point here I think is 'quiet' is a relative term. Yes, they are quiet compared to M/T but they are a noisy tyre compared to H/T tyres. Don't purchase thinking you're getting the noise level of a road tyre.

[jimmy.singh11@gmail.com]

I've got a set o Toyo Open Country R/T. Not the same tyre (originally had ordered the Nitto Ridge Grappler but it didn't work out so got the Toyos instead) but an aggressive hybrid A/T with lots of reviews saying how quiet they are.

Key point here I think is 'quiet' is a relative term. Yes, they are quiet compared to M/T but they are a noisy tyre compared to H/T tyres. Don't purchase thinking you're getting the noise level of a road tyre.


Thanks for info, So what size you put on for Toyo tires?

[Dagilmo]

Thanks for info, So what size you put on for Toyo tires?

Mine were on 18 rims. So 285/60/18. I know the post is about 20" rims, my comment was regarding the relative and subjective nature of reviews particularly when related to tyres and noise.

[Wags14]

Has anyone used these tyres? Looking to change from Pirelli Scorpion Zero 255/50 R20

[Wags14]

Has anyone used these tyres? Looking to change from Pirelli Scorpion Zero 255/50 R20


I have since fitted these and have only done minimal KM and all on-road, however they are just as quiet as the Pirelli Scorpion Zero's they have replaced.

[discolandinaus]

Hi All,

Just fitted Mickey Thompson 265/50/20 Deegan 38 replacing the original 255/50/20.

With the previous tyre, I used to fill around 35 PSI. Can somebody comment on the recommended tyre pressure for the 265/50/20 tyres.

The wheel alignment was performed at a tyre shop in ringwood which is recommended by a Landrover mechanic. When I was there, I saw other Landrover vehicles. However, as the vehicle was slowly moving towards the left I took the vehicle again and now it is better but still it either pulls towards the left or towards the right if I am on the centre of the road.

I mentioned that the suspension needs to be locked and need to be in tight tolerance mode and was told that it is not required as they do it all the time. I saw some comments in the forum that TTM is mandatory but would like to understand if anybody has any experience in getting the wheel alignment done without locking the suspension.

Thanks!

[letherm]

Hi All,

Just fitted Mickey Thompson 265/50/20 Deegan 38 replacing the original 255/50/20.

With the previous tyre, I used to fill around 35 PSI. Can somebody comment on the recommended tyre pressure for the 265/50/20 tyres.

The wheel alignment was performed at a tyre shop in ringwood which is recommended by a Landrover mechanic. When I was there, I saw other Landrover vehicles. However, as the vehicle was slowly moving towards the left I took the vehicle again and now it is better but still it either pulls towards the left or towards the right if I am on the centre of the road.

I mentioned that the suspension needs to be locked and need to be in tight tolerance mode and was told that it is not required as they do it all the time. I saw some comments in the forum that TTM is mandatory but would like to understand if anybody has any experience in getting the wheel alignment done without locking the suspension.

Thanks!

From memory, it's in the workshop manual. Got to assume LR put it there for a reason. I had a problem with pulling to the left after a wheel alignment at a place used by my dealer following clipping a slow down island as I thought I may have caused a problem. Took it to an LR indy for a fresh alignment as part of a mid year service and asked for it to be in Tight Tolerance Mode. Ran straight as a die after that and no trouble since.

Martin

[discolandinaus]

Thanks Martin. I might need to take it somewhere where they do TTM.

I have been told that as the Tyre size is not standard this could occur, but I don’t think that should case a problem.

[letherm]

Thanks Martin. I might need to take it somewhere where they do TTM.

I have been told that as the Tyre size is not standard this could occur, but I don’t think that should case a problem.

If you've got a GAPIID tool you can do it yourself and reset after they've done the alignment.

Martin

[discolandinaus]

Planning to buy one in the next group buy.