Windows 10 april upgrade PIN

[Lionel]

Hi All,

Since the recent April upgrade to Windows 10 I am experiencing a most annoying request on bootup to install a PIN for login rather than using the password. I do NOT want to use a PIN after a previous disaster which forced a Windows re-installation.

The problem is that the only way to get past this PIN request screen is to select "install PIN later". There is no option to stay with a password as in previous Windows versions.

I will not be forced by Microsoft to do something I don't want, so does anyone have any clues on how to stop this annoying message appearing at bootup. This morning I had to force stop the machine in order to get past it & it is very annoying.

Any information would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Lionel

[PhilipA]

If you go to Settings, then accounts, there is the option to change your password or add a PIN.
I wasn't game to press add but maybe you can delete it or put in 0000 . You must have added a PIN sometime in the past.

The only other way I know of is to start a new account , but then you lose all your favourites and contacts? ( not sure).
Regards Philip A

[Lionel]

If you go to Settings, then accounts, there is the option to change your password or add a PIN.
I wasn't game to press add but maybe you can delete it or put in 0000 . You must have added a PIN sometime in the past.


Thanks for the reply.

Actually, the point of my post was that I do NOT want to set a PIN. The only option in Settings>Accounts>Login options is to set a PIN. BTW, I have never set a PIN up to this point with my current installation (re-installation after a disaster trying to use a PIN!).

I did see one suggestion to go ahead at the login screen & set a PIN, then later get into settings & cancel it, but another post said that they had tried this method & then found that the cancel option had gone from settings, so I am not prepared to take the risk.

It seems that since the April upgrade, Microsoft are forcing us to use a PIN for login, whether we want to or not. I strongly object to this!

Cheers,

Lionel

[PhilipA]

Well I have 1805 and kept my password ,but you never know wit Microsoft .
Regards Philip A

[Ferret]

Mine upgraded this morning - nothing about now requiring a PIN.

[incisor]

Yet to see anyone forced to use a pin

I do use one myself as i find it more convenient

Sounds like something is out of kilter to me

[Lionel]

Mine upgraded this morning - nothing about now requiring a PIN.

Give it time! Mine took about 3 days before it started badgering me about installing a PIN!

Cheers,

Lionel

[Lionel]

Yet to see anyone forced to use a pin


Mmm. I can assure you that I'm not the only one complaining about this. There are at least 50 posts so far on various forums.

Unfortunately no-one has a sure-fire solution yet.

Cheers,

Lionel

[mattims]

I actually use it on one of my computers, and not on the other. I found the only way to stop being hassled (which I think is possible to ignore) was to add a pin and then go into settings and accounts and remove the pin. It hasn't started hassling me again since then.

[incisor]

Mmm. I can assure you that I'm not the only one complaining about this. There are at least 50 posts so far on various forums.

Unfortunately no-one has a sure-fire solution yet.

Cheers,

Lionel


i didnt say it didnt exist, just that i have never seen it on any windows 10 system, and i get to play with a few.

my experience tells me it is something misconfigured, and you have have prior problems with it, so you have history.

just make sure your microsoft account is upto date valid and working.

sign into it using a web browser

Microsoft account | Sign In or Create Your Account Today (https://www.google.com.au/url'sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj5sPCt3ZPbAhXLKZQKHaM6ChwQFggqMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Faccount.microsoft.com%2Faccount&usg=AOvVaw0jFlin5Ts7HkGZcGbEtZ2Y)

then go into settings on your computer, look at sign in options and turn it on, then turn it off if you don't want to use it to login.

all the settings will be updated and that should be the end of it till something corrupts your settings again.

if you don't want to have a working microsoft account your able to do that too but you will be running a slightling crippled system.

[Lionel]

just make sure your microsoft account is upto date valid and working.

sign into it using a web browser

Microsoft account | Sign In or Create Your Account Today (https://www.google.com.au/url'sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj5sPCt3ZPbAhXLKZQKHaM6ChwQFggqMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Faccount.microsoft.com%2Faccount&usg=AOvVaw0jFlin5Ts7HkGZcGbEtZ2Y)

Microsoft account is fine.






then go into settings on your computer, look at sign in options and turn it on, then turn it off if you don't want to use it to login.

all the settings will be updated and that should be the end of it till something corrupts your settings again.



Turn what on - are you talking about the PIN option? There is the option to use a PIN instead of a password, which I DON'T want to do. I just want to get rid of the annoying message asking me to change to a PIN login rather than a password. This happens every time I boot up, & has only happened since the April upgrade.

As for me having a history of problems in this area, I have not had ANY problem with this since I did a clean re-installation about 1 year ago. The problem I previously had occurred during installation of Windows 10 when I did try to set up a PIN login. For some reason it didn't work, so I did a re-installation which was fine, & I made no attempt to set a PIN.

The system has worked perfectly since then, through several update sequences, without incident until this April upgrade. The screens at bootup indicate clearly that MS are trying to move everyone to PIN logins by making it difficult to bypass the PIN request, which I consider unethical.

I am just trying to find a way of eliminating this annoying message at bootup.

Cheers,

Lionel

[incisor]

turn it on then turn it off, thats the fix

pretty simple really

[Lionel]

turn it on then turn it off, thats the fix

pretty simple really

Sorry, It is still unclear to me what you are suggesting I "turn on then turn off". There is the option in Settings>Accounts>Login options to ADD a PIN, but nothing about turning anything on or off. If adding a PIN & then later cancelling it is what you are suggesting, I am reluctant to do this as several people with this problem have tried just this, & then found that the option to go back to a password for login is no longer available. I was rather hoping that there was a registry key which could be edited to eliminate the bootup screen hassling me to install a PIN which I am experiencing.

Cheers,

Lionel

[incisor]

this is what should be in the acounts > sign in options of settings

if you haven't got a pin setup then where it shows remove in this picture, it will have add or words to the effect

140421


or you could try this

Enable or Disable PIN History in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials (https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/80813-enable-disable-pin-history-windows-10-a.html#option2)

[Lionel]

this is what should be in the acounts > sign in options of settings

if you haven't got a pin setup then where it shows remove in this picture, it will have add or words to the effect

140421


or you could try this

Enable or Disable PIN History in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials (https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/80813-enable-disable-pin-history-windows-10-a.html#option2)

Thanks incisor, this is all good stuff. I have tried setting a PIN & then after login, going to the sign-in options screen & cancelling it. This makes no difference - at the next reboot the annoying message is back as large as life!

However, overnight I notice that at the initial screen after bootup, below the panel where one enters password or PIN to login, MS seems to have added 2 sign-in option icons - either MS Hello, or MS account password. Using the password enables a clean password login without the "create PIN" hassling screen. I suspect MS have responded to pressure & introduced this new option, which has not appeared on my computer until this morning.

This seems to have solved my problem, unless anything else changes. Thank you very much for your help.

Cheers,

Lionel

[incisor]

that prompt selection of microsoft account password is the usual default option on the vast majority of systems

sounds to me like something on your system has been playing with group policy settings

you have a working solution so all is good....

[mattims]

Another note about this one.. you can actually set your PIN to include letters and symbols (kinda like a password).

If it is just for one computer the security difference is really not that much, but this is actually more secure for business as the PIN is only for that one device and your password remains the key to your account, but you aren't using it all the time for it to be found out.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

but maybe forgotten? [bigwhistle]


and yes, I've gone to a pin. Its just more efficient and I get that much more time on the pc to do, er, work.[bighmmm]