Help Eevo find a RRS or FFRR tdv8

[Eevo]

hello.

im looking at buying a rrs tdv8 2008-2010 (pre facelift)


how can i tell which options have been installed?

options im interested in are
Sunroof - ok, this ones easy to tell
Personal telephone Integration System - this one im struggling on.
Premium Navigation System - ok, this ones easy to tell
Front Park distance control - ?
Powerfold mirrors - ?
Console cooler box - easy to tell. does it only run when the car is on?Adaptive headlights - not sure what this is
Premium ICE - how to tell, prob not that important
Tow bar pack - just look for a tow bar?
Active Rear Diff - im guessing most people didnt order this option?
heated seats - was this even avalaible in aust?

ive read that models with v8 were fitted with electonci rear diff, is this true or only in the UK?

what else do i need to know?

[Geedublya]

Put the VIN into Topix. It will give the build. Google or ask here anything you don’t understand.

[Eevo]

Put the VIN into Topix. It will give the build.

i tried that.
i gave the wrong year and no details.
unless im missing something?

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[Naks]

i tried that.
i gave the wrong year and no details.
unless im missing something?

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Topix is never wrong - I've caught a few dealers out, trying to pass different vehicles to the ones advertised.

So my advice is to trust the build that Topix shows you and question the dealer about the differences, chances are they are lying in the ad or to you.

[Eevo]

Topix is never wrong - I've caught a few dealers out, trying to pass different vehicles to the ones advertised.

So my advice is to trust the build that Topix shows you and question the dealer about the differences, chances are they are lying in the ad or to you.

well no, ive checked out the car once quickly.
its build date was july 2008. i saw it with my own eyes.

[101RRS]

Put the VIN into Topix. It will give the build. Google or ask here anything you don’t understand.

Topix no longer provides the information that it used to with respect to the build for "standard" topix users.

Dealers have access to the full information and some will download it but many will not.

Garry

[101RRS]

well no, ive checked out the car once quickly.
its build date was july 2008. i saw it with my own eyes.

Topix says 2009 but if the sticker on the car says Jul 08 then there is definitely an inconsistency somewhere. Both comply with a 09MY car. Page 4 of the car's Service Portfolio should have the entry completed for when it was delivered - if the car was built in Jul 08 the delivery date in the Service book should be around Oct-Dec 08. If the build date is in 09 then the delivery date should be Apr to Jul 09 - rough I know but should give an indication which date is correct.

But have a LR dealer put in the VIN into Topix and they can tell you exactly what it is. If the date on the sticker near the radiator and the Topix date differ then I would be checking why. As said Topix is normally correct but I guess errors can be made in any system

Garry

[Geedublya]

Topix no longer provides the information that it used to with respect to the build for "standard" topix users.

Dealers have access to the full information and some will download it but many will not.

Garry

Interesting... It still gives details for later cars and my 2010 D4 but not for this RRS. It may be they don't give access to older vehicles.

[101RRS]

Yes that is what I used to get for my car on the old Topix but since they updated it I only get what Evo got. However I understand that business clients like dealers can access the full list.

[Eevo]

so who can i call to find out?

[Gregz]

Hi Evo,
what happens when you click on the Printable Vehicle Summary icon (in the Vehicle Features heading line)?

[101RRS]

so who can i call to find out?

Go to a LR Dealer with the Vin and ask them to look it up for you. If they are nice they will happily do it, if not they will tell you to ....... off - or charge you a fortune.

You can but try [bigsmile1].

You could also go on the UK RRS or D3 site and ask someone there who has the right access to look it up for you.

Good luck with it.

Garry

[Eevo]

Hi Evo,
what happens when you click on the Printable Vehicle Summary icon (in the Vehicle Features heading line)?

thats it

TOPIx Vehicle Summary: SALLSAA239A191228
VIN:
SALLSAA239A191228
Model:
Range Rover Sport / L320
Model year:
2009


Last Service Recorded:
None recorded
Features
Transmission
6-Speed Automatic 6HP26
CAB style
4 DOOR ESTATE
Engine
3.6L Diesel
Series
RANGE ROVER DIESEL V8 5DR
Drive
RHD

[101RRS]

But that is basically the same information as you already had - it does clarify one thing in that the 2009 on Topix is not build date but Model Year. So your build date information is consistent with Topix in that Topix does not supply actual build date.

The dealer should be able to provide you with the level of detail that the post by Geedublya has in his PDF. By the way Geedublya, it looks as if you have been slacking in the servicing of your car [thumbsupbig].

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F158 - RENEW BRAKE FLUID
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F204 - LR4 DISCOVERY 48 MONTHS 96,000KMS SERVICE
F197 - LR4 12,000 KM/HEALTH CHECK - AUSTRALIA

Garry

[Geedublya]

But that is basically the same information as you already had - it does clarify one thing in that the 2009 on Topix is not build date but Model Year. So your build date information is consistent with Topix in that Topix does not supply actual build date.

The dealer should be able to provide you with the level of detail that the post by Geedublya has in his PDF. By the way Geedublya, it looks as if you have been slacking in the servicing of your car [thumbsupbig].

Outstanding Campaigns
F158 - RENEW BRAKE FLUID
F199 - LR4 DISCOVERY 18 MONTHS 36,000KMS OIL SERVICE
F201 - LR4 DISCOVERY 30 MONTHS 60,000KMS OIL SERVICE
F203 - LR4 DISCOVERY 42 MONTHS 84000KMS OIL SERVICE
F204 - LR4 DISCOVERY 48 MONTHS 96,000KMS SERVICE
F197 - LR4 12,000 KM/HEALTH CHECK - AUSTRALIA

Garry


Actually the problem is that Land Rover service departments don't put the information on the system. Thankfully I still have a service book which has been stamped but the newer cars don't. A number of L494 RRS I looked at didn't have up to date service information on Topix and I had to ask the owners for evidence.

I have a suspicion Land Rover has done this to try and keep owners coming back to dealers and not to use independents.

[Eevo]

so some good news and some bad news.

i called up land rover solitaire, the place where it got serviced.
they wernt able to tell me the fitted options as the computer was broken, but he could tell me the service history. he didnt want to tell me anything as he didnt have the owners permission. but he told me anyway, lol. all minor things. replace brake pads, split intercooler hose, tighten battery terminals.


ive got an RAA inspection booked for friday. then we haggle.

[p38brickus]

Ring Triumph Rover Spares in Adelaide with your identifiers on (08) 8384 6933 (https://www.google.com.au/search'source=hp&ei=U0CrWvmCAoO78QXGxIiwDg&q=range+rover+spares+adelaide&oq=range+rover+spares+adelaide&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30k1l2.3020.14403.0.14593.28.27.0.0.0.0 .258.4240.2-19.19.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..9.19.4235.0..0j46j0i131k1j0i46k1.0.25YvjWeBIKQ #). They did it for me. TDV8 in that vintage is a yummy car, trust me. I have the voice command on mine but never use it. The lever is in between the 2 steering wheel spokes on the LHS of the wheel.

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[Eevo]

thanks brickus


i'm bummed, it doesn't have bluetooth and it hadn't had gearbox servicing.

[rar110]

Hold out for a MY10. IMHO much nicer interior/exterior.

[Eevo]

Hold out for a MY10. IMHO much nicer interior/exterior.

ive thought about that, i like the idea except.
i hate push button start
there are no MY10's in SA
i'm not very good at holding out

[rar110]

Buy a MY08 Vogue. No push button, lots of features like blue tooth phone even in the povo pack like mine. More space, better rear suspension and more breathing space in the engine bay.

[Eevo]

thanks rar110. its a great idea and i'm not against it, but there are no tdv8 ffrr in sa currently.
they also have heated seats which is a big bonus in my book. the negative is thats its a bigger car. i'm happy with a medium sized 4wd. and the rrs looks slightly better


keep the ideas coming.

[101RRS]

and the rrs looks slightly better


What you really meant to say was that the L322 is dog ugly [thumbsupbig]

[Eevo]

What you really meant to say was that the L322 is dog ugly [thumbsupbig]

haha, no no. L322 is like a 7/10. L320 is 8.5/10. shes skinnier and sexier than her older sister. but you dont mind either. [biggrin]

[Pedro_The_Swift]

----- better rear suspension.-----

What the difference?

[justinc]

What the difference?

No strut.
Bigger airspring, different piston design so ride laden and unladen is far superior. Seperate long travel shock and far better geometry design etc.

Drive them back to back and you will immediately know😍

[rar110]

thanks rar110. its a great idea and i'm not against it, but there are no tdv8 ffrr in sa currently.
they also have heated seats which is a big bonus in my book. the negative is thats its a bigger car. i'm happy with a medium sized 4wd. and the rrs looks slightly better


keep the ideas coming.

Heated seats are very popular in my family. But it’s other stuff I like better eg big front seats, memory driver seat, bigger info screen, dipping reverse mirror, 11 speakers (on poverty pack), sun visors that cover front and side glass at same time.

L322 is noticeably more spacious inside, has a flat rear passenger floor, but is overall not that much bigger, about 19cm longer and 3cm wider.

According to Carsales:
Vogue: 4972 L, 1956 W
Sport L320: 4783L, 1928 W

The Vogue also has more ground clearance.

I think the ediff only came standard on the Vogue 4.2SC.

[Eevo]

so the dealer thinks he can get the bluetooth retro fitted.
i thought this was pretty hard to do.

is the dealer BS'ing me?

[donh54]

Why do you limit yourself to a car from SA? Last RR we bought, we got from Vic, and drove back to Qld. Made a bit of an adventure out of it!

There was a bloke on here a while ago talking about what could be retrofitted to later models.

[Eevo]

Why do you limit yourself to a car from SA? Last RR we bought, we got from Vic, and drove back to Qld. Made a bit of an adventure out of it!

There was a bloke on here a while ago talking about what could be retrofitted to later models.


time and effort.


my disco and p38 i got from syd.
photos are the same as seeing a car in person. and i dont like being disappointed.

[donh54]

time and effort.


my disco and p38 i got from syd.
photos are the same as seeing a car in person. and i dont like being disappointed.

Cheap flights between capitals nowadays. Line up three or four to look at in the one trip, treat SWMBO to dinner and a show. Get a car AND some Brownie points at the same time [biggrin]

[101RRS]

treat SWMBO to dinner and a show.

As EEVO said - a lot of time and effort [bighmmm]

[Eevo]

negotiations on the range rover didnt go to plan.
listed price was 39k. i offered 32k
he came back with 35k without some things (bluetooth retrofit & gearbox service)
i said 35k with those things
and thats were it ended
he seemed offended i walked away

here is the car for reference

We've taken a wrong turn (https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-Sport-2008/OAG-AD-15586849/?Cr=12)

i'm not sure what to do now.

[Geedublya]

negotiations on the range rover didnt go to plan.
listed price was 39k. i offered 32k
he came back with 35k without some things (bluetooth retrofit & gearbox service)
i said 35k with those things
and thats were it ended
he seemed offended i walked away

here is the car for reference

We've taken a wrong turn (https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-Sport-2008/OAG-AD-15586849/?Cr=12)

i'm not sure what to do now.

Wait, either another will turn up or they will lower the price if it doesn't sell.

[101RRS]

In SA

We've taken a wrong turn (https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-Sport-2008/SSE-AD-5044351/?Cr=3)

[Eevo]

In SA

We've taken a wrong turn (https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-Sport-2008/SSE-AD-5044351/?Cr=3)


cheers garry but already looked at that one. about 8k overpriced. close to no options.

[101RRS]

It does have Aspen interior which the other one hasn't.

I think you will find it difficult to get what you want - yes you can wait but compromises may be required. Remember as far as the L320 is concerned the TDV8 had just about all the fruit as standard - the basic TDV6 (like mine) doesn't even have folding mirrors or the centre command centre - the basic TDV6 is pure poverty in comparison.

Garry

[rar110]

I think $35k for that interior is too much. I personally don’t like the pre MY10 RRS interior.

I agree with the previous, its a big investment. Take a flight to Victoria. It’s a much bigger market. WA can be a bit cheaper if you are able to go west.

As a comparison a 2011 L322 4.4 tdv8 with 200,000 km recently sold in WA for about $39k. A lot nicer, with obviously a lot of hw km, with an 8 speed ZF and TFT instrument panel.

[Eevo]

I think $35k for that interior is too much.

i would of paid 35k, if it had Bluetooth and the gearbox serviced.

i dunno.
part of my agrees that i need to compromise
other part of me thinks, i'm spending 35k, i should get what i want. i'm not paying 35k for no bluetooth.

[3rr]

i would of paid 35k, if it had Bluetooth and the gearbox serviced.

i dunno.
part of my agrees that i need to compromise
other part of me thinks, i'm spending 35k, i should get what i want. i'm not paying 35k for no bluetooth.


Buy mine - comes in tasty teal ( a bit scratched from North Flinders Ranges trip)l, ivory interior, ACE, sunroof (rattles a bit),talk to the car thing (it says sorry when you swear at it, in a posh English accent), newish airbags, new turbos, tranny done by A&B in Dandenong last year (maybe the year before but who's counting), new glowplugs (don't know why), a little crack in the speaker cover LH back seat, Harmon Kardon juke box, after market hitch from those people in NSW, and you can have the original plough as part of the deal, had a look at the camshafts, very little wear, etc etc ......no bluetooth or phone, but lots of buttons that don't do much, BUT you plug your phone into the aux socket and behold - it rings through the talk thing and you can talk back!! ONLY 330,000 country k's - its a steal I tell you. No electronic diff though - sorry

[p38brickus]

You've walked away, that's good. The ball is now in the dealer's court.
When I bought our X5, it was in SA and I was in Mildura. I offered the seller my price, he knocked it back as is his right. 3 weeks later, my wife said to ring him. I said no for the following 2 reasons.....

1. They won't run out of cars.
2. In negotiations, he who blinks first, loses. [bigsmile]

[Eevo]

dealer called back 4 weeks later?

[Eevo]

im starting to cave.
i'm starting to think 35k is a good price.

what changed my mind you ask?
ive been looking at carsales.com.au
bluetooth is not as common in these cars as i first thought.
there are also minimal tdv8 ffrr in the L322 for sale in australia currently.



what are the chances of finding a black one, with the options i want, with low km, with a good sevice history, in good condition at a low price.... asking the impossible much?

[Pedro_The_Swift]

arent they all black?[bigwhistle]


We've taken a wrong turn (https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Range-Rover-Vogue-2008/SSE-AD-5324741/?Cr=6)

[Eevo]

very nice that one but its a bit high for a 08 model and above what i want to pay.

[rar110]

FFRRs for sale do seem to come in waves. Currently there are no bargains IMHO. The black one I posted earlier is prob worth $35k as it’s had a remap and trans service. The 22” wheels are a negative for me. Interestingly Redbook indicates a price range of $28,800 - $32,500 for a 2008 poverty pack.

[Eevo]

very nice that one but its a bit high for a 08 model and above what i want to pay.

actually i might be being hastie.


looking around, 35k for that year and that km's isnt as bad as i thought.



so now the question is. spend 35k.


or, spend about 10km more and get a ffrr. would have to got interstate.
for 10k i would get blootooth and heated seats and probobly a few other goodies.

is 10k extra worth it?

[donh54]

Or, for $27K less, you could buy my P38A [bigrolf]

[Eevo]

Or, for $27K less, you could buy my P38A [bigrolf]

I'll give you $20

[Eevo]

so i called the dealer, squeezed him for another $500.
i sign the paper work tomorrow.
i'll think about posting some photos

[rar110]

Congrats Eevo. It’s a nice motor.

Contact Cambo, he might have a way of retrofitting Bluetooth.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

i'll think about posting some photos


Dream on[bigrolf]
:bat:
:ttiwwp:

[justinc]

Congrats guv!! You'll love that drive 😍

[p38brickus]

im starting to cave.
i'm starting to think 35k is a good price.

what changed my mind you ask?
ive been looking at carsales.com.au
bluetooth is not as common in these cars as i first thought.
there are also minimal tdv8 ffrr in the L322 for sale in australia currently.



what are the chances of finding a black one, with the options i want, with low km, with a good sevice history, in good condition at a low price.... asking the impossible much?

No offence mate but you are showing all the signs of what is known as "sticker shock."
You go to the dealer with $20K to spend say.
You see a car for $25K that you like. You explode and say it's too much and all the other excuses why you won't buy it.
A week later you think the price isn't too bad and you talk yourself into it.

Cars should be bought without emotion. [bigsmile] I mean love a particular breed of car (TDV8 is a great car) but don't let the emotion take over. Dealer ONE, customer ZERO. [bigsmile]

[Eevo]

No offence mate but you are showing all the signs of what is known as "sticker shock."
You go to the dealer with $20K to spend say.
You see a car for $25K that you like. You explode and say it's too much and all the other excuses why you won't buy it.
A week later you think the price isn't too bad and you talk yourself into it.

Cars should be bought without emotion. [bigsmile] I mean love a particular breed of car (TDV8 is a great car) but don't let the emotion take over. Dealer ONE, customer ZERO. [bigsmile]

given that i screwed him down 12%, im happy.

1 happy dealer, 1 happy customer.

[Eevo]

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[grey_ghost]

Noice rig! [emoji1303]